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[Shiner]

I know many of you have asked why BrLP didn't come out with a SunCell decades ago when they first announced the discovery of the hydrino.

During this Dec 16th 2016 lecture in the UK, Mills discusses the process of invention that lead up to the creation of the SunCell.

https://youtu.be/CtA4FdRrCkY?t=2745

This was a long iterative process that slowly evolved over several decades as experiment and theory allowed for steady progress to be made. Most of the long delay came down to achieving an adequate power density that would make power generation economically feasible.

More assertion via YouTube? That's where all the serious investors go for their info .......

I asked what I consider to be a very simple question about the aapparent cooling system. What does it do?

 

[bruto]

One of the other things that somehow has not occurred is the exploitation of hydrinos by anyone else. Even if we can somehow presume that Mills et al have managed to husband a great secret for all these years, their basic idea that such a thing is possible is public enough. It would seem so huge and so lucrative that scores of scientists, inventors, consortia and syndicates would be toiling away at the task of figuring it out. An idea that turns conventional physics on its head, guarantees fame and fortune and changes the world. And yet, no hydrinos. How odd.

 

[jaydeehess]

I know many of you have asked why BrLP didn't come out with a SunCell decades ago when they first announced the discovery of the hydrino.

During this Dec 16th 2016 lecture in the UK, Mills discusses the process of invention that lead up to the creation of the SunCell.

https://youtu.be/CtA4FdRrCkY?t=2745

This was a long iterative process that slowly evolved over several decades as experiment and theory allowed for steady progress to be made. Most of the long delay came down to achieving an adequate power density that would make power generation economically feasible.

There is a trait among politicians that has them rephrase questions put to tgem.The question asked in this thread has been, as explained by several posters, why is it that over deacdes now there has almost continuously been a ready to go production device that actually never materializes?

Another trait of politicians is taking questions and then responding without actually adderssing the question.

These traits are shared by another type of person, the fraudster.

 

[ferd burfle]

To complete the picture, be sure to take a look at this video

Mills here sounds to me like he's laying down a fog of pure double-talk (to use a polite term); if I was a potential investor doing due diligence I'd be clutching my wallet tight with both hands. But my technical grasp is weak: what do the physicists and engineers here make of this?


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[Horatius]

Indeed. Just look at some of the comments in the comment section below the youtube video Michael linked to (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NfGgHD8e9sM) showing the out of focus bright thing that's suppose to represent something significant.

One thing I'm sure both Mills and I would agree on (if we could get him to speak the truth) is, "There's one born every minute..."

 

[aleCcowaN]

"Yeah, this is great and all, 852 feet, but until we can fly a few hundred people at once, non-stop, between the US and Europe, we might as well not even try to sell even one airplane." - The Wright Brothers, Never.

Chapeau!

Stronger with the addition of "... but we'll make a video explaining our reasons and showing working prototypes and a piece of our new tail wing"



Wilbur - Orville! Come'ere! I need you!
Orville - Wait! I'm still writing my acceptance speech for that new prize ... that Swedish dynamite guy's.

 

[Lukraak_Sisser]

I'm amazed at the amount of magic involved in the system.

Silver electrodes... yeah, because electrons care what conducts them.
Putting in energy to move an electron to a LOWER orbital, even though in all other cases in nature that shifts an electron to a higher orbital.
A lower orbital that is unobserved in nature and apparently specific to hydrogen without any explanation why other elements lack this lower orbital.
A way to gain net usable energy without fusion/fission


What always saddens me is that the money being used to buy the inventor new houses/cars/boats while achieving nothing could have been used to fund actual research into alternative energy sources.

 

[Aepervius]

One of the other things that somehow has not occurred is the exploitation of hydrinos by anyone else. Even if we can somehow presume that Mills et al have managed to husband a great secret for all these years, their basic idea that such a thing is possible is public enough. It would seem so huge and so lucrative that scores of scientists, inventors, consortia and syndicates would be toiling away at the task of figuring it out. An idea that turns conventional physics on its head, guarantees fame and fortune and changes the world. And yet, no hydrinos. How odd.

That is an excellent point, he tells us various uni verified the result, have article, and NONE of the involveöd scientist go for nobel price for a new stare of matter. Nearly no article publidhed dince 2005 ?

If this was real ALL involved would publish a lot of study, environment impact, cross section in various situation, long term effeöcT and i pass many others. But NOTHING happened. Not even von mills team, and a nobel price would be the greatest advertising.

The most logical conclusion, as with other ooints of this story, is that it is a scam, they have nothing.

 

[tableplay]

At this point, the only question I have is what will BLP be renamed to after the dormancy period ?

 

[aleCcowaN]

Bronco Brilliant Black Light Power?

 

[jaydeehess]

A way to gain net usable energy without fusion/fission

Good point. Moving electrons between orbitals gives us neon lights, but certainly not net energy.

 

[aleCcowaN]

michaelsuede knows his Dale Carnegie BS very well...

I know many of you have asked why BrLP didn't come out with a SunCell decades ago when they first announced the discovery of the hydrino.

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Did anyone here ask that? Please, identify yourself or quote the post where a different user asked something related to that.

Thank you in advance for your contribution to sanitize this thread.

 

[halleyscomet]

michaelsuede knows his Dale Carnegie BS very well...



Do anyone here asked that? Please, identify yourself or quote the post where a different user asked something related to that.

Thank you in advance for your contribution to sanitize this thread.

It's clearly inspired by the questions about why they didn't monetize the heat generation capabilities of the alleged generator decades ago, but the question he answered is not one I recall anyone asking.

