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Merged A God of Love / The Living God

The Big Dog said:
Oh golly, I hope so.

Truth be told, I took it and told them to "have a blessed day!" and then took my gum and put it in the pamphlet and dropped it in the trash. Might have been a bit of a big meany, sorry.

Oh well, have a blessed day!
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You showed them!
 
I wonder why, whenever the "God is Love" premise is brought up, those that support it can only dredge up scriptural quotations as "evidence" for their position. Why not present real-life examples? Are modern-day instances of God being Love so scarce that moldy text cherry-picked from ancient tomes (tomes which, by the way, also portray God as a fickle, cruel and anxious beast) remains the best possible testimony?
 
Wait, God loves me? I'm a guy? Is God gay? That might explain a few things, now that I think of it.
Meanwhile, I'm waiting with bated breath to see of the OP comes back. Or maybe baited breath, I get confused.
 
gerdbonk said:
I wonder why, whenever the "God is Love" premise is brought up, those that support it can only dredge up scriptural quotations as "evidence" for their position. Why not present real-life examples? Are modern-day instances of God being Love so scarce that moldy text cherry-picked from ancient tomes (tomes which, by the way, also portray God as a fickle, cruel and anxious beast) remains the best possible testimony?
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Good gravy, what a glorious notion! I had thought that the op wanted a more theoretical, a more liturgical, a more rarified but still sanctified discussion!

What you are suggesting is an old fashioned witnessing, praise Jesus!

I am all for it! Who else?
 
The Big Dog said:
Skeptical? Not a word I would use for the thread...
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Well, I wouldn't expect the credulous to know it when it was in front of them.

How about when they pass out anti-christian literature at the Daley center, because they did that, just letting you know.
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Then they have made up but a fraction of the global harassment from obnoxious religious folks.

If you totaled up all the well-meaning activists with clipboards on Michigan Ave., you'd generate a mere iota of the effort of one misguided Mormon teen on his way to Guatemala.

Drizzling in Chicago today, so maybe a bit more rain on the Righteous today, hmmm?

:D
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I mean, maybe that's stone cold in your world, but it just sounds daffy.
 
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The Big Dog said:
What you are suggesting is an old fashioned witnessing, praise Jesus!
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Nope.

Witnessing is just someone expressing their feelings about God. To an already-drank-the-koolaid witness. And, of course, a human that loves God is no example whatsoever that God is Love.

Just give me an example of a non-cherry-picked-taken-out-of-scriptural-context-text evidence that God is Love. A situation we all recognize where it's obvious which part is God, which part is Love and which factors exclude mere worldly explanations for the outcome. No Bible quotes, no analogies or metaphors, no confusing belief with fact, just a straightforward display of a deity embodying love.
 
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Johanabrahams said:
Brothers and sisters and children

Is there something like that . . . .and if there is . . .what is His Love to the human beings.

Just to leave them in their misery . . .an earth dying or is there more to Love?

Maybe a Love that we do not understand because we never ventured far enough?

Do we need it or are we complete without it?

Was what we are really the best that He could accomplish?

Love Johan
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What do you need from the god of love?
 
gerdbonk said:
Nope.

Witnessing is just someone expressing their feelings about God. To an already-drank-the-koolaid witness. And, of course, a human that loves God is no example whatsoever that God is Love.

Just give me an example of a non-cherry-picked-taken-out-of-scriptural-context-text evidence that God is Love. A situation we all recognize where it's obvious which part is God, which part is Love and which factors exclude mere worldly explanations for the outcome. No Bible quotes, no analogies or metaphors, no confusing belief with fact, just a straightforward display of a deity embodying love.
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Wow, you sure put up an incredible number of conditions on it. Like a lot! Like so many that there is no way that anyone could satisfy it, in fact it is almost like you don't want to consider the proof.

Let's do it!

Who will be the judges? Can't be me, or you... Or any of the other kool aid drinkers, so that excludes everyone in this thread.... Except the op!

Op will you judge?

Fantastic!
 
The Big Dog said:
No, I did not show them Christ's mercy and God's love.

