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Reheat said:
While I respect Lewis for his 1960's historic activity, to call Trump an illegitimate President Elect is shameful and borderline treasonous.
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Oh, for gawd's sake, Reheat, get a grip. It was an exaggeration, nothing more. It's along the same lines as calling Obama unamerican or calling for Clinton to be jailed - both of which happened thousands of times. And worse.

So Lewis gets in a counter dig. Once. And you go "borderline" bonkers. Given your evident skill at exaggeration, you should have seen Lewis as a fellow exagerrationist.
 
logger said:
You're clueless about politics. Who gives s damn about reaching out to the fools who voted against him. They have zero power, and they will never vote for Trump. They need to be defeated not courted or compromised with.
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You're clueless about politics. The President is the president of all of America. It's his job title. It's necessary for him to include those who didn't vote for him in his policy-making. If you don't know that, you're more than clueless.
 
logger said:
... and yes his district is crime ridden, just like every district the left has control of...,.
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Wow! I'm impressed that you've looked at all the crime statistics of all the Dem-controlled districts and compared those statistics to national averages. Could you maybe give us some details of that extensive analysis?
 
logger said:
Lets not forget Trump isn't in control of what Russia did, nor is he in control of how stupid Clinton and the DNC was.
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Why, you're correct! Trump is only in control of what he says he believes: the US intelligence agencies are wrong, and the Russians (claiming they interfered with the election not at all) are right!
 
Reheat said:
However, I do disagree that it should be screened by his advisors, but contend that he should have enough self discipline that his twitter account doesn't need screening.
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And I contend that you should give me all your money and that nice airplane in your avatar. Both have the same likelihood of coming to pass.

Reheat said:
In addition, I'll also contend that there's been more division and divisiveness during the past 8 years of the Obama Administration that in all of the history of the US, except for the period leading up to the Civil War. I don't think any of us want to repeat that.
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Your memory - or your bias, I don't know which - is failng you. The 60s and 70s era with their Viet Nam protests, Nixon and Watergate and corruption at the federal level (remember Agnew?) were far, far worse. People died protesting. I'm sure I don't have to remind you of Kent State.

How many protesters died while Obama was in office? How many huge marches took place in cities around the country on virtually a monthly basis?

I firmly reject both of your contentions.

ETA: I see that others covered this quite adequately.
 
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Fast Eddie B said:
This post summarizes the elitism shown by many on the left - voting for Trump, by itself, marks you as a lesser person, and one they feel in a perfect world they would not even want to vote, allowing the "better" side to rule.
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I could sign on if you had said "some" instead of "many". That said, his post was over the top.
 
Regnad Kcin said:
Why, you're correct! Trump is only in control of what he says he believes: the US intelligence agencies are wrong, and the Russians (claiming they interfered with the election not at all) are right!
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He doesn't say he believes that any more. After an arm twisting from the intelligence agencies, he now admits the Russian meddling, but stated publicly that it was a good thing because (lies about Clinton), which benefited Trump electorally.

Narcissistic personality disorder. Everything is all about Him. Even when a hostile foreign power is chopping away at the foundations. Nothing matters except His personal success.
 
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BobTheCoward said:
But meaningless. A president that gets 80% of the vote and has there policies enacted is just as democratically legitimate as one who does the same with 50.1%. if the latter's strategy is to only serve that 50.1%, it makes no difference. That is democracy.
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Maybe you and logger can carpool to the democracy class he is going to take.
 
sunmaster14 said:
First, John Lewis is a disgraceful partisan hack. He also claimed that George W. Bush was an illegitimate President. Personally, I think that kind of talk by a sitting member of Congress should be officially censured, but apparently Democrats, particularly "civil rights icons," get passes on inflammatory rhetoric.
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Nonsense. I'll give you an example of talk that not only should be censured but roundly condemned by Republicans:

McConnell: Our only objective will be to make Obama a one-term president.

The current pissing contest between Trump and Lewis isn't going to hurt anyone. McConnell has routinely put party ahead of country, hurting a lot of people. Your talk censure meter is broken.
 
sunmaster14 said:
The main issue Donald Trump ran on was to be not Hillary Clinton.
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Completely agree. He core basis for winning was FEAR. Fear of the brown man taking his job. Fear of the black man being equal. Fear of elitist scientists. In fact, fear of all pointy-headed people of any expertise. Fear of regulations. Fear for jobs in coal mines (which Trump can't do anything about).

And it worked. Fear is an extremely powerful emotion.
 
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