President Trump: Part II

[Emily's Cat]

Then I misunderstood.

I'm not sure what there is to compromise about with voters though.

Priorities, objectives, goals as a nation. All the things that play in to who ultimately gets elected as politicians. If you quit alienating the middle-ground voters, you're likely to win more seats in political positions, and accomplish more in the long run.

As it is, the Democratic side has a tendency toward insulting, mocking, and dismissing citizens. Citizens who otherwise might have landed just left of middle instead of just right of middle.

 

[Skeptic Ginger]

At the moment, yes. One side is behaving quite a bit worse. That would be the side that refuses to listen and repeatedly and willfully casts their opponent as bigoted ignorant deplorables... and then insists that such commentary shouldn't be insulting because it's "reality".

You do see what the right elected, right?

So, did they know what they were electing and not care? Did they fool themselves and believe he was someone other than himself? Did they miss the blatant personality disorder that was on full display for more than a year leading up to the election? Would you say that was denial and wishful thinking?

Did they really think Clinton was a bad choice? To that I say, you bought the lie, hook line and sinker because there is no evidence she is all the negative things that she's been made out to be. But even if you believed all that, the choice was still between a seriously pathologic narcissist and a standard politician.

 

[Marcus]

Yes, that's it, good job!

You're welcome.

 

[Skeptic Ginger]

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As it is, the Democratic side has a tendency toward insulting, mocking, and dismissing citizens. Citizens who otherwise might have landed just left of middle instead of just right of middle.

And the alt-right that dominates the GOP at the moment are so reasonable? Have you ever read Breitbart's site?

Read or listened to Ann Coulter or her up and coming protege, Milo Yiannopoulos? How about Rush Limbaugh?

 

[Emily's Cat]

This compromise is a very interesting concept. Does it mean we agree to all just be a little bit racist, just violate a few human rights and only start every second war that is suggested?

Hmm, It's hard to see how moderate conservatives could be at all offended by such a thoughtless and derisive remark.

 

[Emily's Cat]

Careful what you wish for.

Since you have no idea what the left stands for or what liberalism is, you might find yourself in a regime you not only dislike, but one that specifically makes your life a lot less pleasant.

I still think Trump would have won massive support if he had put Bernie Sanders in charge of DHHS.

 

[Emily's Cat]

You make these comments like you just landed on this planet. Would you like to try and list the issues I disagree with this administration on?

You have this need for me to define the left for you, it is just more hiding on your part because you refuse to be honest and admit what you are.

Once you respond, we can waste everyone's time discussing ridiculous things you should already know, including my take that Trump is much better IMO than Hills.

I'm pretty sure that your definition of a leftist is "anyone who disagrees with logger about anything".

Other than that, in my personal opinion, your view of liberals is at least as caricatured of most of the descriptions of conservatives that are bandied about on ISF.

 

[Marcus]

And you can tell me what I am as much as you like, but the fact is that:



There you go. That's my results. It's hard to anyone to claim from that that I'm somehow on the far left. I'm barely left of center.

Now when you're done flaunting your ignorance and lying about other posters, the conversation might get more interesting.

I'm perhaps 2 or 3 squares directly to your right. Naturally logger thinks I'm a leftist, or at least he would if I posted more.

 

[SezMe]

Trump said that every time the Mexican government says they won't pay for the wall, it would get 10 feet higher.

By now, it should be something like 240ft.

By the end of the year NASA will have to boost the orbit of the International Space Station.

 

[Emily's Cat]

You really cannot figure this out can you? These top notch "workers" quit because obviously they don't agree or like Trump. You can decide why they quit?

Do you think republicans would do this?

One would hope that a fair number of republicans would do exactly that if they believed that he was unethical and expected to behave in ways that jeopardize national security and the well-being of the citizens of the country.

You know, if you look at the principles of the republican party and their historical position on things like the military, ethics, individual freedom, etc.

 

[Shalamar]

By the end of the year NASA will have to boost the orbit of the International Space Station.

Heck, after 4 years, we'll put a man on the moon again! They'll just have to climb the wall!

 

[SezMe]

This statement seems rather odd. Of course a border wall will have a net effect on illegal migration.

No it won't. If my reading is correct, the net migration now is negative. Putting up a wall won't keep the Mexicans here.

 

[Emily's Cat]

Your premise isn't true, so your logic above is invalid. I don't "mostly" agree with leftists. It's just that YOU, logger, are so far to the right that I almost always disagree with YOU.

Hell, I'm moderate-right for the most part, and Argumemnon and I agree on FAR more than I agree with logger about!

That's a special end of the right tail.

 

[SezMe]

He's bragging about the claque he brought to the CIA. Also, Peyton Manning never addressed the CIA. He either thinks he got bigger standing ovation in a CIA briefing room than Manning did in a football stadium or Manning spoke to the CIA. Neither of those thoughts are sane. This man should be in an asylum not the White House.

The article I read said that CIA staff don't sit down unless the President tells them to. Since Trump never told them to have a seat, they stood for his whole speech. So even if only one dufus in the back of the room did a slow clap, Trump would claim he got a standing ovation.

The guy is such a clueless goober.

 

[Emily's Cat]

And you can tell me what I am as much as you like, but the fact is that:

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There you go. That's my results. It's hard to anyone to claim from that that I'm somehow on the far left. I'm barely left of center.

Now when you're done flaunting your ignorance and lying about other posters, the conversation might get more interesting.

I believe my last run through put me about one square further south than you, and just half a square on the right.

Yay for middle ground!

 

[dudalb]

Re the "Don't Come" tweet:

People are pointing out, with glee, that in his "Art of the Deal" Donald says that insulting an alienating someone you are negotiating with is a terrible tactic. He needs to take his own advice.

 

[Beelzebuddy]

Hmm, It's hard to see how moderate conservatives could be at all offended by such a thoughtless and derisive remark.

Noted, but the question needs to be answered. The GOP's strategy for the past decade or so has been to issue fair demands for reasonable compromise, and then pull back the veil on some new frothing insanity that is to be "compromised" with, while offering nothing in return. Where was their compromise when they blocked *any* Obama-appointee for the Supreme Court? When they voted to repeal the ACA some sixty times?

Moderate conservatives should be ashamed of their own party's behavior. It's proven successful for accomplishing many of their policy goals, but at the cost of burning down all pretensions to civility and reasonable discourse.

They chose to crap in the bed, they can't bitch about the smell.

 

[Emily's Cat]

No? I suppose I can refuse to take your test. I'd rather go on what people say, you might have not been quite honest in your answers.

Wow. That's some mighty fine tapdancing.

 

[Emily's Cat]

The interesting thing about that quote is that she didn't do that. The full "deplorables" quote went on for about two paragraphs, and said almost the opposite of how the out of context sound bite sounded.

Sometimes I feel sorry for politicians.

I've read the whole thing. I can in fer what her intent was, but she still in the end said that half of Trump's supporters are deplorables. She was referencing the Reuters/Ipsos survey. I find it particularly offensive because she used it as a rallying cry for the Democratic platform while conveniently failing to mention that one-third of her supporters are in that same basket.

 

[Emily's Cat]

I'm beginning to wonder if Trump is confusing trying to convince everyone he has a big dick with convincing everyone he is a big dick. Because he's quite convincing on the latter.

I'm not overly impressed with his apparent intellect. He may have a tough time with verbs.