Obama commutes Chelsea Manning sentence.

[theprestige]

I will laugh if Trump pardons Assange ... and cites this as precedent.

Assange hasn't been convicted of any crimes.

 

[Joey McGee]

Assange hasn't been convicted of any crimes.

Will you argue with me about how he is an enemy of not being raped and not being compromised by the Kremlin?

 

[BobTheCoward]

Assange hasn't been convicted of any crimes.

Does the US even have a warrant for his arrest?

 

[theprestige]

Will you argue with me about how he is an enemy of not being raped and not being compromised by the Kremlin?

Dude, I will not argue with you about anything.

 

[theprestige]

Does the US even have a warrant for his arrest?

The US doesn't even have a Warrant for his sweet Cherry Pie.

 

[Noztradamus]

I will laugh if Trump pardons Assange ... and cites this as precedent.

I will laugh at the excuse to not go to Sweden that Assange comes up with if Trump pardons him.

 

[theprestige]

Regardless of whatever additional spin people wish to put on this, for the moment I would hope we could focus on the Collateral Murder tape that Manning enabled us to see, and thank God the end of the savage punishment has come.

Whatever additional spin, you want to make sure we focus on your favorite spin?

 

[Reheat]

This is a very complicated issue and not one that's going to be resolved by those who have not ever been in combat commenting on the video's accuracy of depicting anything.

Manning should never have been in the US Army in the first place. He was obviously unfit. That's precisely why Obama should not have have used it for a social experiment.

This is a lesson for journalists who go around "free lance" on the battlefield of their own accord. They are responsible for what happens to them, not those who might mistake them or their equipment for enemy combatants or their possession of weapons.

You don't like it. Then don't ever send the US Military into War. This sort of **** happens. US Military Commanders do everything they possible can to avoid civilian casualties, but sometimes it is simply not avoidable.

For aviators, both Helicopters and fast moving jet operators, their worst nightmare is killing or injuring their own soldiers. This happens too.

This will be my only post in this thread. I have better things to do today than argue with a bunch of mostly people who know nothing about armed combat.

I disagree with Obama's pardon of Manning. He should not have been there, but he was. Based on what I know about him, he knew right from wrong. He should have been executed then we wouldn't have had to have this discussion about pardoning him...

 

[plague311]

This will be my only post in this thread. I have better things to do today than argue with a bunch of mostly people who know nothing about armed combat.

That's not bad, it's not even a thinly veiled appeal to personal authority.

Your complete lack of regard for human life is a little bit scary. He made a mistake, and your post is a strange combination of "he shouldn't have been there, so let's kill him because we failed earlier on in the process." I bet you don't hold gun stores responsible for people that go out and shoot people though, do you? See where I'm going with this? It's a double standard thing.

 

[Puppycow]

As seen on Twitter:

It's a commutation, not a pardon. Seven years in prison, much of it in solitary.

 

[Mumbles]

It's a commutation, not a pardon. Seven years in prison, much of it in solitary.

The difference, just to be clear: A pardon basically means that you're free and clear, and considered not guilty. A commutation means that you are still considered guilty, but you'll serve less time than was originally given to you.

 

[marplots]

Why does he have to wait till May?

 

[BobTheCoward]

Why does he have to wait till May?

Maybe because the trial started beginning of June?

 

[Ryokan]

That's what I was trying to convey by posting the wiki link but some people have no patience or respect for due diligence so yeah read the *********** wiki article and then... i dont care after that

The USA cleared itself. Do you think the rest of the world is impressed?

 

[Ryokan]

This is a very complicated issue and not one that's going to be resolved by those who have not ever been in combat commenting on the video's accuracy of depicting anything.

This is a lesson for journalists who go around "free lance" on the battlefield of their own accord. They are responsible for what happens to them, not those who might mistake them or their equipment for enemy combatants or their possession of weapons.

You don't like it. Then don't ever send the US Military into War. This sort of **** happens. US Military Commanders do everything they possible can to avoid civilian casualties, but sometimes it is simply not avoidable.

For aviators, both Helicopters and fast moving jet operators, their worst nightmare is killing or injuring their own soldiers. This happens too.

This will be my only post in this thread. I have better things to do today than argue with a bunch of mostly people who know nothing about armed combat.

Yes, focus on the one thing that was ambiguous. Don't focus on what happened afterwards. When they shot at people who obviously came to the scene to render assistance. Or did you forget that part?

 

[Ryokan]

*********** ********

THAT ARTICLE SHOULD BE FIRED

http://www.macleans.ca/politics/washington/is-donald-trump-a-russian-agent/

HIRE THIS ARTICLE

Will you laugh if he lets a Russian agent into the White House because he is a LITERAL *********** RUBE

????????????????????????????????????????????????

I MEAN EVERY *********** ONE OF THOSE QUESTION MARKS

p.s. someone will miss the irony i have to do this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruble

HAHAHA https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/July_12,_2007_Baghdad_airstrike

Pushing an open door That's just a ******* crazy lie.

LOL you are sitting there in your living room thinking that the good will of Obama sparing this mental child a lifetime of suffering means that your ****** and half baked conspiracy theories are true? *********** funny ************

Why do people come here trying to vent? It's like trying to go for reassurance from Dr. Phil. HILARIOUS

Dude. If there's anyone venting in this thread, it's you. Seriously, please try to calm your nerves. That kind of ranting can't be healthy for you.

 

[marplots]

Maybe because the trial started beginning of June?

I always assumed that when you got pardoned, they just walked you out right then. Like when they pardoned Rambo for that other secret operation.

 

[Darth Rotor]

The difference, just to be clear: A pardon basically means that you're free and clear, and considered not guilty. A commutation means that you are still considered guilty, but you'll serve less time than was originally given to you.

Thank you for reminding folks of that, and that's why I am not too bothered about this. As Reheat said, my gut feel due to the damage he did is that he should have been executed -- but that was NOT his sentence and I don't get a vote on that. He either rots in prison a while longer, or doesn't. Plenty of folks in high office have done a variety of bad crap and didn't do any jail time.

The President can do this, and did. That's how it works, next item.

 

[marplots]

Thank you for reminding folks of that, and that's why I am not too bothered about this. As Reheat said, my gut feel due to the damage he did is that he should have been executed -- but that was NOT his sentence and I don't get a vote on that. He either rots in prison a while longer, or doesn't. Plenty of folks in high office have done a variety of bad crap and didn't do any jail time.

The President can do this, and did. That's how it works, next item.

He's a she now.

 

[theprestige]

He's a she now.

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