Brilliant Light Power Going To Market - Free Energy Generator

[markie]

As The Man says, the use of the past tense makes it unequivocally a lie. And, if it was used to attract investors in the company, it would be fraud more or less by definition. All you're demonstrating here, therefore, is that you don't actually understand the concept of honesty.

Dave

There are timelines which clearly show that a fully working, energy generating device is due in the future, and is not a present reality. In that context, it is clear Mills is speaking of the product 'as if' it were done. It's not a question of honesty, it's a fact of forward looking vision.

 

[Red Baron Farms]

It isn't. Yet. But that's what is coming.

Don't hold your breath

 

[jsfisher]

There are timelines which clearly show that a fully working, energy generating device is due in the future, and is not a present reality. In that context, it is clear Mills is speaking of the product 'as if' it were done. It's not a question of honesty, it's a fact of forward looking vision.

Thanks for clarifying. Everything Mills has ever said should be interpreted 'as if' it were reality, just not a present reality. His timelines, too.

 

[Reality Check]

It's not a question of honesty, it's a fact of forward looking vision.

It is a question of delusion, honesty and/or legality, markie :

1. The delusion of hydrogen atoms in any state being dark matter.
2. The basic English of present tense = a lie.
3. Your allegation of "forward looking statement" = probably illegal in an advertisement for investors.

The advertisement by Mills could be all 3 - deluded, lying and illegal !
Part I: 37 items of ignorance, delusions and lies in Mills book
Part II: 24 items of ignorance, delusions and lies in Mills book
Part III: 18 items of ignorance, delusions and lies in Mills book

 

[The Norseman]

That page certainly sounds like the SunCell is complete and operating and producing electricity, doesn't it. But it isn't. That's one of those so - called "forward looking statements".

How do you know? It certainly isn't stated on the official website.

People who have been following relatively closely know this.

So how close are you then?

The SunCell *has* been operating, but it hasn't been operating as a closed dome unit, producing electricity.

Where is this demonstrated? Other than the absurd videos already posted in this thread, that is.

There has been a hole at the top of the dome for monitoring the reaction and actively venting heat and vapour out. It can operate like that for hours. But again, that isn't the closed dome, white hot, high power stage of product development.

Again, how do you know? It's quite a different story from Mills' official spokespersons and certainly not what the OP has said about it.

I'm guessing a couple of months before the dome is closed. Then once it is closed, there will be further refinements to make, so a few more months of tweaking after that. Then it's off to the races.

According to you then, it'll be about four months to a full production unit?

You likely couldn't directly report them. You'd have to have some sort of standing to sue them, and as someone who isn't an investor, and thus isn't directly harmed by their fraud, you likely wouldn't have the standing needed.

And of course, anyone who has invested, and thus would have such standing, has likely been screened by Mills in order to be gullible enough that they'll likely never believe they've been scammed.

If it's a general lie according to the law, however, I wouldn't necessarily have to show harm personally; at least, that's how I understand those sorts of laws, but I certainly could have mis-read what's already been posted.

I very much hope it is preserved as a matter of public record as well. But for different reasons of course.

Funny. Mr. Mills and his company's representatives seem to make things disappear regularly. Kinda like they really don't want a lot of information preserved.

There are timelines which clearly show that a fully working, energy generating device is due in the future, and is not a present reality. In that context, it is clear Mills is speaking of the product 'as if' it were done. It's not a question of honesty, it's a fact of forward looking vision.

It certainly is a question of honesty at this stage of the twenty-plus year game.

You're acting as if it's the first anyone has ever heard of Mills and his Magical Energy Machine(s) and ignoring the entire history of this farce.

 

[bruto]

There are timelines which clearly show that a fully working, energy generating device is due in the future, and is not a present reality. In that context, it is clear Mills is speaking of the product 'as if' it were done. It's not a question of honesty, it's a fact of forward looking vision.

Nonsense. If you have not done a thing and speak as if you have it's lying. Pure and simple. This is not rocket science, nor is it a complexity of language. A person who is capable of writing a declarative sentence is capable of stating the truth, and of distinguishing between the present and the future.

