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[Darat]

My problems began in 1988 when the police investigated me, I got the gun some time after, probably 1989.

I believe it was a deactivated second world war officers revolver.

Should have checked your dates before you committed them to a post.

For non-UK folk, in 1987 there was one of the most serious recent non-terrorist mass shootings in the UK, we know it as the Hungerford massacre .

As you may be aware we have had quite tight gun control laws for sometime and in light of that massacre awareness of gun ownership and public outrage were running very high. It is beyond unlikely that someone with a gun considered to be dangerous by the police (gun or person!) would not have been arrested and prosecuted at that time (I don't know about back then but certainly today that offence has to be charged and go to the relevant prosecution service). Yet we are expected to believe the police not only didn't do this but made up a "waver (sic)" to take his dangerous gun from him. No such "wavers" existed.

It's all a tissue of lies, and the lies will continue to get more elaborate and more ludicrous as people expose problems with his previous lies.

 

[Scorpion]

Should have checked your dates before you committed them to a post.

For non-UK folk, in 1987 there was one of the most serious recent non-terrorist mass shootings in the UK, we know it as the Hungerford massacre .

As you may be aware we have had quite tight gun control laws for sometime and in light of that massacre awareness of gun ownership and public outrage were running very high. It is beyond unlikely that someone with a gun considered to be dangerous by the police (gun or person!) would not have been arrested and prosecuted at that time (I don't know about back then but certainly today that offence has to be charged and go to the relevant prosecution service). Yet we are expected to believe the police not only didn't do this but made up a "waver (sic)" to take his dangerous gun from him. No such "wavers" existed.

It's all a tissue of lies, and the lies will continue to get more elaborate and more ludicrous as people expose problems with his previous lies.

Crap ! It was a deactivated gun, and could not fire bullets, the only offence I committed was to put in a firing pin. The police probably did not think that warranted prosecution, or at least they decided not to because I let them keep the gun.

 

[Macgyver1968]

Crap ! It was a deactivated gun, and could not fire bullets, the only offence I committed was to put in a firing pin. The police probably did not think that warranted prosecution, or at least they decided not to because I let them keep the gun.

The Webley doesn't have a separate firing pin. It's part of the hammer assembly:

Webley hammer

 

[Scorpion]

I just checked the web and you can still buy deactivated hand guns. You can also legally own antique percussion pistols and flintlock pistols and rim fire pistols that work.

 

[Scorpion]

The Webley doesn't have a separate firing pin. It's part of the hammer assembly:

Webley hammer

Nope, it slots into a slot in the hammer, I know because I made the firing pin. I looked at the link and that hammer is not the same as the type I had, it looks more modern.

 

[Porpoise of Life]

Damn it, now I'm replying to this thread when I said I wouldn't...

Crap ! It was a deactivated gun, and could not fire bullets, the only offence I committed was to put in a firing pin. The police probably did not think that warranted prosecution, or at least they decided not to because I let them keep the gun.

If we assume this is true... how does the fact that the police showed you much more leniency than they could have factor into your persecution complex?

If you think they had it in for you personally and were going out of their way to involve as many people as they could in an illegal plan to find or cause any offence they could book you for, then why would they let you go?

If you're not lying, you've just provided evidence against your conspiracy theory.

 

[Macgyver1968]

Nope, it slots into a slot in the hammer, I know because I made the firing pin. I looked at the link and that hammer is not the same as the type I had, it looks more modern.

My mistake, although some of the .455 Webley's have a firing pin that was physically part of the hammer, and not removable (except with a saw) They are actually older models, not modern.

Here's one as you describe...you can see the pin that holds the firing pin in place.

Webley frame

 

[Scorpion]

Damn it, now I'm replying to this thread when I said I wouldn't...


If we assume this is true... how does the fact that the police showed you much more leniency than they could have factor into your persecution complex?

If you think they had it in for you personally and were going out of their way to involve as many people as they could in an illegal plan to find or cause any offence they could book you for, then why would they let you go?

If you're not lying, you've just provided evidence against your conspiracy theory.

