Near death experiences

slipknot0129 said:
Some people don't have NDE's because they aren't meant to by God. Scary experiences don't last forever. Heaven always wins out. I don't know it all, but I know you go to heaven once you die.
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Everyone? Even the bad people? Hitler? Stalin? Pol Pot?

Your beliefs about NDE's seem to me to be highly elastic - you can make any result mean anything you want - with no need to prove a shred of it - all to keep the cognitive dissonance in check.

Sorry, you're going to rot in a hole in the ground and be eaten by worms when you die, just like the rest of us.
 
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Mark F said:
Everyone? Even the bad people? Hitler? Stalin? Pol Pot?

Your beliefs about NDE's seem to me to be highly elastic - you can make any result mean anything you want - with no need to prove a shred of it - all to keep the cognitive dissonance in check.

Sorry, you're going to rot in a hole in the ground and be eaten by worms when you die, just like the rest of us.
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I'm immortal. I won't rot in the ground. Everybody goes to heaven.
 
JayUtah said:
No, "pretty much" everyone goes to heaven -- eventually. Now I'm interested in those few who are "pretty much" eternally screwed. Care to name them?
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Everybody goes to heaven. Death is like sleep, you wake up in a better universe.
 
Thor 2 said:
Do Pastaforians get to see the Flying Spaghetti Monster?
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Apparently so, and bask forever in his noodly appendages. Except that Pastafarians believe midgets don't go to heaven. In that religion gravity is only a theory, not a physical law. So midgets -- having obviously submitted too greatly to gravity -- are disallowed.
 
slipknot0129 said:
I don't fear death as people have seen God in their near death experiences.
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You don't fear death because you've created this eloborate and comforting story for yourself. If you want it to stay comforting, I'd leave now if I were you. Eventually, someone will make a point that causes the tiniest of doubts and so much for the comfort.
 
JayUtah said:
Nope. You suggested otherwise here:
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Which of these posts is in error?



How does that explain NDEs, where you suggest you get to heaven before you even die?
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I'm not sure, I'm only a human. God knows how souls work and stuff. I just know everybody goes to heaven.
 
slipknot0129 said:
I'm not sure, I'm only a human. God knows how souls work and stuff.
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Then if someone else is the authority on this, and you don't know enough to answer the tough questions, why should anyone pay attention to you? You're a poorly-informed messenger boy at best.

I just know everybody goes to heaven.
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No, you don't know that. As illustrated above, that's a point you've contradicted yourself on. It's now a foregone conclusion that you don't know what you're talking about.
 
Craig4 said:
You don't fear death because you've created this eloborate and comforting story for yourself. If you want it to stay comforting, I'd leave now if I were you. Eventually, someone will make a point that causes the tiniest of doubts and so much for the comfort.
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Theres nothing to fear about death, it's nothing but heaven after I'm dead. Our universe is infinite. Basically we came from nothing and nothingness is infinite. The top infinite being gained feelings, so she defines the universe the way she sees fit. Her feeling control the universe. Love being the strongest feeling she has. Love is the strongest force in the universe. We don't rot in the ground when we die.
 
JayUtah said:
Then if someone else is the authority on this, and you don't know enough to answer the tough questions, why should anyone pay attention to you? You're a poorly-informed messenger boy at best.



No, you don't know that. As illustrated above, that's a point you've contradicted yourself on. It's now a foregone conclusion that you don't know what you're talking about.
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Yes I know it's heaven after death. No reason to believe anything else. I only have evidence of heaven, we are living in heaven now. It only gets better after death.
 
slipknot0129 said:
Theres nothing to fear about death, it's nothing but heaven after I'm dead. Our universe is infinite. Basically we came from nothing and nothingness is infinite. The top infinite being gained feelings, so she defines the universe the way she sees fit. Her feeling control the universe. Love being the strongest feeling she has. Love is the strongest force in the universe. We don't rot in the ground when we die.
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What if "rotting in the ground" is my ideal? I won't get my version of heaven? Darn.

Oh, and love isn't a force, it's an emotion.
 
Hokulele said:
What if "rotting in the ground" is my ideal? I won't get my version of heaven? Darn.

Oh, and love isn't a force, it's an emotion.
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Pretty much since the universe is eternal. Given time someone will revive you. It's impossible to cease to exist. Love is the strongest force in the universe. Fact.
 
slipknot0129 said:
...it's nothing but heaven after I'm dead.
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You mean it's "pretty much" nothing but heaven. The exception being...?

Our universe is infinite. Basically we came from nothing and nothingness is infinite.
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And back to your Square One philoso-babble.

...so she defines the universe the way she sees fit.
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But that contradicts the part where everyone sees a different heaven and gets to go there. It's either dictated by your god or by the subjective belief of humans.

Her feeling control the universe.
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La donna é mobile, qual pium al vento...

Love is the strongest force in the universe.
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I need to change my oil. You wanna love my car about six feet in the air and hold it there while I drain the old oil?
 
JayUtah said:
Apparently so, and bask forever in his noodly appendages. Except that Pastafarians believe midgets don't go to heaven. In that religion gravity is only a theory, not a physical law. So midgets -- having obviously submitted too greatly to gravity -- are disallowed.
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That makes as much sense as any other religious belief expressed on this thread.
 
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