The simple word for this, whether it is a legal one or not, is fraud.

 

[Matthew Cline]

There is no need for concentrators. The light coming directly off the graphite dome itself has the intensity of many dozens of times that of sunlight striking the earth.

Then what do you mean by "concentrated" in "it looks like there is a delay on the concentrated photovoltaic front"?

 

[Dave Rogers]

There are timelines which clearly show that a fully working, energy generating device is due in the future, and is not a present reality. In that context, it is clear Mills is speaking of the product 'as if' it were done. It's not a question of honesty, it's a fact of forward looking vision.

So if I owe my bookie $1000 dollars and I have the money in my account, it's OK to tell him I've already paid him, because in context it's clear I'm speaking of the payment 'as if' it were done. It's not a question of financial fraud, it's a fact of forward looking vision. I'll have to try that some day.

But seriously: No, it is absolutely fraudulent if it's made as a statement to investors. It unambiguously implies that costs associated with specific developments have already been incurred, when in fact your own posts state that these developments not only have not been made, but are not trivial to accomplish, and hence one could infer would not be insignificant in cost. It therefore significantly mis-states the financial position of the company to investors by hiding costs that their investment will need to cover in order to commercialise the product. That's fraudulent.

Dave

 

[Darat]

There is no need for concentrators. The light coming directly off the graphite dome itself has the intensity of many dozens of times that of sunlight striking the earth.

There I go speaking like Dr. Mills, where the uninitiated might think that BLP has reached the point where the dome is already closed and is giving off brilliant, white, intense blackbody radiation. It isn't. Yet. But that's what is coming.

Such a telling tell.

 

[Dave Rogers]

Then what do you mean by "concentrated" in "it looks like there is a delay on the concentrated photovoltaic front"?

This is where the lies start becoming painfully obvious, isn't it? Mills has to say he needs something a little more complicated than simple solar PV cells, otherwise it wouldn't be plausible that he's been unable to procure anything to meet his requirements. However, the actual requirement that would be consistent with his supposed device is much simpler, so his spokesmen have to tell two stories at once and brazenly pretend they're the same story. It's the same as with these "forward-looking" statements, where Mills openly lies to his investors about having already achieved things he hasn't in order to get their money, then his supporters pretend there's no dishonesty in this, even though they admit he's never actually achieved them, by trying to redefine the concept of truth. It's almost embarrassing to watch at this stage.

Dave

 

[Darat]

Then what do you mean by "concentrated" in "it looks like there is a delay on the concentrated photovoltaic front"?

Which is quite amazing since the landing page of the website states:

"....using commercially-available concentrator photovoltaic cells....."

The issue markie is saying is now causing a problem is one that directly contradicts what BLP says.

markie has by the way repeatedly ignored that rather glaring contradiction in his attempts to cloud the issue.

 

[Darat]

This is where the lies start becoming painfully obvious, isn't it? Mills has to say he needs something a little more complicated than simple solar PV cells, otherwise it wouldn't be plausible that he's been unable to procure anything to meet his requirements. However, the actual requirement that would be consistent with his supposed device is much simpler, so his spokesmen have to tell two stories at once and brazenly pretend they're the same story. It's the same as with these "forward-looking" statements, where Mills openly lies to his investors about having already achieved things he hasn't in order to get their money, then his supporters pretend there's no dishonesty in this, even though they admit he's never actually achieved them, by trying to redefine the concept of truth. It's almost embarrassing to watch at this stage.

Dave

Look at my post above and you can see it is even more blatant, either the website was/is lying or Mills is now lying*. There is simple no way to reconcile the two things.

By the way we need to be careful about assuming too much, markie hasn't established any credentials as a spokesperson for BLP or Mills or for having accurate "insider" information, so far there is nothing (apparently) official from BLP that there is any delay.

 

[Dave Rogers]

Look at my post above and you can see it is even more blatant, either the website was/is lying or Mills is now lying*. There is simple no way to reconcile the two things.