As I said somewhere the police took my gun years after the original trouble, and I had moved away from the town where this all began. The police where I had moved to had occasion to search my flat thinking I might be guilty of something which I was not, and I do not think the officers that took my gun knew anything about my past.

 

[Scorpion]

My mistake, although some of the .455 Webley's have a firing pin that was physically part of the hammer, and not removable (except with a saw) They are actually older models, not modern.

Here's one as you describe...you can see the pin that holds the firing pin in place.

Webley frame

Thanks.

 

[Macgyver1968]

Thanks.

It's a good thing to be able to admit when you're wrong about something.

 

[Porpoise of Life]

As I said somewhere the police took my gun years after the original trouble, and I had moved away from the town where this all began. The police where I had moved to had occasion to search my flat thinking I might be guilty of something which I was not, and I do not think the officers that took my gun knew anything about my past.

But you claimed you saw the police of your new town conspire with your new neighbours to spy on you...

Actually, don't bother explaining it. Good luck dealing with your paranoid schizophrenia.

 

[Scorpion]

But you claimed you saw the police of your new town conspire with your new neighbours to spy on you...

Actually, don't bother explaining it. Good luck dealing with your paranoid schizophrenia.

I might as well explain. The town I moved from was small and there were only about half a dozen officers, most of which were friends of the man I threatened. But the town I live in now is large and has a big police station that has dozens of officers. The two that dealt with my gun probably knew nothing about me. But it is my experience that other officers here do know my case.

 

[abaddon]

I might as well explain. The town I moved from was small and there were only about half a dozen officers, most of which were friends of the man I threatened. But the town I live in now is large and has a big police station that has dozens of officers. The two that dealt with my gun probably knew nothing about me. But it is my experience that other officers here do know my case.

That is not because of a conspiracy. It is because the police have this thing called a database. Ever heard of those? It's called the Police National Computer.

See the word "National" in there? What do you suppose that means?

Think you name is in it? You bet your sweet bippy it is.

Why? Your various behaviours, that's why. Everywhere you go, if you give any cause for a cop to look up your name, they will find the history of your previous interactions. All of them.

That is not a conspiracy. That is simply the way the PNC works.

 

[Darat]

I just checked the web and you can still buy deactivated hand guns. You can also legally own antique percussion pistols and flintlock pistols and rim fire pistols that work.

And?

 

[fagin]

And start firing your flintlock around the neighbourhood, and I guarantee the cops will be on you like a ton of bricks.

 

[abaddon]

And start firing your flintlock around the neighbourhood, and I guarantee the cops will be on you like a ton of bricks.

I find that notion odd (not yours). It is puzzling that our protagonist seems unable to understand...well anything much. If some yahoo wandered around my neighbourhood firing a gun, screaming at random strangers and accusing random passerbys of who knows what. I would call the cops immediately. That is scary behaviour.

Yet, our proponent, somehow believes some variation of this and is unable to see how scary this behaviour is.

Were it me, I would move someplace else. I have no desire to to inflict such nonsense upon my children.

 

[hgus]

Do British police have drives to collect guns, "No questions asked"?

 

[abaddon]

Do British police have drives to collect guns, "No questions asked"?

Occasionally, yes.

http://www.wiltshire.police.uk/departments/firearms/faqs-firearms/785-what-is-a-gun-amnesty

 

[fuelair]

As I said your story is internally incoherent, that you apparently can't see that could explain why you believe what you have typed happened.

However because your claims keep getting wilder and wilder and suddenly new details are added (that you think explains problems people have brought up about your story) my opinion at the moment is that you are a serial liar and a fantasist that enjoys the attention your tall tales gain.

I'm taking a flier on that one!!!!! Explains everything!!!

 

[P.J. Denyer]

A couple of years ago I accidentally carried a pocket knife through security at Gatwick and the Police were called, on that occasion I was required to sign a note in the officer's notebook to the effect that I was handing over the knife to be destroyed. It may have been something similar, today waving around a pistol, even a toy but certainly a blank firer would certainly be treated a lot more seriously but in 89 or so, shortly after the restrictions were tightened, if he wasn't actually waving it around when the police arrived and gave it up voluntarily.. Maybe, just possibly, perhaps, on your luckiest day ever.