Brilliant Light Power Going To Market - Free Energy Generator

[Dancing David]

Yes, but that was with Hydrino 1.0. He is now working with Hydrino 2.0. Totally different set of properties!

Must be a MicroSoft product!

 

[Red Baron Farms]

Wait, since hydrinos are supposed to neither emit nor absorb photons, how could they be using as a lasing medium?

The proof hydrinos exist is they can't be detected, thus they must be dark matter? Remember this is a modern version of the Emperor Has No Clothes scam. Anyone who can't understand that those anomalous readings coming from Mill's burnt out flashbulbs are not proof of hydrinos must understand hydrinos are invisible to those who are unfit for their positions, stupid, or incompetent.

 

[bruto]

I note that in recent posts, "Hydrino" is singular and capitalized. He's coming up in the world.

 

[markie]

All he has to do is reveal the machine, warts and all, and all the fame and glory will still belong to Mills but then thousands of others

Yet when others use Mills hydrino producing cells and equipment, either on BLPs premises or offsite, and validate the results of Mills, people here complain that it's not truly independent.

 

[Hans]

Forget all the guff in the disclosure. It's just stuff copied from Mills's book and it doesn't render properly in any of my browsers anyway. Just go to the claims at the very end. He is claiming any laser which works on transitions between fractional states of molecular hydrogen. If it's that easy to get a population inversion and stimulate emission, then that's completely inconsistent with his claim that you can't detect hydrinos and that they are dark matter. It's a mess.

Maybe what Mills has found is a FEC hydrino (flaccid enabler chameleon) hydrino. It flops around and becomes whatever the experimenter needs it to be?

 

[markie]

Originally Posted by markie View Post

Several profoundly different prototypes from the 1990s to the the 2010s were validated by outside scientists to produce significant amounts of excess energy for days or even weeks.

If you could provide the references? (Hint none of the ones so far provide support for your claim.)

Here's one for you:

“We at The ENSER Corporation have performed about thirty tests at our premises using BLP’s CIHT electrochemical cells of the type that were tested and reported by BLP in the Spring of 2012, and achieved the three specified goals,” said Dr. Ethirajulu Dayalan, Engineering Fellow, of The ENSER Corporation. “We independently validated BlackLight’s results offsite by an unrelated highly qualified third party. We confirmed that hydrino was the product of any excess electricity observed by three analytical tests on the cell products, and determined that BlackLight Power had achieved fifty times higher power density with stabilization of the electrodes from corrosion.” Dr. Terry Copeland, who managed product development for several electrochemical and energy companies including DuPont Company and Duracell added, “Dr. James Pugh (then Director of Technology at ENSER) and Dr. Ethirajulu Dayalan participated with me in the independent tests of CIHT cells at The ENSER Corporation’s Pinellas Park facility in Florida starting on November 28, 2012. We fabricated and tested CIHT cells capable of continuously producing net electrical output that confirmed the fifty-fold stable power density increase and hydrino as the product.”

 

[markie]

And add this to the claims made by Mills to provide samples of hydrinos yet he never has done so.

Why not?

He has sent hydrino hydride compounds to many labs.

Also, Rowan University has the knowhow of how to produce and detect hydrino themselves, which they have done.

 

[Kid Eager]

Originally Posted by markie View Post




Here's one for you:

“We at The ENSER Corporation have performed about thirty tests at our premises using BLP’s CIHT electrochemical cells of the type that were tested and reported by BLP in the Spring of 2012, and achieved the three specified goals,” said Dr. Ethirajulu Dayalan, Engineering Fellow, of The ENSER Corporation. “We independently validated BlackLight’s results offsite by an unrelated highly qualified third party. We confirmed that hydrino was the product of any excess electricity observed by three analytical tests on the cell products, and determined that BlackLight Power had achieved fifty times higher power density with stabilization of the electrodes from corrosion.” Dr. Terry Copeland, who managed product development for several electrochemical and energy companies including DuPont Company and Duracell added, “Dr. James Pugh (then Director of Technology at ENSER) and Dr. Ethirajulu Dayalan participated with me in the independent tests of CIHT cells at The ENSER Corporation’s Pinellas Park facility in Florida starting on November 28, 2012. We fabricated and tested CIHT cells capable of continuously producing net electrical output that confirmed the fifty-fold stable power density increase and hydrino as the product.”

That's a claim, not the evidence.

 

[markie]

If there had been real validation it would have been many times repeated and through various methods. The scientific world would be abuzz with new research, hydrinos would be a hot keyword accross journals and mainstream media, and people would be getting Nobels. Bullcrap.

Are you underestimating the impact of such a discovery?

There is a small subset of the academic world that has validated Mills' findings. For the rest of the physical chemistry academic world, they either don't know about it, or are content to wait and see. You far overestimate the responsiveness of academia to external challenge and change. They are largely preoccupied with their own matters.

 

[markie]

How was this world shattering story suppressed?

And for 20 years, too?

It's got to be the biggest science news of the last 50 years at least, and it's worldwide great news.

It literally frees everyone on Earth from most energy expenses.

Yet I have to fumble around for a while with Google to find even vague information about it.

Don't worry, soon you won't have to fumble. And, the phase in of hydrino technology is going to take a lot of time. Perhaps in ten years your electricity costs will have decreased by fifty percent. Whoopie.