By the way we need to be careful about assuming too much, markie hasn't established any credentials as a spokesperson for BLP or Mills or for having accurate "insider" information, so far there is nothing (apparently) official from BLP that there is any delay.

Nor is it clear whether the delay is due to the unavailability of 'commercially-available concentrator photovoltaic cells' which apparently 'There is no need for', or because BLP hasn't 'reached the point where the dome is already closed and is giving off brilliant, white, intense blackbody radiation.' Bit of a contradiction there, and one more achievement claimed by implication in the 'forward looking' statement. And, of course, if BLP is genuinely backing off the electrical generator application and starting with heater applications, as they should have done 25 years ago, one wonders why 'closing the dome' is so significant. Either the heat is being generated or it isn't. If it is, for a heater application there's no need to produce 'brilliant, white, intense blackbody radiation'; simple watts produced is good enough. And if it isn't being generated while the dome isn't closed, then where's the evidence that suddenly it will be when it is?

Everything is unravelling. I predict the Mills supporters will abandon the thread some time soon.

Dave

 

[Squeegee Beckenheim]

There are timelines which clearly show that a fully working, energy generating device is due in the future, and is not a present reality. In that context, it is clear Mills is speaking of the product 'as if' it were done. It's not a question of honesty, it's a fact of forward looking vision.

I like how you say this, but continue to ignore the fact that this "forward looking vision" is legally fraud. You don't like that fact, but you can't actually dispute that it's true, so you just pretend that it doesn't exist. This speaks volumes.

 

[Squeegee Beckenheim]

Which is quite amazing since the landing page of the website states:

"....using commercially-available concentrator photovoltaic cells....."

The issue markie is saying is now causing a problem is one that directly contradicts what BLP says.

markie has by the way repeatedly ignored that rather glaring contradiction in his attempts to cloud the issue.

Oh, well, what he means by that is that once you've invested he can use that money to develop concentrator photovoltaic cells , which he can then bring to market, thus making them commercially-available. It's not a lie, it's forward looking.

 

[Mister Earl]

I could say that I have a commercially available reactor I invented, powered by spriggans and bollocks, and I'd be more right than all this mess, because bollocks actually exist.

 

[halleyscomet]

I could say that I have a commercially available reactor I invented, powered by spriggans and bollocks, and I'd be more right than all this mess, because bollocks actually exist.

Although they typically only come two to a package.

Typically.

 

[jrhowell]

I suspect that they already tried closing the dome and it didn't produce the power expected. Now they are scrambling for excuses for further delays while they try to figure out why it does not produce the expected power.

(Spoiler: There are no hydrinos.)

 

[JeanTate]

If the foundation is so rotten, one wonders how he correctly predicts so many things like ionization energies.
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Yeah, yeah, this is from waaaay upthread, but it is relevant to what's being discussed recently.

markie, how do you know that Mills "correctly predicts so many things like ionization energies"?

I'm particularly curious about this in light of what I wrote in post #2838.

My guess is that you merely read something in Mills' weighty tome, and accepted it as true ... without doing any independent checking.

Relevance to recent discussion? These are all quotes from markie's (recent) posts (there are many more, this is just a sample):

"There is no need for concentrators. The light coming directly off the graphite dome itself has the intensity of many dozens of times that of sunlight striking the earth."

"That page certainly sounds like the SunCell is complete and operating and producing electricity, doesn't it. But it isn't."

"... where the uninitiated might think that BLP has reached the point where the dome is already closed and is giving off brilliant, white, intense blackbody radiation. It isn't. Yet."

"The graphite dome has a hole in the top of it. Nothing to do with the theory."

Unless you are Mills, or a Mills employee, or have taken a recent tour of the facilities near Princeton NJ, how do you know any of this, markie?

 

[halleyscomet]

A reminder, the infamous Mills tome can be downloaded for free from his company website:

http://brilliantlightpower.com/book-download-and-streaming/

Download the Entire Book (105 MB PDF File)
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