New telepathy test, the sequel.

Loss Leader said:
... You said that you could not completely rule out whether you were responsible for 39 deaths in India.

If that is true and if you consider yourself a moral person, you should report your suspicions to the Indian Railway Ministry. I would hope you're not an unrepentant murderer. ...
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I repost this:
Michel H said:
... I feel that this humanity is (apparently) guilty of lying to me, of persecuting me, sometimes of trying to "poison me" with inadequate and toxic drugs, and of not providing efficient help when they are fully aware of the facts. Normally, when a certain group of people is guilty of a certain crime, it must be punished (there is some legal basis for this, in terms of "right of self-defense", https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right_of_self-defense , it seems to me). I know that all of this sounds very negative, this is why I sometimes try to help too.
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Michel, we know that you feel people are guilty of lying to you, poisoning you, persecuting you etc. I think everyone understands how difficult it must be to live in a world that you feel is doing those kinds of things to you. We understand how disconcerting it is to see connections between your posts or thoughts and world events. Most of us can empathise with how difficult it must be to have hostile voices that nobody else can hear talking to you.

<SNIP>

There is no evidence for telepathy or worldwide conspiracies against you. Nobody can hear your thoughts, even if they occasionally guess the right answer in your poorly constructed tests. Even if they jokingly or sarcastically say they can.

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SNIP, breach of rule 12.
 
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So Michel if you want us all to believe, why not try a different method that completely eliminates our ability to lie about the outcome? How about trying to influence a very public figure? Don't attempt to injure anyone of course. But tell us ahead of time the public person you will try to influence and what behavior we should expect. We wouldn't be able to deny that correct? And if it can't be done, perhaps consider speaking with a doctor about your feelings?
 
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Michel H said:
However, I feel that this humanity is (apparently) guilty of lying to me, of persecuting me, sometimes of trying to "poison me" with inadequate and toxic drugs, and of not providing efficient help when they are fully aware of the facts. Normally, when a certain group of people is guilty of a certain crime, it must be punished
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It appears you are saying that the appropriate punishment for lying to you is death.

You're arguing that 39 people whom you never met deserved to die because they didn't provide you efficient help.

If that's true, then it still doesn't make sense why you won't admit your role in their deaths to the Indian government. After all, hundreds of people are working very hard to try to understand the physical cause of the derailment and how to make those tracks safer.

If you are right and people deserve death for their crimes against you, it seems the very least you could do is own up to it.

Otherwise, as an unrepentant murderer, you really don't deserve help, do you? Or you might admit that you had nothing whatsoever to do with a train accident thousands of miles from you. I really see no middle ground.
 
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Michel H said:
No, I did not want to cause any trouble to anyone, I was just trying to respond honestly to Loss Leader (in the case of India), and to Jack by the hedge (in the case of Australia). I don't post here with some kind of secret and perverse intent to make bad things happen.
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So you believe you are killing people by typing the names of those countries, but continue to do so because you wanted to respond to someone on the internet? It makes no sense. I am sure you really would not want to kill people. That leads me to believe that you don't really believe you are able to influence events in the way you claim.

Further, if you really thought you could communicate telepathically, you would not bother to post here at all. I mean, are you really saying that could have avoiding typing "India" and "Australia" repeatedly, and thus killing many people, with magic mind powers, but decided to kill people anyway?
 
kali1137 said:
... How about trying to influence a very public figure? ...
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Loss Leader said:
It appears you are saying that the appropriate punishment for lying to you is death.

You're arguing that 39 people whom you never met deserved to die because they didn't provide you efficient help.

If that's true, then it still doesn't make sense why you won't admit your role in their deaths to the Indian government. After all, hundreds of people are working very hard to try to understand the physical cause of the derailment and how to make those tracks safer.

If you are right and people deserve death for their crimes against you, it seems the very least you could do is own up to it.

Otherwise, as an unrepentant murderer, you really don't deserve help, do you? Or you might admit that you had nothing whatsoever to do with a train accident thousands of miles from you. I really see no middle ground.
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Don't focus too much on a single incident, Loss Leader (even if it is serious), the world is very big, and my telepathic waves may have some positive effects too, sometimes.

Today, the British people, the Palestinians and the whole world learnt two good (pieces of) news, that I welcome. First, the British Supreme Court decided that the British Parliament must first give its approval, in a vote, before the British government can start the process of exiting the European Union, see http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-38720320 (I had been thinking about this issue quite a bit recently, I live in the European Union, not far from the UK). Secondly, the Obama administration, in its last days, decided to send $221 million to the Palestinians, see http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...21m-to-palestinians-in-obamas-last-hours.html . I had posted about the Palestinian issue (see e.g. http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?postid=11648158#post11648158 , http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?postid=11648247#post11648247 ). The number "221" might be related to my birthday (22 February), number "1" may convey an idea of excellence.