 

[Roboramma]

Soon followed by massive economic upheaval, the worst recession in history, the breakdown of civil society and quite possibly World War 3.
Luckily it's the ridiculous fantasy if a fraudster.

Because?

 

[Andy_Ross]

Because?

Entire national economies based on the sale of oil and gas will collapse?

 

[aleCcowaN]

Entire national economies based on the sale of oil and gas will collapse?

Exactly, la sinarquía internacional* won't allow it to succeed, that's why an army of hackers -the same ones that enabled Trump's win- continue to replace meaningful youtube videos with shiny pebbles and personal excuses, like the ones above, and meaningful papers explaining and backing both physics and technology with the kind of blabber michaelsuede provides in spades.

* "the international synarchy™" is supposed to control and manipulate international politics so Latin America, Africa and Southern Asia can be stripped of their future of grandness they would enjoy had they left alone. Nobody says who they are, but I have a friend who has a very good source and they are the Queen of England, Donald Trump, Montgomery Burns and a bunch of mostly Jewish Bankers led by the Baron of Rothschild and Roque Feller.

 

[JeanTate]

TBH, I'm often surprised at the ignorance of a particular field of science, from some scientists in a (reasonably) closely related field. I'm not sure if it might be due to having to concentrate so much of their careers on a particular field, that they can't see the wood for the trees.

{snip}

With the chaps mentioned in your post, I'm wondering how much of what Mills is claiming to be doing that they fully understand. The other alternative is that they do understand, and it is either a) legit, or b) it isn't, but they are in it for what they can make out of it.

b) is not a particularly appetising thought.

I suspect that answer to that is "actually very little". Mills has spent almost 30 years producing literally thousands of pages of scientific-sounding gobbledygook. Most people who have sat down and tried to parse out what he's actually saying have admitted that it make little or no sense to them. But of course, we all know at least one Cliff Claven type who insists he understands everything, no matter what.

{snip}

From my reading so far, the key Mills et al. claims are 1) the existence of "hydrinos", hydrogen atoms in fractional quantum states; and 2) the creation of hydrinos in a very particular kind of physical regime (I don't understand this much, but I think it involves some combination of electric fields, temperature, pressure, and the presence of one or more catalysts)*.

Per Mills+, 1) requires at least an extensive modification to textbook QM. From what I've read so far, essentially no one has published a paper supporting this. And I suspect that the tens of thousands of people who understand the relevant parts of QM well enough and who might read the relevant Mills+ papers (would) fairly quickly conclude(d) that it's yet one more piece of crackpot nonsense. I'd be very surprised if Prof Booker (UNC Asheville) reached a very different conclusion (Prof Ramanujachary? I don't know).

Re 2): I think the part of physics which, today, involves experiments in similar regimes is small and obscure; the number of people who have relevant experience is small. Not that it's particularly difficult understand, nor that the experiments themselves are particularly challenging or expensive, but there is certainly a significant learning curve. I suspect that most scientists in this small community would have been aware of Mills+ papers (or at least some of them); some did write papers about this topic, but apparently no one was able to reproduce Mills+ results, or they disagreed with his conclusions (I'll post links to some of these papers later). I doubt that either Prof Booker or Prof Ramanujachary has relevant experimental experience (but I'll be checking their published papers, just to be sure).

It might be interesting to look at some instances of "revolutionary" discoveries in the last hundred years or so, in physics and closely related fields; how was the reaction of the immediate (small) community of physicists different from that to Mills+, how was it similar? While no substitute for one's own due diligence (or "done their homework like I have", as ms says in the OP), I think looking carefully at the responses of scientists who are familiar with the topic and who would have an enormous amount to gain if Mills+ claims panned out should be very instructive.

* "reacting a very tiny amount of hydrogen with a silver catalyst and then exposing that reaction to an electrical discharge. When the hydrogen, silver and electrical discharge combine, the hydrogen atoms shrink, releasing a tremendous amount of energy in the process", as ms puts it in the OP

 

[aleCcowaN]

Does somebody know about a single person that has patented one or many law of Physics? This discussion occurs just on technical grounds and there's no hydrino-making process that provides them for further investigation. Has Mills offered a "sample of hydrinos" to anybody or, better put, a viable system to generate them?

 

[Horatius]

Does somebody know about a single person that has patented one or many law of Physics? This discussion occurs just on technical grounds and there's no hydrino-making process that provides them for further investigation. Has Mills offered a "sample of hydrinos" to anybody or, better put, a viable system to generate them?

You generally can't patent a "law of physics". Patentable subject matter is defined in the US as "any new and useful process, machine, manufacture, or composition of matter, or any new and useful improvement thereof", with most jurisdictions having similar rules. A natural law like F=ma doesn't generally fall into any of those categories.

The "composition of matter" part suggests that the hydrinos themselves are potentially patentable, but there's a caveat: "A more common example of an application that is rejected because the invention lacks utility is an application for a composition of matter with no known use other than the investigation of the properties of the composition. The same reason was used recently in rejecting an application filed by the National Institutes of Health for a collection of DNA sequences that had been isolated and identified by its investigators."

Mills hasn't shown any particular utility for the hydrinos in and of themselves, and as such would likely be barred from patenting them directly.

As far as I know, he also hasn't made samples of hydrinos generally available for research, or any other purpose.

 

[Dr.Sid]

As far as I know, he also hasn't made samples of hydrinos generally available for research, or any other purpose.

Well obviously .. why would he do that ? Where's profit in that ? Especially since you don't have any hydrinos in the first place ..