Bill O'Reilly: sexual harassment claims

[ponderingturtle]

I did. You sidestepped it when you made your strawman. The argument I made, several times, is that settlement does not indicate guilt. There are several reasons why one would settle out of court. This does not mean that I think O'Reilly is innocent. I know that last bit is difficult for you to understand, but try.

Yes this makes him in such prestigious company as the president. Who also settled his totally BS case against his prestigious university. It would be wrong to consider that as fraudulant, there was no admitting of wrong doing after all.

But making such things thinks you actually mean any of that. You clearly don't becuase why would you object to having it apply to other settlements? It applies equally to both settlements but you get called on that and now it doesn't mean anything.

 

[paulhutch]

https://www.billoreilly.com/g/Statement/868.html

Statement of Bill O'Reilly

April 1, 2017

Just like other prominent and controversial people, I'm vulnerable to lawsuits from individuals who want me to pay them to avoid negative publicity. In my more than 20 years at Fox News Channel, no one has ever filed a complaint about me with the Human Resources Department, even on the anonymous hotline.

But most importantly, I'm a father who cares deeply for my children and who would do anything to avoid hurting them in any way. And so I have put to rest any controversies to spare my children.

I like Ed Brayton's reply (check out the whole post and follow ups if you have the time)

And yet there are lots of hosts at Fox News and other networks who are rich and famous and thus would be the same kind of tempting target who have not had to pay out millions of dollars. Why do you suppose that is, Bill? And of course, we know that the accusations in the Andrew Mackris case were accurate because we’ve all seen the excerpts from those phone conversations you had when you were telling her you wanted to rub her down with falafel in the shower.

And that took place in 2004, while you were married and your children were very young. Apparently you didn’t care so much about them then. Or when your daughter said she had to watch you choke and drag her mother down the stairs. And yet you cared so much about your daughter then that you called her a liar in public. You’re practically father of the century, Bill.

 

[Belz...]

Yes this makes him in such prestigious company as the president. Who also settled his totally BS case against his prestigious university. It would be wrong to consider that as fraudulant, there was no admitting of wrong doing after all.

AGAIN, I'm not saying that they are innocent. I said so, explicitly, in the post you quoted. It takes quite a bit of dishonesty to so blatantly ignore that in your response. I'm saying that settlement, in and of itself, is no indicator of guilt. Do you agree with this or not?

But making such things thinks you actually mean any of that.

That's not even a sentence.

You clearly don't becuase why would you object to having it apply to other settlements? It applies equally to both settlements but you get called on that and now it doesn't mean anything.

In case you didn't notice, those settlements don't exist in a vacuum. There are other ways to judge people. And I'll remind you that I never concluded that Trump was guilty of the accusations, so where you see the hypocrisy is beyond me.

You just don't like that I disagree with your feeling-based position.

 

[Guybrush Threepwood]

https://www.billoreilly.com/g/Statement/868.html


I like Ed Brayton's reply (check out the whole post and follow ups if you have the time)

Are you sure that you and Ed Brayton haven't been had? Did you check the date on Bill O'Reilly's statement.

 

[ponderingturtle]

AGAIN, I'm not saying that they are innocent. I said so, explicitly, in the post you quoted. It takes quite a bit of dishonesty to so blatantly ignore that in your response. I'm saying that settlement, in and of itself, is no indicator of guilt. Do you agree with this or not?
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And those broad statements apply to all settlements.

 

[3point14]

Somebody round here did damn good job of pointing out to me that I was wrong about Micheal Jackson. Maybe it's the same with Bill?

 

[paulhutch]

Are you sure that you and Ed Brayton haven't been had? Did you check the date on Bill O'Reilly's statement.

I hadn't noticed the date thanks for pointing it out. Although if it's an April fool's joke then O'Reilly actually thinks he's guilty and a bad father, that seems rather unlikely. It seems far more likely it's a direct response to the NY Times article that was published on April first. https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/01/business/media/bill-oreilly-sexual-harassment-fox-news.html?_r=0

 

[Belz...]

And those broad statements apply to all settlements.

Yes, which is why we need more than just the settlement in order to pass judgment. Do you agree or not? It's a simple, yes or no question.

 

[Dr. Keith]

https://www.billoreilly.com/g/Statement/868.html


I like Ed Brayton's reply (check out the whole post and follow ups if you have the time)

Agreed.

 

[Emily's Cat]

I can't find any information on what the claims actually are, or what evidence exists with respect to them. Maybe my google fu is weak, but it seems mostly to be that O'Reilly had several settlements over the past few years where there was an accusation of harassment, only one of which was sexual... and then a bunch of advertisers jumped ship? Anyone have any actual information?

 

[dudalb]

Advertisers are jumping from the O Reilly show like it had the plague.

 

[Dr. Keith]

I can't find any information on what the claims actually are, or what evidence exists with respect to them. Maybe my google fu is weak, but it seems mostly to be that O'Reilly had several settlements over the past few years where there was an accusation of harassment, only one of which was sexual... and then a bunch of advertisers jumped ship? Anyone have any actual information?

I think the primary reporting was done by the (failed) New York Times. Here is one story, I think it is the first.

 

[Checkmite]

Are you sure that you and Ed Brayton haven't been had? Did you check the date on Bill O'Reilly's statement.

No; if there's one thing Bill O'Reilly does NOT do, it's self-deprecating humor. I saw a video once of some conference or panel or something, where another journalist did some extremely mild roasting of him for some silly mistake or boast he'd made in the past - the kind of ribbing that craftfellows tend to do at such gatherings, nothing wild or scandalous. But O'Reilly, who had the next turn at the podium, flipped his lid about it, railing against the guy for "attacking" him. He was clearly not amused.

 

[Emily's Cat]

I think the primary reporting was done by the (failed) New York Times. Here is one story, I think it is the first.

Thank you.

 

[fuelair]

https://www.billoreilly.com/g/Statement/868.html


I like Ed Brayton's reply (check out the whole post and follow ups if you have the time)

It's nice to have proof that what we knew was true about that rectum was true!!!

 

[fuelair]

No; if there's one thing Bill O'Reilly does NOT do, it's self-deprecating humor. I saw a video once of some conference or panel or something, where another journalist did some extremely mild roasting of him for some silly mistake or boast he'd made in the past - the kind of ribbing that craftfellows tend to do at such gatherings, nothing wild or scandalous. But O'Reilly, who had the next turn at the podium, flipped his lid about it, railing against the guy for "attacking" him. He was clearly not amused.

He may not be amused, but he is an *******!!!

 

[paulhutch]

I think the primary reporting was done by the (failed) New York Times. Here is one story, I think it is the first.

Yes, that's the NYT story from 4/1 I linked above that kicked off the whole situation. The BBC link in the OP seems to cover all the current news on the fall out from the NYT article.

 

[trustbutverify]

Advertisers are jumping from the O Reilly show like it had the plague.

Well, he is a remarkably reprehensible half-wit... although I realize that's not why his advertisers are dumping him.

 

[Spindrift]

Noted sexual predator Donald Trump says he doesn't think O'Reilly did anything wrong. Why am I not surprised?

https://www.yahoo.com/news/donald-trump-don-t-think-171105773.html

 

[Babbylonian]

Noted sexual predator Donald Trump says he doesn't think O'Reilly did anything wrong. Why am I not surprised?

https://www.yahoo.com/news/donald-trump-don-t-think-171105773.html

Once again demonstrating that it doesn't know when to keep its *********** mouth shut.

Seriously, I'm trying to imagine Presidents Obama, Clinton, or even Little Bush commenting on this kind of situation when they so clearly wouldn't have to.