San Antonio mayor links poverty, religion

[fuelair]

She's a moron.

Probably a member of the Church of Current Day Morons!!!!

 

[fuelair]

She doesn't even have to go that far. SA has a huge Catholic population; hell, they have a huge religious population. 20% of SA is living in poverty. That was an extremely dopey thing to say for the mayor of a city with SA's demographics.

My wild guess is she was just trying to blame something that was not the city government/her fault!!!! And force everyone who is poor to go to Sunday School and sin no more!!!

 

[fuelair]

Generational poverty is a leading cause of imagined relationships with creators.

Quite!!!!!!!

 

[Aepervius]

Nice to see a strong black woman speaking her mind.

Amen

Why the heck did you bring her skin color into the discussion ?

No, really, why ?

 

[The Big Dog]

Why the heck did you bring her skin color into the discussion ?

No, really, why ?

Why not, it is accurate isn't it? It is true that African Americans suffer disproportionately from generation poverty is it not? Therefore she is in a position to address it.

She is also a democrat and is in a great position to address the fact that urban minority under Democrat administrations suffer disproportionately from generational poverty, agree?

 

[Roger Ramjets]

Why not, it is accurate isn't it? It is true that African Americans suffer disproportionately from generation poverty is it not? Therefore she is in a position to address it.

Stereotype much?

"Being a white male meant he was in a great position to address the disproportionate concentration of wealth by the top 1%"

urban minority under Democrat administrations suffer disproportionately from generational poverty, agree?

Nope.

 

[The Big Dog]

Stereotype much?

"Being a white male meant he was in a great position to address the disproportionate concentration of wealth by the top 1%"

Nope.

What a terrible analogy, smh.

 

[Cleon]

Why not, it is accurate isn't it?

Nope.

It is true that African Americans suffer disproportionately from generation poverty is it not?

It is also true that the African-American community is very religious. Which kinda shoots her theory down.

 

[TraneWreck]

This is obviously silly, and can be demonstrated in a thousand ways.

Here's one:

Each of the most religious countries is relatively poor, with a per-capita GDP below $5,000. This reflects the strong relationship between a country's socioeconomic status and the religiosity of its residents. In the world's poorest countries -- those with average per-capita incomes of $2,000 or lower -- the median proportion who say religion is important in their daily lives is 95%. In contrast, the median for the richest countries -- those with average per-capita incomes higher than $25,000 -- is 47%.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/142727/religiosity-highest-world-poorest-nations.aspx

I think it's pretty obvious that the causality runs from wealth --> lack of religion, as opposed to adopting religion making someone or a nation poor, but it still rejects the notion that being religious brings wealth.

 

[Trebuchet]

Nope.



It is also true that the African-American community is very religious. Which kinda shoots her theory down.

This is obviously silly, and can be demonstrated in a thousand ways.

Here's one:


http://www.gallup.com/poll/142727/religiosity-highest-world-poorest-nations.aspx

I think it's pretty obvious that the causality runs from wealth --> lack of religion, as opposed to adopting religion making someone or a nation poor, but it still rejects the notion that being religious brings wealth.

It isn't religion unless it's her specific brand of Christianity, obviously. Islam is not a religion. Nor is Catholocism, to a great many fundies. Just another cult.

 

[TraneWreck]

It isn't religion unless it's her specific brand of Christianity, obviously. Islam is not a religion. Nor is Catholocism, to a great many fundies. Just another cult.

You're totally correct about the way Christian fundamentalists view the world, but a whole lot of poor African and Latin American countries are really, really Christian. As are some of the poorer European nations.

 

[Trebuchet]

You're totally correct about the way Christian fundamentalists view the world, but a whole lot of poor African and Latin American countries are really, really Christian. As are some of the poorer European nations.

We're in violent agreement here. It's how the mayor sees it I'm pointing out.

 

[The Big Dog]

The country with the highest GOP is Qatar. That is not religious is it?

Hmm, UAE, Brunei....

Very religious. Very rich. Almost as if religion has a positive correlation with wealth.

Thank you Allah!

 

[Cleon]

The country with the highest GOP is Qatar. That is not religious is it?

Hmm, UAE, Brunei....

Very religious. Very rich. Almost as if religion has a positive correlation with wealth.

Thank you Allah!

