Brilliant Light Power Going To Market - Free Energy Generator

[jonesdave116]

Because the PV version doesn't require steam conduits, turbines, complex pressure regulation, condensers, etc.. etc.. etc..

You can stick a PV version in a compact car.

More lols. Jeepers, I think, from my genealogical research, that my g-g-g-grandfather might have been involved in the world's first passenger railway, between Manchester and Liverpool, back in 1830. Guess what they used (steam, for the hard of thinking)?

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Either way, you are kidding nobody. Neither is the idiot Mills.

 

[Mike!]

So if you have questions specifically for Mills, PM them to me with the subject "Mills Question" and I'll see if I can get an answer from him.

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Why waste time with PM's, why not just have them post their questions right here in this very thread for all to see? That way we'll all know what questions were asked, and better stil, which ones Mills bothered to try and answer, and how. What is there to hide?

 

[jsfisher]

You can stick a PV version in a compact car.

No, you can't. The results would be catastrophic in a collision. Moreover, the cooling mechanism required for normal operation would be huge.

 

[Reality Check]

I just got this letter from BrLP:

Do you think a delusional advertisement from BrLP means that almost 30 years of their failures will magically become an physically impossible success ?

Ask Mills some questions on well known and fairly simple physics, e.g.

1. Is a statement that the Schrödinger equation is wrong because it does not include relativity ignorant of the fact that the equation is non-relativistic?
   Answer: Yes. It is the Dirac equation that adds relativity. It is modern quantum physics that is fully relativistic.
   The Schrödinger equation is correct for non-relativistic situations. It is a good teaching tool before going onto more realistic physics.
2. What is the size of an electron in classic physics?
   Answer: The classic electron radius is a little bigger than the radius of a proton.
3. What is the measured size of an electron?
   Answer: The measured size of an electron is less than the radius of a proton.
4. What is the size of an electron derived from them being placed in a Penning trap?
   Answer: The derived size of an electron is several magnitudes less than the radius of a proton.
5. How fast is the surface of a an extended electron moving given its measured magnetic moment?
   Answer: Many times the speed of light !

 

[Matthew Cline]

Because the PV version doesn't require steam conduits, turbines, complex pressure regulation, condensers, etc.. etc.. etc..

You can stick a PV version in a compact car.

I'm not much of a car person, but the two steam powered cars displayed here seem to be about in the "compact car" size range. Besides, there's plenty of non-compact cars that could benefit, plus plenty of non-mobile structures that could use the mechanical or electrical power. Why not concentrate on the steam engine version first, and only after that's gotten working then work on a smaller version? Working on multiple designs at once just dilutes effort.

 

[ferd burfle]

I just got this letter from BrLP:

Dear Michael,

My name is Paul Allison and I will be taking over the media update responsibilities here at Brilliant Light Power.

Since our last update, we have made significant progress to our goal of producing clean, distributed power through our SunCell® development program and are now gearing up for our first lab based field trial in our Cranbury, NJ facility, mirrored at Columbia Technologies, our engineering partner in the next 2-3 months. In preparation, I wanted to share an updated media briefing pack with you that provides you with an overview of the program, the thermal and electrical applications of the SunCell® as well as a high-level overview of our commercial strategy.

Once you have had time to review, I would very much like to arrange a call with Dr. Mills to answer any questions that you may have. If this is of interest, please let me know a time that will work and I will make the arrangements.

Regards,

Paul Allison
Brilliant Light Power

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So if you have questions specifically for Mills, PM them to me with the subject "Mills Question" and I'll see if I can get an answer from him.

The email also contained a media information packet and their latest PowerPoint.

A not-so-surprising addition to the projected timeline is that they are planning to also offer a thermal version of their cell in addition to a photovoltaic version.

The first thermal version will allow for 500 kw of power to heat boilers, water heaters, etc.. The first PV version will be 150 kw of DC power. The timeline shows the thermal version going to market first, being targeted at industrial and commercial applications.

Michael, based on this invitation to a call with Mills, I think you have some serious skin in the game. I doubt the head of any startup, regardless of repute, has time for a phone call with someone who's just a member of their fan club. I sincerely hope you didn't go all-in.

 

[hecd2]

Because the PV version doesn't require steam conduits, turbines, complex pressure regulation, condensers, etc.. etc.. etc..

You can stick a PV version in a compact car.

Rubbish. Less than 10% efficiency in conversion to DC power means that if the damn thing produces any energy at all, 90% of it goes as heat and less than or (being generous) equal to 10% goes as DC power. A car needs an average of 23kW to cruise at an average of 70mph. So the "PV version" will need to produce 230kW of which 207kW is waste heat that will need to be managed. Makes your "steam conduits, turbines, complex pressure regulation, condensers, etc.. etc.. etc.." seem like child's play.

 

[Dave Rogers]

So if you have questions specifically for Mills, PM them to me with the subject "Mills Question" and I'll see if I can get an answer from him.

You can email BrLP's offices directly and I'm sure they would accommodate you with that information.

You're learning a lot from Mills, I see; it only took you three posts to go back on a promise.

