Tennessee House Bill 668

[ponderingturtle]

Actually, this law is a front door attempt at making protest more safe by encouraging protestors to not block public right of way knowing their legal protections are limited there.

Yes we need to stop celebrating the criminal march on selma and start focusing on the heroic actions of the police in fighting those lawbreakers. I think that will be the next big Selma movie.

 

[ponderingturtle]

Remember though that in an SYG state..........you just need to be in fear for your life.

Of course you can't exactly claim that when violating the law in an act of civil disobedience. Of course civil disobedience is wrong and un american from the very principles. We need to stop this foolish reverence for people advocating criminal civil disobedience like King and Gandi.

 

[ponderingturtle]

What is the actual problem this bill seeks to address? Have we examples of why current laws aren't adequate?

Uppity N@@@RS

 

[bruto]

Uppity N@@@RS

Right. It's a feelgood law taking government time and expense to expand government jurisdiction, so as to express political opinions, as is consistent with the conservatives who stand for smaller government, the irrelevancy of feelings, and the end to political correctness.

 

[ponderingturtle]

Here we have exactly why we need these laws.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/car-crashes-mardi-gras-parade-alabama-injuring-band/story?id=45805179

 

[fuelair]

So would you have shot John Lewis on the Selma March then or figure the beating was enough of a deterrent for blocking the road?

We need to start realizing how heroic the cops were in fighting these uncivilized protesters back then.

No, I would not have shot him unless he was pointing a gun or other weapon that could easily have hit me at our distance apart...........I am still only referring to the blocking of public ways.

 

[Planigale]

Actually, this law is a front door attempt at making protest more safe by encouraging protestors to not block public right of way knowing their legal protections are limited there.

I do not know US law. In the UK pedestrian's have right of way, whilst you would be foolish to try and cross a busy road, once a pedestrian starts across the road they have right of way over the cars.

I guess this may apply to the demonstrations where pedestrians continually cross the road to block traffic?

Presumably in most cases the demonstration will be policed? The police should be taking action to divert emergencies, control traffic etc.

 

[Planigale]

So you also support the british troops in the boston massacre as well. They really could have used repeating rifles.

Certainly I suspect under US rules of engagement in Iraq far more of the locals would be dead.
http://www.eyewitnesstohistory.com/bostonmassacre.htm

 

[ponderingturtle]

No, I would not have shot him unless he was pointing a gun or other weapon that could easily have hit me at our distance apart...........I am still only referring to the blocking of public ways.

I get it you are against traditional forms of civil disobedience and think that Gandhi and King are criminals who do not deserve any respect.

Thankfully we have people standing up to that, like the person who drove their SUV into the marching band blocking the street recently.

 

[Mikemcc]

Oh, I think it may be ultimately unproductive but I yet don't find that it should be license for Sparky and Dub to run ya down wit' they 4x4. Just as a lot of miscreants reinterpreted SYG to mean you could do anything you want*, there are people who are going to only hear the headlines here and say, "The Governor said it's okay. Go ahead, Dub! Floor it, dude!"

*Randy Cassingham cited a case this week, where a guy pleading SYG didn't quite understand why shooting a guy who was running away didn't quite qualify. It's pretty hard to claim you were afraid for your life when the guy is fleeing and you plugged him in the back.

See this case for car-crash TV in the UK:

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=a...hUKEwj31YLS57XSAhXMFJoKHdxyB-0Q_AUIBigB&dpr=1

The old guy shot the fleeing burglar in the back, tried to claim self-defence and was quite rightly put away for his troubles. He is one of the reasons why we have some of the strictest gun laws in the world.

For any politician in the US that wants to tackle US crime statistics and the murder rate, the biggest, most problematic, issue is gun ownership. It's crazy that toddlers kill more people than terrorists. Why not ban families with children under 10? Nope, lets ban people from countries that have limited exposure to terrorism and excuse countries that are exposed to terrorist networks simply because Trump Inc. does business there. That's your biggest 'conflict-of interest' issue, not Russia, though that mess is bad enough.

There are countries that have comparable gun ownership values to the US (Canada and Switzerland spring to mind, without checking the actual figures). Address why the US is such a psychotic country first, then the rest of us might try and understand you better. In general the checks and balances system used in the US is good, though the legislative and executive elections are totally screwed by corporate interests and gerrymandering.

Trump actually chose a relatively acceptable candidate for SCOTUS, but I can see the remaining liberal judges hanging on for grim death to deny the dimwit his chance to pack SCOTUS with blind followers.

 

[ponderingturtle]

See this case for car-crash TV in the UK:

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=a...hUKEwj31YLS57XSAhXMFJoKHdxyB-0Q_AUIBigB&dpr=1

The old guy shot the fleeing burglar in the back, tried to claim self-defence and was quite rightly put away for his troubles. He is one of the reasons why we have some of the strictest gun laws in the world.

For any politician in the US that wants to tackle US crime statistics and the murder rate, the biggest, most problematic, issue is gun ownership. It's crazy that toddlers kill more people than terrorists. Why not ban families with children under 10? Nope, lets ban people from countries that have limited exposure to terrorism and excuse countries that are exposed to terrorist networks simply because Trump Inc. does business there. That's your biggest 'conflict-of interest' issue, not Russia, though that mess is bad enough.

My favorite was the unavoidable tragedy of the family that had a young child kill his older sister with a gun his grandfather left around the house. And this after a different gun fell over and went off almost killing her. Not that anyone did anything wrong and they are of course very actively involved in the shooting sports.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/after-a-toddler-accidentally-shot-and-killed-his-older-sister-a-familys-wounds-run-deep/2016/12/01/1c0dead2-9c85-11e6-9980-50913d68eacb_story.html?utm_term=.d72f5007a2c9