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[Hans]

So Markie how many more years to an actual product? Additionally what is your position within the Mills' company?

 

[markie]

So Markie how many more years to an actual product? Additionally what is your position within the Mills' company?

I'm guesstimating a working prototype and field units in 2018, and marketable products by 2022.

Mills would say much sooner than that, but he has a history of being overly optimistic and underestimating problems.

I have no position in the company, nor do I know anyone personally in the company. Just an observer in the peanut gallery.

 

[Dave Rogers]

The safety of the end product, hydrino, depends I suppose. Dihydrino gas H2 is extremely stable and inert, moreso than, say, helium. However hydrino hydride, H-, as far as I recall, can combine with metals to form interesting crystalline compounds. But I don't know enough about this aspect to know if it would pose a risk to human safety.

Then perhaps it should be investigated before bringing a product to market. That should keep potential marks investors strung along for another ten years or so, don't you think?

Dave

 

[Red Baron Farms]

Mills has taken great lengths to look for nuclear signatures, and found none. He has even used heavy water, with the same negative results. Note that in muon catalyzed fusion, the muon (heavy) is much closer to the nucleus, and shields much more than the electron of a hydrino.

Is that surprising? Remember hydrinos assuming they even exist are darkmatter. Completely undetectable at that scale. So you have an undetectable material that doesn't have a detectable radioactive decay rate. hmmmm

Ever hear the parable of the Emperor's new clothes?

 

[Darat]

So far, the reaction chamber is not closed ; it consists of an open (at that top) graphite sphere enclosed in a large transparent glove box, which vents the vapours and the substantial heat out.

At the bottom of the graphite sphere is where two streams of molten silver are injected and intersect, and where the hydrino reaction mostly occurs.

That doesn't seem to add up given the claimed timescale. You are saying they are not just months away from going into commercial production. Why should we believe what you say rather than what the company claims?

 

[MikeG]

Molten silver goes in and comes out. Small amounts of an oxide go in and come out. Hydrogen gas goes in and hydrino comes out. High electric current at low voltage goes in, and mostly high energy photons (in the extreme UV) come out, at least until they are absorbed by the silver vapour which reemits as blackbody spectrum.

I've spotted the flaw!

Electricity in.......light bulb lights up........solar panel collects light.........electricity out. Who'd've thunk it?

 

[Mojo]

The safety of the end product, hydrino, depends I suppose. Dihydrino gas H2 is extremely stable and inert, moreso than, say, helium.

So where is it?

 

[Lukraak_Sisser]

So where is it?

More to the point, why is there Hydrogen at all?

If the hydrino the the more stable version, why did not all hydrogen gas in the 14 billion years of the universe become hydrinos?

 

[Mojo]

Well, exactly.

 

[The Man]

Is there any reason to think there's more here than a redox reaction, i.e. simple chemistry?

There is hardly any oxygen at all. The only oxygen comes from a very heat stable oxide compound added to the silver and which sparingly reacts with added hydrogen gas to very briefly form water, a catalyst for hydrino formation.

Silver was chosen because it's a great conductor and because it doesn't have oxidation issues at high temperatures, among other things. The special refractory oxide is simply carried by the molten silver, it's oxygen combines with H2 to form water, the water is ionized upon catalyzing hydrino formation, and the oxide get's its oxygen back.

So "There is hardly any oxygen at all" yet it is still critical and central, as is apparently repeated redox reactions, to your stated operation. Why try to downplay such a central role of your own stated catalyst (water) and the apparently repeated redox reaction? Why not just use water as a catalyst instead of making water (by burning hydrogen) to use water as a catalyst?

Just to be clear, the power source is a couple (?) of common, commercial capacitors. They deliver very short bursts or pulses of power, in magnitude comparable to a hair drier. Most of that is current. Voltage is only 3V or thereabouts. The power release spike from hydrino formation lasts much longer than the input power pulse, and is of considerably greater magnitude.

Mark

Capacitors are not a power source, they do not produce their own charge separation. What actual power source initially charges those capacitors and how long does the device have to remain attached to such an actual source of power to be operational?

