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Cont: President Trump: Part 3

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SezMe said:
The distinction is sharp and important. The tl;dr version is that if you know a statement is false when uttered, that's lying. When you don't care regarding its truthfulness, that ************. There's a whole, interesting essay on the topic; the Wiki article on ************ is a good place to start.

The key here is that Trump doesn't care about the truthfulness of his statements. Hell, he will contradict himself in the same paragraph and not give a damn, figuring his ****kicker fans won't care either.

Maybe you can shame a liar and hope that he/she will get the facts straight. You can't shame a bull****er because, again, they don't care if they're right or wrong. The problem with Trump is perfectly illustrated by his recent interview with Time. They told him before he showed up that the interview was going to be about his lying. But he didn't care. In that very interview about lying, he lied about his lying. He repeated some of the same lies he's been called on before.

That's not a liar, that's a bull****er. An unbelievably brazen one.
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******** is a form of lie. ********ters are a subset of the class of liars. I appreciate your observations as applied to this subset.
 
The Don said:
I'd prefer to characterise it as "blind optimism". IMO many people knew it was too good to be true - they weren't stupid - but went along in the hope that it could somehow magically, schmagically, come to pass.

A more cynical, harder bittemn public wouldn't have been that optimistic. It's not just a matter of intellect, some comparatively smart people were also swept along.
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Anyone who let themselves be "swept along" by Trump and his rhetoric had already disqualified themselves from being smart in comparison to anything that can move under its own power.

And most things that can't.
 
Firestone said:
And just in case it wasn't clear enough, Trump tweeted earlier: "Watch @JudgeJeanine on @FoxNews tonight at 9:00 P.M."

First (and last) time I listened to that silly judge: what a terrible experience.

I had to smile when she called Ryan a RINO, though.

And I saw on her Twitter feed that Gorka was her guest: ow well.
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If Ryan is a RINO, then that sure limits the field of "True" Republicans.
 
SezMe said:
The distinction is sharp and important. The tl;dr version is that if you know a statement is false when uttered, that's lying. When you don't care regarding its truthfulness, that ************. There's a whole, interesting essay on the topic; the Wiki article on ************ is a good place to start.

The key here is that Trump doesn't care about the truthfulness of his statements. Hell, he will contradict himself in the same paragraph and not give a damn, figuring his ****kicker fans won't care either.

Maybe you can shame a liar and hope that he/she will get the facts straight. You can't shame a bull****er because, again, they don't care if they're right or wrong. The problem with Trump is perfectly illustrated by his recent interview with Time. They told him before he showed up that the interview was going to be about his lying. But he didn't care. In that very interview about lying, he lied about his lying. He repeated some of the same lies he's been called on before.

That's not a liar, that's a bull****er. An unbelievably brazen one.
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Your semantic games are fooling no one.

A bull ******* who knows he is including lies in his bull **** is still a lying bull ******* ... or maybe a bull ******** liar.

Still a liar, either way.
 
Stacko said:
This better not be true.

Angela Merkel will reportedly ignore Donald Trump’s attempts to extricate £300bn from Germany for what he deems to be owed contributions to Nato.

The US President is said to have had an “invoice” printed out outlining the sum estimated by his aides as covering Germany’s unpaid contributions for defence.

Said to be presented during private talks in Washington, the move has been met with criticism from German and Nato officials.

While the figure presented to the Germans was not revealed by either side, Nato countries pledged in 2014 to spend two per cent of their GDP on defence, something only a handful of nations – including the UK, Greece, Poland and Estonia – currently do.

But the bill has been backdated even further to 2002, the year Mrs Merkel’s predecessor, Gerhard Schröder, pledged to spend more on defence.
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This could explain Trump's demeanor in the photo-op. Trump presents Merkel with the "bill", she explains to little Donny that that there are no dues in NATO, owed to the US or otherwise, and tells him in the nicest way possible what he can do with his bill. Maybe she points out that Germany has spent a ****-ton of money lately for war refugees while he's been trying to bar them from his country. Oh, to have been a fly on the wall...
 
quadraginta said:
Something else he can add to his titles and honors.

