“This is what tolerance looks like at UC Berkeley”

It's interesting to see how the denunciations from the left are all of the "this hurts our cause" variety. It's a question of tactics for them, not of right and wrong. That's because they actually see Milo and his supporters as evil, not as people who simply have a different point of view and have the same right to express it as anybody else.
 
sunmaster14 said:
It's interesting to see how the denunciations from the left are all of the "this hurts our cause" variety. It's a question of tactics for them, not of right and wrong. That's because they actually see Milo and his supporters as evil, not as people who simply have a different point of view and have the same right to express it as anybody else.
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That's a somewhat false dilemma.

In my view, it is both wrong and stupid counterproductive tactics.
 
I don't remember agreeing to tolerate absolutely everything just because most of my political opinions fall into the left-hand side of the American political spectrum.

As in most of life, the Golden Rule applies. This particular jerk doesn't seem keen on tolerance for others, I can't see why he thinks he's in a position to demand it for himself.
 
Firestone said:
That's a somewhat false dilemma.

In my view, it is both wrong and stupid counterproductive tactics.
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Well, you're the first anti-Milo poster in the thread to express such a sentiment. Even Puppycow, who is one of the most thoughtful and civil posters here, only expressed disapproval of the riot in terms of its practical effect rather than whether or not it was morally acceptable.
 
TragicMonkey said:
I don't remember agreeing to tolerate absolutely everything just because most of my political opinions fall into the left-hand side of the American political spectrum.

As in most of life, the Golden Rule applies. This particular jerk doesn't seem keen on tolerance for others, I can't see why he thinks he's in a position to demand it for himself.
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It doesn't appear to me that you understand what the Golden Rule is.
 
TragicMonkey said:
"Do unto others as they do unto you." There was another version for a while but it proved to be wishful thinking, and ineffective.
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Well, really it should be "do not unto others as you would have them not do unto you," but, yeah, that's the gist of it. So how does the Golden Rule apply to Milo? He gives speeches and writes articles which attack political correctness and the people who try to enforce it on the rest of the population (for convenience, I'll call them SJWs, but I don't mean it to disparage). The SJWs are already giving speeches and writing articles which denounce Milo and people of his ilk. Have Milo and his supporters ever disrupted an SJW event? Ever harassed SJWs physically, or shouted in their faces up close? Ever rioted? Ever?

So then how does the Golden Rule apply except to show that the anti-Milo protesters are violating it?
 
sunmaster14 said:
Well, really it should be "do not unto others as you would have them not do unto you," but, yeah, that's the gist of it. So how does the Golden Rule apply to Milo? He gives speeches and writes articles which attack political correctness and the people who try to enforce it on the rest of the population (for convenience, I'll call them SJWs, but I don't mean it to disparage). The SJWs are already giving speeches and writing articles which denounce Milo and people of his ilk. Have Milo and his supporters ever disrupted an SJW event? Ever harassed SJWs physically, or shouted in their faces up close? Ever rioted? Ever?

So then how does the Golden Rule apply except to show that the anti-Milo protesters are violating it?
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Exactly as I said: he doesn't tolerate others, therefore others don't tolerate him. That his opponents have chosen different tactics doesn't alter the root of the problem. If he wants to run crying to Mommy because people are tired of his crap and didn't confine their disapproval within bounds he's comfortable in, too bad. Actions have consequences. That's politics.
 
TragicMonkey said:
Exactly as I said: he doesn't tolerate others, therefore others don't tolerate him. That his opponents have chosen different tactics doesn't alter the root of the problem. If he wants to run crying to Mommy because people are tired of his crap and didn't confine their disapproval within bounds he's comfortable in, too bad. Actions have consequences. That's politics.
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Ok, I see that you really don't understand the Golden Rule, despite being able to recite it.
 
Milo Yiannopoulos is Jewish, openly gay, and he was born in Greece.

That makes those who hate him and want to silence him anti-semitic, homophobic, and xenophobic.

This says a lot about the supposed "tolerance" of the left when they attack and silence a gay Jewish man who hails from a foreign country.

Hypocrites.
 
sunmaster14 said:
Actually, Milo has been met with meltdowns by liberals on campus where ever he has gone. They've never reached the level of vandalism in Berkeley last night, but there have almost always been organized disruptions of his speeches and harassment of people on their way to his talk or leaving it.
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In the best conservative right-to-life tradition, then?
 
uke2se said:
Agreed. Progressive politicians need to reach out to these misguided individuals and harness their rage for the struggle to come. Properly deployed, these kinds of actions can do wonders for a resistance movement.
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I'm sure they care a lot about your so-called "progressive politicians". Probably as much as they care about some random person on the internet saying when they can and can not light a fire.
 
sunmaster14 said:
Actually, Milo has been met with meltdowns by liberals on campus where ever he has gone. They've never reached the level of vandalism in Berkeley last night, but there have almost always been organized disruptions of his speeches and harassment of people on their way to his talk or leaving it.
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By liberals?
 
Foolmewunz said:
In the spirit of your and logger's posts. Suck it up, losers! We won. UCB has cancelled further appearances by the misogynist creep.

That's all that matters. Score one for the shout-em-down critics!! Woooooot!
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That calls for a song
 
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