As long as you forget about religion in the poorest countries and the relative wealth of more secular nations, your method works beautifully.

 

[stargazer0519]

Isn't Christianity the religion around Jesus, the guy who said to give all your possessions away, and kept harping about how wealth was evil, and something about shoving a needle right throught a rich person's eye? If I worshipped a deity who said stuff like that I'd try hiding my money in a secret bank account in Hell where he couldn't find out about it.

So, as I understand it from a very smart guy with a M.Div. from Duke, back in the old days, there were walls around cities.

And people got around on camels.

So, at various intervals at the wall around the city, there would be an "eye of a needle" - basically, a small archway - that one would 'thread' one's camel through.

The camel had to get down on its knees and shuffle its way through. The camel had to kind of crawl.

Apparently, Biblical-age people would brick up the 'eye of the needle' when the city was likely to be under attack.

So, rich people *can* get into heaven, but they have to get down on their knees and do the awkward shuffle. Basically, it's harder for them than it is, for say, a little kid, who can just run through the 'eye of the needle' like it's nothing.

This is giving new meaning to all those Biblical proverbs about how one has to have faith like a child and how a little child shall lead.

The "eye of the needle" in the wall was named after the eye of the needle that we think about when we have to re-sew a button.

At no point (and I grew up going to church) did Jesus ever say to shove a needle through a rich person's eye. Jesus healed the ear of the servant of the Roman who came to arrest him and eventually execute him. Followers of Christ may sometimes get out their swords and slice people, but Jesus doesn't do that, nor does He ever say to do that.

Jesus is the original inventor of the idea of turning one's cheek (Matthew 5:39-40).

 

[Foolmewunz]

The country with the highest GOP is Qatar. That is not religious is it?

Hmm, UAE, Brunei....

Very religious. Very rich. Almost as if religion has a positive correlation with wealth.

Thank you Allah!

Almost except not at all. But you know this. You're just defending Sky Daddy because you can't help yourself.

Seems there's rather a stronger positive correlation between oil and wealth. In the list of poorest countries in the world you'll find super-religious countries like Haiti and Afghanistan. And in the richest, you'll also find the classic secular societies in Scandinavia, Canada, Singapore and Switzerland.

 

[WilliamSeger]

So, as I understand it from a very smart guy with a M.Div. from Duke, back in the old days, there were walls around cities.

And people got around on camels.

So, at various intervals at the wall around the city, there would be an "eye of a needle" - basically, a small archway - that one would 'thread' one's camel through.

The camel had to get down on its knees and shuffle its way through. The camel had to kind of crawl.

Apparently, Biblical-age people would brick up the 'eye of the needle' when the city was likely to be under attack.

http://www.biblicalhebrew.com/nt/camelneedle.htm

A lovely story and an excellent parable for preaching but unfortunately unfounded! From at least the 15th century, and possibly as early as the 9th but not earlier, this story has been put forth, however, there is no evidence for such a gate, nor record of reprimand of the architect who may have forgotten to make a gate big enough for the camel and rider to pass through unhindered.

... The needle in Matthew and Mark is a rafic. In Luke it is a belone. But both are synonyms for needles used in sewing, but Luke's is more likely to be used by a surgeon than a seamstress.

 

[Darat]

So, as I understand it from a very smart guy with a M.Div. from Duke, back in the old days, there were walls around cities.


...snip..

That's a nice story, of course there is nothing to support it and quite a bit of evidence to show it is probably baloney. The more commonly accepted view is that it was a mistranslated word - should be cable/rope not camel*.



* as in the revolting creature that should be wiped from the face of the earth and knowledge of their existence expunged from history.

 

[fuelair]

I guess that explains Mexico's poverty, it's not like nearly 90% of the population are Catholic or anything....

But do they have a deep and lasting relationship with same - or do they just go through the motions (as I would under their circumstances, what with knowing surely such really was not real or life would be way better)!!!!!

 

[fuelair]

That's a nice story, of course there is nothing to support it and quite a bit of evidence to show it is probably baloney. The more commonly accepted view is that it was a mistranslated word - should be cable/rope not camel*.



* as in the revolting creature that should be wiped from the face of the earth and knowledge of their existence expunged from history.

One more biblical fail and/or stressed simile!!!!!!!