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I can't think of anything that would make Trump supporters more sympathetic than what these antifa kooks are doing.

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Which is also a big reason why Trump is now president. The "left" (or factions of it) can't seem to figure out that acting douchey isn't working.
 
This is what it would have looked like if they had cell phone cameras in 1920's Berlin.
 
In fairness, the links presented tell us very little about what happened at this gig, as far as who instigated what violence. We have a clear video of a fascist/nazi/Trumper/whatever punching a woman in the face, no run-up as far as what happened immediately before, so just a clear battery delivered by the Trump side. Actually, another clash where the pro-Trump marchers are aggressive (shades of Orange County).

Well...

The links tell us that, again, antifa went to someone else's rally looking for a physical confrontation ( nazi scalps ) and got what they were looking for.
 
In fairness, the links presented tell us very little about what happened at this gig, as far as who instigated what violence. We have a clear video of a fascist/nazi/Trumper/whatever punching a woman in the face, no run-up as far as what happened immediately before, so just a clear battery delivered by the Trump side. Actually, another clash where the pro-Trump marchers are aggressive (shades of Orange County).

In fairness? You just referred to people you do not agree with as fascists and Nazis.

Yeah, the loser bragging about going to instigate violence got her ass beat.

In fairness? Seems like it is her fault.
 
Well...

The links tell us that, again, antifa went to someone else's rally looking for a physical confrontation ( nazi scalps ) and got what they were looking for.

True enough, one woman said that. Also from the LA Times link:

LA Times said:
Stewart Rhodes, founder of the citizen militia group known as the Oath Keepers, said he came from Montana with about 50 others to protect Trump supporters. They were joined by bikers and others who vowed to fight members of an anti-fascist group if they crossed police barricades.

“I don’t mind hitting” the counter-demonstrators, Rhodes said. “In fact, I would kind of enjoy it.”

So I'm going with: they were in it together, expecting and relishing a fight.
 
In fairness? You just referred to people you do not agree with as fascists and Nazis.

No, I referred to only one attacker as a fascist/nazi/Trumper/whatever because I'm not sure what to call him. I guess you are right- 'batterer' or 'violent attacker' is the only precise term.

Yeah, the loser bragging about going to instigate violence got her ass beat.

In fairness? Seems like it is her fault.

As quoted above from the Times, both sides seemed ready to get rowdy. But one was filmed actually doing so, with no apparent provocation on the vid...a Trump supporter again.

And seriously, scalps? Isn't it kind of obvious that she means knocking off and swiping the red MAGA hats as spoils? Or do you insist that she meant literally scalping?

Her fault, huh? Talk is cheap. That guy wasn't talking, he just got very violent, without provocation from her.
 
True enough, one woman said that. Also from the LA Times link:



So I'm going with: they were in it together, expecting and relishing a fight.

If by "in it together" you mean the free speechers wanted to hold their rally knowing they were going to be attacked by antifa and adopted a bring-it-on attitude rather than stayed home cowering under their beds then, yes, there's a certain element of in it togetherness at play here.

Antifa girl needs 80 grand for a whole new life.
 
If by "in it together" you mean the free speechers wanted to hold their rally knowing they were going to be attacked by antifa and adopted a bring-it-on attitude rather than stayed home cowering under their beds then, yes, there's a certain element of in it togetherness at play here.

Antifa girl needs 80 grand for a whole new life.

Living in a squad and growing dreads sure got more expensive since I was young.

Inflation is out of control.
 
And seriously, scalps? Isn't it kind of obvious that she means knocking off and swiping the red MAGA hats as spoils? Or do you insist that she meant literally scalping?

Her fault, huh? Talk is cheap. That guy wasn't talking, he just got very violent, without provocation from her.

As spoils?

:rolleyes:

Sounds like the AntiFirstAmendement princess went 'spoiling" for a fight and took the beating she richly deserved.
 
No, I referred to only one attacker as a fascist/nazi/Trumper/whatever because I'm not sure what to call him. I guess you are right- 'batterer' or 'violent attacker' is the only precise term.

"Nazi" will do: "black people are inferior to whites, genetically".

Her fault, huh? Talk is cheap. That guy wasn't talking, he just got very violent, without provocation from her.

Question of the day: could it have anything to do with him being a nazi?
 
It probably has something to do with her wearing weighted gloves and taking a swing at the guy.

You figure ?

I was wondering shy she was wearing just one glove and put it down to some sort of Michael Jackson fashion statement.
 
Which is also a big reason why Trump is now president. The "left" (or factions of it) can't seem to figure out that acting douchey isn't working.
If the actions of a miniscule group of fringe, anti free speech militants made an iota of difference in the election outcome, I'll eat my Zorro mask.

"Big reason"? Absurd.
 
If the actions of a miniscule group of fringe, anti free speech militants made an iota of difference in the election outcome, I'll eat my Zorro mask.

"Big reason"? Absurd.


I didn't say that, I said "the left" or factions of it.

I will clarify:

A lot of liberals/Dems acted like idiots during the campaign. The media, the President himself, Hillary, burning flags, starting fights, false accusations. That is what I am talking about.

The left tried to bully their way into office and they are still bullying. It didn't work then and it won't work now. They never seem to learn ;)


The "left" (or factions of it) can't seem to figure out that acting douchey isn't working.
@Darat
Trump becoming president seems to refute your claim.
No. It worked for the Repubs, I said the left can't figure it out. Different kind of "douchey" I guess.
 
If the actions of a miniscule group of fringe, anti free speech militants made an iota of difference in the election outcome, I'll eat my Zorro mask.

Might depend on how that group is perceived - are they perceived to be a true minority or are they perceived to exert undue influence? Similar to the Tea Party, i guess. They were small, but I think they materially affected the views of many voters in the last couple of elections. I think they added to the polarization - they attracted more nutballs to the conservative side, and drove a lot of middle-of-the road people to vote for Obama.

So if the fringy anti-free-speech militants are perceived to either be a larger chunk than they are, or are perceived to be "squeaky wheel" getting more influence than their size allows, or are perceived to be more truly representative of how a larger number of liberals "actually" feel... they could have an impact.
 
If by "in it together" you mean the free speechers wanted to hold their rally knowing they were going to be attacked by antifa and adopted a bring-it-on attitude rather than stayed home cowering under their beds then, yes, there's a certain element of in it togetherness at play here.

Antifa girl needs 80 grand for a whole new life.

Hold up: is there reporting presented that the antifa initiated violence and pro-Trump marchers just defending? Where? The neo who laid into that woman didn't exactly look like he was defending himself.
 
As spoils?

:rolleyes:

Souvenir then?

Sounds like the AntiFirstAmendement princess went 'spoiling" for a fight and took the beating she richly deserved.

Care to expand on that one? She richly deserved to be hospitalized because of a tweet about collecting nazi scalps? The video shows no aggression on her part but certainly shows violence from the white supremacist.
 

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