Getaway driver arrested for murder.

Resume said:
What the **** are you talking about?
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In post #538, you have already pledged to not invade people's homes while wearing ski masks. So I figure you are learning, And this is a good thing. I don't know why you would want to do such a thing - hopefully not to hurt anyone.
 
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Resume said:
More ******** doing ******* stuff. You would think this needless tragedy would give folks pause, but no.

Jackasses.
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I'm also sad that ISF moderators have worked out what arse means, and now censors ********.
 
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Vixen said:
You made a patronising assertion I get all of my information from the television and from movies. How can you possibly know that?
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Because your assessment of the situation is utterly unrealistic. You proposed chatting up the home invaders and shooting things out of their hands. This is exactly what happens in movies.

My grandfather kept a range of guns in the makasiin, so your assumption is erroneous.
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How in the blue hell does that prove my assertion wrong? What does having a gun range have to do with shooting people or defending your home?
 
arthwollipot said:
How do you know that they do not have violent intentions? Can you take that chance, since they just broke into your home?
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You assume that any person who breaks into your home has violent intentions?
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It's very difficult to believe that you didn't write the above dishonestly. Can you not see the difference between what I said and what you claim that I said?

Who said anything about assuming violent intentions? If anything, I've said that you cannot assume, and act accordingly.

And yet you claim that it's "self-defense" and not vigilante extrajudicial execution.
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Do you know what self-defense is?

What a violent and depressing world you live in.
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Yeah it's not like these guys broke into his home or anything.

I'm sure if it happened to you, you wouldn't fear for your life or that of your family and would just wait patiently while hiding under your bed for them to leave.

Wait - killing someone is now "reasonable and cautious"?
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Can you not imagine any situation where this is true? If armed people breaking into your home while you're there isn't enough, how much of a threat would it take for you to consider defending your life?
 
Ranb said:
You are being evasive, again.

You claimed in part; "Apparently, this state has a 'Make My Day' law, which means you can shoot any intruder to smithereens with impunity." I want to see some evidence that this is true. Has anyone in the state of Oklahoma ever been able to shoot any intruder with impunity? As far as I know in Oklahoma whenever an identified individual has shot someone, they were either arrested and/or indicted for the incident or there was actually a reason for their actions which led to no charges being filed. This would be the opposite of what you claim.

Instead of supporting your claim, you deflect by bringing up the claims of others as if what they said has anything to do with how you do or do not support the claim you made.
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Three teens were shot to smithereens and the homeowner has absolute immunity (if the opinion here is taken at face value) because of OK law.

There was nothing to stop you explaining ATT that the Make My Day Law does not work like that. The reference to the MMD law was simply what I read in an Oklahoma online newspaper. First I ever heard of it.
 
Argumemnon said:
Because your assessment of the situation is utterly unrealistic. You proposed chatting up the home invaders and shooting things out of their hands. This is exactly what happens in movies.



How in the blue hell does that prove my assertion wrong? What does having a gun range have to do with shooting people or defending your home?
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No, the 'chatting up' was your sexist scenario and you even tried to introduce one of rape.

OK fair enough, maybe it wasn't realistic to suggest shooting in the peripheral limbs, but I know the IRA aimed for kneecaps perfectly adequately during the 'Troubles', so my suggestion is predicated on real life conflict.

Your view that I am a Bimbo simply because I have reservations about shooting dead on sight a bunch of half-drunk obvious teenagers is quite mistaken. I understand the homeowners extreme fright. And he seems like a really nice respectable guy. However, it doesn't necessarily make it right.
 
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Vixen said:
Your view that I am a Bimbo simply because I have reservations about shooting dead on sight a bunch of half-drunk obvious teenagers is quite mistaken. I understand the homeowners extreme fright. And he seems like a really nice respectable guy. However, it doesn't necessarily make it right.
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How do you know they were obvious teenagers? There are lots of teenagers that can be mistaken for grown men. Especially while wearing masks. Not that armed teenagers can't be a deadly threat.
 
Tony Stark said:
How do you know they were obvious teenagers? There are lots of teenagers that can be mistaken for grown men. Especially while wearing masks. Not that armed teenagers can't be a deadly threat.
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One can usually tell by their build. (OK, maybe it is not necessarily 'obvious', but in general youths are usually of slighter build due to a growth spurt.)
 
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Jules Galen said:
I wish I had been there instead of that 23-year-old-kid. I think I would have figured out a way not to kill those three kids.
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Maybe. And that would have been great. But maybe they would have figured out a way to kill you, which would not be so great.
 
Vixen said:
Three teens were shot to smithereens and the homeowner has absolute immunity (if the opinion here is taken at face value) because of OK law.
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These laws don't require you to shoot, they just acknowledge that a reasonable person might shoot in these circumstances. You still get the choice.
 
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