I would hope that Obama's successor Donald J. Trump will be more than some kind of dangerous clown with the nuclear codes ;) , and that he will realize early enough, that helping the Palestinians is one of the best ways to achieve esteem and respect among his (not her! ;) ) international colleagues, and to protect his fellow citizens from the risk of terrorist attacks.
 
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Michel H said:
Don't focus too much on a single incident, Loss Leader (even if it is serious), the world is very big, and my telepathic waves may have some positive effects too, sometimes.

Today, the British people, the Palestinians and the whole world learnt two good (pieces of) news, that I welcome. First, the British Supreme Court decided that the British Parliament must first give its approval, in a vote, before the British government can start the process of exiting the European Union, see http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-38720320 (I had been thinking about this issue quite a bit recently, I live in the European Union, not far from the UK). Secondly, the Obama administration, in its last days, decided to send $221 million to the Palestinians, see http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...21m-to-palestinians-in-obamas-last-hours.html . I had posted about the Palestinian issue (see e.g. http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?postid=11648158#post11648158 , http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?postid=11648247#post11648247 ). The number "221" might be related to my birthday (22 February), number "1" may convey an idea of excellence.

I would hope that Obama's successor Donald J. Trump will be more than some kind of dangerous clown with the nuclear codes ;) , and that he will realize early enough, that helping the Palestinians is one of the best ways to achieve esteem and respect among his (not her! ;) ) international colleagues, and to protect his fellow citizens from the risk of terrorist attacks.
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You murdered 39 people and you won't even let their government know. Call the Palestinian Authority and take credit for a payment that was set up months ago. But at least let the poor families of your murder victims know what you did to them.

Maybe if people realized you were killing them for their "crimes" of not helping you, they'd be more inclined to, you know, help you.

Otherwise it's just cold- blooded murder.
 
Loss Leader said:
You murdered 39 people and you won't even let their government know. Call the Palestinian Authority and take credit for a payment that was set up months ago. But at least let the poor families of your murder victims know what you did to them.

Maybe if people realized you were killing them for their "crimes" of not helping you, they'd be more inclined to, you know, help you.

Otherwise it's just cold- blooded murder.
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I have a genuine concern that you're more likely to convince him he's a mass murderer than that he's irrational, even though to everyone but him only the latter is plausible.
 
Bladesman87 said:
I have a genuine concern that you're more likely to convince him he's a mass murderer than that he's irrational, even though to everyone but him only the latter is plausible.
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He chooses to think of himself as a murderer. If he wants to think of himself in better terms, he knows exactly whom to ask for help.
 
Hi Michel,

As I said before, I suffer from schizo-affective. I went through the same belief as you. I thought God had chosen me as his messenger. Like you, I thought I can do thought broadcasting, thought insertions and had grand delusions.

I believed without doubt that my thoughts can affect events. Eventually, I thought that that I might accidentally bring harm to my love ones. It was a frightening experience. I would hit my head against the wall to get rid of the thoughts. Several times, I tried to commit suicide in the belief that that is the only way to ensure no harm would come to them.

Michael, I acknowledge that the thought of being special without a single ounce of doubt is the best feeling in the world, but with it is the danger to yourself and to your love ones.

Please see a medical professional before you bring harm to yourself and others you care about.
 
Loss Leader said:
He chooses to think of himself as a murderer. If he wants to think of himself in better terms, he knows exactly whom to ask for help.
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I share the concern that this approach will cause more harm than good. Please think carefully about what you may be doing.
 
AdMan said:
I share the concern that this approach will cause more harm than good. Please think carefully about what you may be doing.
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Too late to edit my post, but I want to add:

...to someone who is obviously not thinking rationally.
 
I kept quiet about what I was thinking about just in case. . .

I am however going to report that I did not see Christina Ricci and I had an uninterrupted nights sleep.:mad:
 
Loss Leader said:
He chooses to think of himself as a murderer. If he wants to think of himself in better terms, he knows exactly whom to ask for help.
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Unfortunately, and this is assuming he's honest in this thread about his experiences, people with the symptoms he has don't choose any of this. If they're lucky they see the problems in their life at a time when they still have enough clarity left to seek help. Often, when they don't, the results are catastrophic.
 
Bladesman87 said:
Unfortunately, and this is assuming he's honest in this thread about his experiences, people with the symptoms he has don't choose any of this. If they're lucky they see the problems in their life at a time when they still have enough clarity left to seek help. Often, when they don't, the results are catastrophic.
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First, nothing whatsoever that we say in this thread - good, bad or indifferent - will have any effect on the OP whatsoever.

Second, when I thought Michel was a young man disconnected from his family, I was very worried about him. However, he appears to be a man in his fifties who has spent decades like this. Whatever he's doing, he's stable enough to stay out of an institution.
 
A new telepathy test: which word did I write?

I recently wrote and circled one of the four words: "thoughts", "transmitted", "real", and "uncontrollable" on my paper.

I ask you to write it here (if you think you might know it).

Thank you for participating.
 
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