 

[markie]

You see, this is the absolute deal killer for investors. Even if Mills's scientifically impossible theories are correct, he's got a solid track record of failure, and thirty years of excuses. And even you, his most strident cheerleader, can't find anything more positive to say than that you think it'll all be different this time. Nobody in their right mind, knowing Mills's record, would invest a penny in his latest pipedream even if there were solid science behind it.

Dave

You see 'failure', and I see thirty years of progress in learning how to harness a new energy source, essentially single handedly.

 

[Kid Eager]

There is a small subset of the academic world that has validated Mills' findings. For the rest of the physical chemistry academic world, they either don't know about it, or are content to wait and see. You far overestimate the responsiveness of academia to external challenge and change. They are largely preoccupied with their own matters.

And you far underestimate my ability to know a hand-wave when I see one.

Your claim is not supported by academic interest in other new discoveries and possibilities - gravity waves, possible new particles from the LHC, mapping of "junk DNA" to purposes to name a few.

I wonder why the "discovery" of the hydrino is not getting attention? Actually, I'm not wondering at all. Your facile attempts to paint clothes on the naked emperor are plain for anybody without a considerable amount if skin in the game...

 

[markie]

...and you've been on the game for long enough to know where the evidence is, if there was evidence?

It's not like I have been documenting the evidence all these years. I read it at the time as an interested but casual observer, and, like the average person, remember some and forget much.

There have been a couple of books written about Mills and his work. I haven't read them but they would presumably contain much interesting information and document such evidence. One is by Thomas Stolper and a more recent one by Brett Holverstott.

 

[markie]

At#3216 I asked you this: "[46% efficiecy of concentrator PC cells is possible] Under standard conditions with 5 junction cells - with an incident colour temperature of ~5800K, an incident power density of 1000W/m2 and a temperature of 25 degrees C.

So Markie, what temperature will the graphite dome run at, what is the incident power density predicted to be, and what temperature will the PV cells be operating at?

If I recall correctly the plasma inside the dome will be close to 6000 K, but the dome will radiate at only about 3500K. Definitely on the redder side of white. Not sure what distance the cPV cells will be from the dome so don't know the temperature.

 

[markie]

Markie refuse adamantly to admit what independent means. In a way the conversation remind me of the jabba thread of immortality : once all objection have been given, they are waived with a simple gesture of hand, and the same argument "validation" repeatedly given , in spite of having shown to be improper.

By this point we are not arguing with Jabba/markie anymore, we are showing the info for lurker and google.

BLP is a business and has intellectual property. They have every right to choose who validates their technology, and yes they will even pay the validators for their work. Perish the thought. You can kick and scream that it's not 'independent', but the work of validation is nonetheless done, and by qualified entities.

 

[markie]

Interesting, given that markie recently said:



A question, markie. Which of the following statements is true, given that at least and at most one must be true?

(1) The SunCell is already producing hundreds of kilowatts of energy continuously at suitable wavelengths for PV cells, in which case your statement is untrue in its implication that the power density and the sustained reaction have not simultaneously been achieved?
(2) The SunCell is not yet producing hundreds of kilowatts of energy continuously at suitable wavelengths for PV cells, and BLP has knowingly released a false statement?
(3) The SunCell is not yet producing hundreds of kilowatts of energy continuously at suitable wavelengths for PV cells, but BLP does not have the engineering competence to understand that this is the case?

If (1), then clearly your statements on BLP are not credible. One might ask why BLP has not simply demonstrated this extraordinary radiant source publically, which would silence its critics instantly.
If (2), then BLP is defrauding its investors.
If (3), then BLP is incompetent to a staggering degree.

So which is it - you don't know what's going on at BLP, BLP doesn't know what's going on at BLP, or the whole thing's a fraud?

Dave

Surely you can do better at parsing. The term 'continuously' is opposed to an instantaneous, brief burst. Currently the SunCell can operate at hundreds of kilowatts continuously, but only for a relatively short duration, on the order of dozens of seconds if I recall correctly.

 

[Matthew Cline]

He has sent hydrino hydride compounds to many labs.

Also, Rowan University has the knowhow of how to produce and detect hydrino themselves, which they have done.

So multiple chemists/physicists have seen first-hand that there exists a ground-state of hydrogen that current quantum mechanics says is impossible, yet they're not stirring up a storm over it?

 

[markie]

Wait, since hydrinos are supposed to neither emit nor absorb photons, how could they be using as a lasing medium?

Hydrino can emit photons. Not from the electrons going to another orbital level, but from the smaller electron spin energy differences and molecular rotational vibrational energy differences.

Raman spectroscopy detects these spectra. In fact this is one method dihydrino is detected ; it gives off a much more energetic signature than H2 gas, which has the highest rotational energy of any known molecule if I recall.

 

[paiute]

You far overestimate the responsiveness of academia to external challenge and change. They are largely preoccupied with their own matters.

Total BS. You have obviously never spent time in the academic world. There are a whopping number of young chemists and physicists who would drown a puppy to get their hands on something like this. That they have not is damning evidence that there is no there in there.

 

[Matthew Cline]

Hydrino can emit photons. Not from the electrons going to another orbital level, but from the smaller electron spin energy differences and molecular rotational vibrational energy differences.

I'm pretty sure that electron orbital change is required for making a laser.