President, Groper in Chief, and First Cheater.
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What's even weirder is there was a clip put out by the Trump news release of Trump sitting around a big table lined with whoever he was meeting with that day. He encouraged one of the men there to tell the story about Trump's hole in one. I thought, as stupid and self indulgent as that little anecdote episode was, Trump golfs a lot, maybe he's a good golfer.

In light of this additional information, I'm much more inclined to believe someone (Trump or a caddy) dropped the ball in the cup.
 
The White House Office of American Innovation, to be led by Jared Kushner, the president’s son-in-law and senior adviser, will operate as its own nimble power center within the West Wing and will report directly to Trump. Viewed internally as a SWAT team of strategic consultants, the office will be staffed by former business executives and is designed to infuse fresh thinking into Washington, float above the daily political grind and create a lasting legacy for a president still searching for signature achievements.

“All Americans, regardless of their political views, can recognize that government stagnation has hindered our ability to properly function, often creating widespread congestion and leading to cost overruns and delays,” Trump said in a statement to The Washington Post. “I promised the American people I would produce results, and apply my ‘ahead of schedule, under budget’ mentality to the government.”


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“We should have excellence in government,” Kushner said Sunday in an interview in his West Wing office. “The government should be run like a great American company. Our hope is that we can achieve successes and efficiencies for our customers, who are the citizens.”

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Kushner proudly notes that most of the members of his team have little-to-no political experience, hailing instead from the world of business. They include Gary Cohn, director of the National Economic Council; Chris Liddell, assistant to the president for strategic initiatives; Reed Cordish, assistant to the president for intergovernmental and technology initiatives; Dina Powell, senior counselor to the president for economic initiatives and deputy national security adviser; and Andrew Bremberg, director of the Domestic Policy Council.
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...14a8b6-1254-11e7-ada0-1489b735b3a3_story.html

Trump and his inner circles wear their lack of experience in politics and state administration as a badge of honor but so far they have failed spectacularly when it comes to delivering results. Trumps inability of getting Obamacare repelled is a great example of how he's so far unable to deliver.
 
FenerFan said:
Nah, Trump is more Al Czervik, but minus the spirit of fun. I bet there's a few naked lady golf tees in his bag, too. :D
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But that was the dialogue between Danny Noonan and the judge right after the judge used the old foot wedge A few moments later there was this interchange between the two.

Danny Noonan: I planned to go to law school after I graduated, but it looks like my folks won't have enough money to put me through college.
Judge Smails: Well, the world needs ditch diggers, too.
 
Polaris said:
Try Texas in July-August. DC seems positively cool and crisp by comparison. (Also Florida).
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Mar-A-Lago traditionally closes in the summer. Its membership consists of snowbirds. They do a whole different group of vacation spots in the summer months. He'll probably open up Mar-A-Lago for the rubes in double-wides for the hot months. I'm sure the township will appreciate it. "Look, Cletus... it's Mr. Trump's country club. Take a pitcher of me and grandma by the cement pond."
 
Foolmewunz said:
Mar-A-Lago traditionally closes in the summer. Its membership consists of snowbirds. They do a whole different group of vacation spots in the summer months. He'll probably open up Mar-A-Lago for the rubes in double-wides for the hot months. I'm sure the township will appreciate it. "Look, Cletus... it's Mr. Trump's country club. Take a pitcher of me and grandma by the cement pond."
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Maybe he'll be flying to Scotland for the weekends in the summer. It's a lot cooler there than DC and he'd have one of his own courses to cheat on.
 
I guess I'll ask this here. Remember in the first debate when Clinton invited viewers to visit her website because she converted the homepage into a live fact-check, then Donald Trump interrupted and said "take a look at mine, also..." implying that he also had a fact-check operation. Am I right in recalling that he didn't have a fact-check? Because I vaguely remember people saying he lied about live fact-checking.
 
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