 

[marplots]

I've been in contact with some people I know at the Pentagon. It may be time to weaponize this. Unfortunately, that means shutting BLP down in the commercial sector for national security reasons.

Please consider the security ramifications before posting any further details about the process in this forum. The Russians are listening!

ETA: I refer those outside of the intelligence community to Executive Order 13526, available at the National Archives: https://www.archives.gov/isoo/policy-documents/cnsi-eo.html

 

[halleyscomet]

So far, the reaction chamber is not closed ; it consists of an open (at that top) graphite sphere enclosed in a large transparent glove box, which vents the vapours and the substantial heat out.

At the bottom of the graphite sphere is where two streams of molten silver are injected and intersect, and where the hydrino reaction mostly occurs.

It the sphere is open on top how is the vaporized silver supposed to condense again?

 

[markie]

Then perhaps it should be investigated before bringing a product to market. That should keep potential marks investors strung along for another ten years or so, don't you think?

I'm no investor, but if I was I wouldn't mind being 'strung' along for another few years. It's a given that there will be health and safety and environmental assessments done.

 

[markie]

Is that surprising? Remember hydrinos assuming they even exist are darkmatter. Completely undetectable at that scale. So you have an undetectable material that doesn't have a detectable radioactive decay rate. hmmmm

The formation of hydrino is detectable when it is formed, based on a characteristic light signature. But after that it is hard to detect, even in the lab. You have to know what to look for, and therefore how to look for it. Mills has done that.

 

[markie]

That doesn't seem to add up given the claimed timescale. You are saying they are not just months away from going into commercial production. Why should we believe what you say rather than what the company claims?

I don't recall BLP saying they were months away from commercial production. Rather (if I recall correctly) they are due for a working prototype in the next month or two, and field applications starting later in 2017. Personally I think that is overly optimistic. BLP has been relatively silent for the last month, so there is no news for the peanut gallery. Is no news good news? In this context I don't think so. But I'm just speculating.

 

[hecd2]

Spirits are difficult to detect, even in a haunted house. You need to know what to look for, and therefore how to look for Them. Ghost busters have done that.

I am not impressed by this display of gnostic legerdemain.

 

[marplots]

I'm afraid it's bad news.

What is known about secrecy orders is largely the result of Freedom of Information Act requests filed by groups like the Federation of American Scientists, an independent, nonpartisan think tank. Those documents show that the overall number of secrecy orders has steadily increased in recent years, totaling more than 5,300 by 2012, with some of them in effect for decades.

Tens of thousands of patent applications are manually examined each year under the Invention Secrecy Act and referred for a final decision to the Pentagon, National Security Agency, Department of Justice and, more recently, Department of Homeland Security.

“From the patent owner’s perspective, you’re stuck in this legal limbo where the government says you’ve got this valid invention, but there’s nothing you can do with it until maybe decades later,” said Mark Lemley, a technology law professor at Stanford University.

Secrecy orders are rare, but violating one can result in prison time.

Full article: https://www.wired.com/2013/04/gov-secrecy-orders-on-patents/

Until this clears the secrecy/weaponized hurdle, it's just not something anyone should invest in.

 

[markie]

I've spotted the flaw!

Electricity in.......light bulb lights up........solar panel collects light.........electricity out. Who'd've thunk it?

Well of course, a lot more energy comes out than goes in. Bomb calorimetry and other methods have established that. Those methods are not in the context of the SunCell, but in specific designs meant to test for what the hydrino reaction is producing.

 

[markie]

So where is it?

The dihydrino is captured in a matrix and tests performed. Also, hydrino hydride crystal like compounds have been analysed. But as far as I know there has been no pure, bulk dihydrino gas collected.

 

[markie]

More to the point, why is there Hydrogen at all?

If the hydrino the the more stable version, why did not all hydrogen gas in the 14 billion years of the universe become hydrinos?

A good point. First of all, Mills would say the vast majority of the hydrogen in the universe has turned into hydrino, aka the missing mass of the universe, aka dark matter. Secondly, hydrino is formed by contact with an appropriate catalyst. The conditions have to be right. Frankly, I'm skeptical that *all* the dark matter is hydrino.