Dave

 

[michaelsuede]

Rubbish. Less than 10% efficiency in conversion to DC power means that if the damn thing produces any energy at all, 90% of it goes as heat and less than or (being generous) equal to 10% goes as DC power. A car needs an average of 23kW to cruise at an average of 70mph. So the "PV version" will need to produce 230kW of which 207kW is waste heat that will need to be managed. Makes your "steam conduits, turbines, complex pressure regulation, condensers, etc.. etc.. etc.." seem like child's play.

We covered your nonsense point already.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Engine_power

 

[michaelsuede]

So far none of you have take me up on my offer to ask Mills any questions.

I figured there wouldn't be anyone with any respectable questions to ask.

 

[jrhowell]

Because the PV version doesn't require steam conduits, turbines, complex pressure regulation, condensers, etc.. etc.. etc..

You can stick a PV version in a compact car.

This device involves streams of molten silver shooting around at extreme temperature and pressure. Compared to that managing steam would be child's play.

 

[michaelsuede]

This device involves streams of molten silver shooting around at extreme temperature and pressure. Compared to that managing steam would be child's play.

Molten silver at moderate temperature and low pressure, in an enclosed magnetic pump driven recirculating system, that has no moving parts, and is small enough to fit in a half meter square area. Can't do that with a steam engine.

 

[hecd2]

We covered your nonsense point already.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Engine_power

How does that link help the fact that you'll have to get rid of over 200kW of heat steady-state if you use PV to power a vehicle? Yours is an utterly empty reply to a devastating challenge. BLP is a scam pure and simple.

 

[hecd2]

Molten silver at moderate temperature and low pressure, in an enclosed magnetic pump driven recirculating system, that has no moving parts, and is small enough to fit in a half meter square area. Can't do that with a steam engine.

Tres drole.
PS: what are you going to do about the 200kW or so of steady state waste heat?

 

[michaelsuede]

I'm not much of a car person, but the two steam powered cars displayed here seem to be about in the "compact car" size range. Besides, there's plenty of non-compact cars that could benefit, plus plenty of non-mobile structures that could use the mechanical or electrical power. Why not concentrate on the steam engine version first, and only after that's gotten working then work on a smaller version? Working on multiple designs at once just dilutes effort.

It doesn't work like that.

The greatest technical challenges to the steam car have focused on its boiler. This represents much of the total mass of the vehicle, making the car heavy (an internal combustion-engined car requires no boiler), and requires careful attention from the driver, although even the cars of 1900 had considerable automation to manage this. The single largest restriction is the need to supply feedwater to the boiler. This must either be carried and frequently replenished, or the car must also be fitted with a condenser, a further weight and inconvenience.

So, is it possible to build a steam powered car using the BrLP SunCell? - yes.

Would it be a massive waste of time and resources to do so? - absolutely.

Why would it be a massive waste of time and resources? - because the added complexity of the boiler system, the condenser system, and all the moving and pressurized parts and weight associated with it would be made completely obsolete by simply develping a PV system instead.

You act as if they have unlimited resources to pursue a million different avenues of development. How much do you think it would cost to design, implement and prototype such a steam powered system? How much time do you think it would take?

Come dude - think a little before speaking.

 

[halleyscomet]

Michael, based on this invitation to a call with Mills, I think you have some serious skin in the game. I doubt the head of any startup, regardless of repute, has time for a phone call with someone who's just a member of their fan club. I sincerely hope you didn't go all-in.

I'm pretty sure he's either a shill for Mills or he invested most, if not all, his Bitcoin profits in Mills.

I hope it's the former, because the latter, the compete loss of a once in a lifetime windfall to a nearly 30 year old slow burn failure, is just too depressing to contemplate.

 

[jrhowell]

Molten silver at moderate temperature and low pressure, in an enclosed magnetic pump driven recirculating system, that has no moving parts, and is small enough to fit in a half meter square area. Can't do that with a steam engine.

The silver is itself a moving part. My understanding is that it is inside of a hollow graphite dome that is heated to the point that it glows bright white. So while it is radiating outward it is also radiating a similar amount of heat inward. It is going to take some effort to keep that silver from boiling.

 

[michaelsuede]

Tres drole.
PS: what are you going to do about the 200kW or so of steady state waste heat?

The same thing they do with the existing, already in production use, concentrator PV cells. The same thing they do with existing, already in production use, internal combustion engines. They dump it to a radiator.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concentrator_photovoltaics

 

[hecd2]

The silver is itself a moving part. My understanding is that it is inside of a hollow graphite dome that is heated to the point that it glows bright white. So while it is radiating outward it is also radiating a similar amount of heat inward. It is going to take some effort to keep that silver from boiling.

Yep. At over 3000K. But we've already established the fact that the graphite dome evaporates, and disappears pretty quickly releasing whatever is inside (including pumped molten silver or silver vapour). But it's simpler than a steam engine because it hasn't any heat exchanger or turbine or cylinder. LOL.

 

[Matthew Cline]

You act as if they have unlimited resources to pursue a million different avenues of development.

Alright, fine. Why are they concurrently pursuing two different avenues of development? Last year they got $10 million in investment money for developing the photovoltaic version of the device, even though they haven't yet gotten the steam engine version going.