And isn't that what this thread is all about?
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Tell me The Big Dog does this make sense or strike a cord with you?


A God of Love
Brothers and sisters and children

Is there something like that . . . .and if there is . . .what is His Love to the human beings.

Just to leave them in their misery . . .an earth dying or is there more to Love?

Maybe a Love that we do not understand because we never ventured far enough?

Do we need it or are we complete without it?

Was what we are really the best that He could accomplish?

Love Johan
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Doesn't make much sense to me and the OP has just dropped this gem and flown off it seems. So maybe you can help?
 
The Big Dog said:
Good gravy, what a glorious notion! I had thought that the op wanted a more theoretical, a more liturgical, a more rarified but still sanctified discussion!

What you are suggesting is an old fashioned witnessing, praise Jesus!

I am all for it! Who else?
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Tough. Anyone could elaborate on the sources for your god of hate from your own storybook.

Except that you reject your own storybook. You claim the book is not in any way true.
 
Curious that people choose to bring their grudges from the most catastrophic thread in atheist history.

I love you guys.
 
The Big Dog said:
Wow, you sure put up an incredible number of conditions on it. Like a lot! Like so many that there is no way that anyone could satisfy it, in fact it is almost like you don't want to consider the proof.
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Wow, it's almost like you don't have any proof to show!

Like any good evaluation, conditions are placed to prevent falsehoods from being accepted as proof. Those who believe in falsehoods frequently complain about the insurmountable burden of excessive conditions "so many that there is no way anyone could satisfy it!" "Stop oppressing me!"

Let's say I claim that the sky is blue because the atmosphere scatters blue light more than any other color due to its shorter wavelength.Then you put the following conditions on a proof: No quotations from ancient science writings, no analogies or metaphors, no confusing belief with fact, just a straightforward display of blue light waves scattering in the atmosphere.

My response would be: Wow, we better have a lot more controls than that! We need to define blue light, define atmosphere, define a light source, describe how we'll eliminate contamination from other light sources, determine what constitutes a successful trial, and many more items that aren't crossing my mind at the moment. In fact, it would not be unusual for the development of a strict protocol to take far, far longer than the test itself.

In fact it is almost like we don't want any nonsense whatsoever to be mistaken as proof.

Let's do it!

Who will be the judges? Can't be me, or you... Or any of the other kool aid drinkers, so that excludes everyone in this thread.... Except the op!

Op will you judge?
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Judges? Ah, yes. You believe that all things must be judged. The only way to determine truth is that some wise, independent-minded being must scrupulously observe the participants and, after careful consideration of the merits of each presentation, piously award the golden laurel to one faction or the other, followed by polite clapping from the peanut gallery.

It's not a contest.

It's not a poll, an argument, debate, or gymnastics meet.

The protocol defines what constitutes a successful outcome.

Present a situation that you think will prove God is Love. Should be easy, since, well, God is Love, right? Then we can continue refining conditions to make sure no nonsense slithers in to foul the result.
 
The Big Dog said:
Hey, super! This is not really the thread to do that, but that has not ever stopped an atheist from injecting it into just about every possible thread. I always say that atheists are the vegans of the religious world. How do you know someone is a vegan atheist? Don't worry, they'll *********** tell you! :D

But here we are speaking of god's love:



Corn 13;13
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This is not the thread for sticking to rational conclusions? Why not?

And again you quote Paul as if he had some special knowledge about God's nature.

I could claim to have a vision too you know, anyone can claim to have had a vision, but why would anyone believe it?

Will you acknowledge that it is at least possible that Paul's vision was not from God? It certainly contradicted most of the stuff in the Old Testament about God's law...
 
Brainache said:
This is not the thread for sticking to rational conclusions? Why not?

And again you quote Paul as if he had some special knowledge about God's nature.

I could claim to have a vision too you know, anyone can claim to have had a vision, but why would anyone believe it?

Will you acknowledge that it is at least possible that Paul's vision was not from God? It certainly contradicted most of the stuff in the Old Testament about God's law...
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God loves you
 
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