Russia decides its been overplaying its hand.

[McHrozni]

I guess it comes down to the degree of overlap between the two. If Russia is in the position that various scurrilous rumours suggest, that it has very compromising material on President Trump which it could release, that it holds a lot of debt belonging to the Trump companies and that there are multi-billion dollar deals involving Russia (and requiring the suspension of sanctions and so forth) from which the Trump companies would benefit, then there may be a lot of overlap and Trump could continue to operate to their benefit.

OTOH if all the above is wholly or largely imaginary and the only reason that Trump has apparently supported Russia's interests to date is a personal regard for Putin and a desire for world peace (what ? It could happen ) then the recent reversals could significantly affect that personal regard and cause a reassessment of Trump's stance regarding Russia.

True. This then reminds me of the situation president Reynolds was placed in on the TV show Prison Break. She was faced with two opponents, each of which had compromising material on her that would destroy her career instantly, and they put forward conflicting demands.
She had no other option but to resign immediately, ostensibly for health reasons. That would be a great resolution to the Trump experiment.

McHrozni

 

[The Don]

True. This then reminds me of the situation president Reynolds was placed in on the TV show Prison Break. She was faced with two opponents, each of which had compromising material on her that would destroy her career instantly, and they put forward conflicting demands.
She had no other option but to resign immediately, ostensibly for health reasons. That would be a great resolution to the Trump experiment.

McHrozni

I'm not sure that Trump is anywhere near that position yet (assuming that the Russians have some leverage over him - something I'm not yet convinced of) because he's coming under little or no pressure from the GOP. Yes the Flynncident was a bit of a knock-back but there has been little or no permanent damage and now he's got a new security adviser, the GOP can go back to believing that everything's peachy.

 

[McHrozni]

I'm not sure that Trump is anywhere near that position yet (assuming that the Russians have some leverage over him - something I'm not yet convinced of) because he's coming under little or no pressure from the GOP. Yes the Flynncident was a bit of a knock-back but there has been little or no permanent damage and now he's got a new security adviser, the GOP can go back to believing that everything's peachy.

If Russians have no leverage over him the scenario becomes one where he was enchanted by Putler, and the said wizard broke the spell by daring to direct his media outlets against God-Emperor Trump. That's the best-case scenario.

Visible Russian leverage over Trump would see enough of his GOP base abandon him to at least cause problems. There are elections in 20 months you know.

McHrozni

 

[thaiboxerken]

FYI independent minds tend to come up with their own nicknames for people.

Nope.

I'm with tyr. It is ridiculous to claim that independent minds tend to come up with their own nicknames for people. If it were true, that would make communications about specific people very unproductive.

If I talk to people about the famous astronaut, Shiny Boots, people won't know who the heck I'm talking about. If I say Buzz, though, communication is much more efficient.

 

[quadraginta]

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My only concern is that your talent and interest in explaining things logically is so different from Trump's approach and requirements that evidetually you would no longer be able to stomach it and you would need to quit.

Nah. Wouldn't ever happen.

A necessary prerequisite for any Trump apologist is an infinite capacity for self-deception.

 

[trustbutverify]

Following the resignations after it was revealed his closest advisors were colluding with Russia to obtain their assistance for elections Trump will be hard pressed to maintain a cordial stance with them.

Trump is walking on thin ice. Between the interests of Russia and his own interests, who do you think he will choose?

McHrozni

Depends on where his risks lie. There may be risk factors we don't know about yet... and may never know.