Brilliant Light Power Going To Market - Free Energy Generator

[MikeG]

.......I'm opposed to all patent and copyright laws.

Oh, Jesus H.............please spare us. You'd put every small architect out of business, for starters.

 

[Darat]

michaelsuede has done an excellent job of diverting from the questions he and Mills can't answer by harping on about patents.

The question remains that since Mills has been able to control this reaction and create a hell of a lot of heat for apparently decades why it isn't in some form already on the market?

There hasn't been any reason for it not going to market since he had his first "generator" up and running, unless of course it simply does not work as he claims it does.

 

[RussDill]

Getting my envelope out again for a minute or two. If we take the two indicated peaks (from the spectrum in the first image quoted) as the transition modes to the sub ground state Hydrino (15 nm and 25 nm). We get about 13.2 atto (10^-18) Joule and 7.95 atto Joule. If we consider them combined transitions to the sub ground state we get 21.2 atto Joule per Hydrino production. Considering just the stated waste energy of 250 kw we get 11.8 zetta (10 ²¹) hydrogen to Hydrino transitions per second. Avogadro's number gives us about 7 grams per second of fuel (hydrogen) to waste product (Hydrino). That's 608 kg per day just of wasted fuel to waste product.

Was wondering about this myself. The amount of energy released by the electron of a hydrogen atom going from its second lowest state to it's ground state is really small. Can't imagine going down one more state would be very large either. Seems like a lousy way to get energy if you have to keep getting more hydrogen.

 

[Dave Rogers]

The question remains that since Mills has been able to control this reaction and create a hell of a lot of heat for apparently decades why it isn't in some form already on the market?

Clearly, because a group of skeptics on an obscure discussion forum don't agree with the physical principles behind it.

I think it's more because you don't want any challenges to standing theory actually making it into the market.

It's been working for 15 years with 9/11 conspiracy theories, and for even longer with hydrino technology even though we haven't been discussing it. We're just that powerful.

Dave

 

[aleCcowaN]

... I'm opposed to all patent and copyright laws.

I understand the law perfectly fine, as is evidenced by your numerous straw-men attempting to discredit my statements.

I refer you Mr. Libertarian himself:

I'm not fan of Rand, who was grossly mistaken in her beliefs about IP.

Edited by Agatha: 

Edited to remove breach of rule 0 and rule 12

 

[Andy_Ross]

Would a hydrino be stable at all. Lack if any evidence that a hydrino has ever been found, or detected would suggest thst any that if any are created are jumping back to hydrogen, Maybe you only need to fill the generator up once and it's sekf fuelling, recycling the same hydrogen?

 

[aleCcowaN]

The story of hydrino is like Jesus': invent a good one and you'll live off of it forever.

 

[Porpoise of Life]

All this talk about patents is a smoke screen.

The facts are: The device as described violates the known laws of physics.
There is no working prototype.

They claim the former is true, but that they haven't bothered with providing any evidence, even though this would ensure all the funding they'd ever need.
They claim the latter is false, and they've had working prototypes for decades, they've just decided not to monetize their groundbreaking discovery because of reasons.

They are running an incredibly transparent scam.

OP is all over the place. On the one hand he appears to believe BLP's claims, on the other hand he keeps derailing the discussion when he knows he doesn't have an answer, and he has stated that we shouldn't worry about people being fleeced, because only accredited investors would lose money. Like a willing participant in a scam might do.

 

[LTC8K6]

Carl Tilley rides again...

 

[halleyscomet]

I want to thank everyone offering me feedback in the likely properties of the hydrino as described by Mills.

I want to clarify my goal in the depiction of hydrinos in the story. I'm not looking to use them as a boogeyman for a sci-fi body horror story. The goal is to take the theory seriously and explore what the properties and environmental risks would be of this byproduct if the theory is accurate. Because of this, I need the science of what I'm doing to adhere as closely as possible to the theory as described by Mills.

Clearly, the claims of the hydrino being inert are ********. There's nothing in the thery suggesting they could even BE inert. It's incompetent hand-waving at best, outright deception at worst. These things will be at least as reactive as regular hydrogen with the added bonus of being unstable. It's the nature of that instability I need to figure out. From there I can figure out the kind of damage they could cause.

 

[marplots]

I think I've got it. Hydrinos are made out of money.

 

[aleCcowaN]

What baffles me the most is that, taking each exact historical and cultural context, a wild claim made by any deranged alchemist in the twelfth century would be much more reasonable than what this BrPL -don't mix them up with BlPL- people is telling.

EDIT: It reminded me how Rudolf II was wasting so much money financing alchemy that he couldn't pay salaries to the rest of the court, including Tycho Brahe. And we're talking of an "accredited investor" around 1600.

 

[MikeG]

I think I've got it. Hydrinos are made out of money.

I think you may have that the wrong way around.

 

[aleCcowaN]

There's an accredited investor born every minute.

 

[MikeG]

........Clearly, the claims of the hydrino being inert.......

You appear with this language to tacitly accept their existence, or possible existence.

 

[Andy_Ross]

Hydrenos are Anti Money*. Investors give the money to BLP and it disappears.

*Not to be confused with Antimony

 

[Dave Rogers]

You appear with this language to tacitly accept their existence, or possible existence.

Not sure about that. If I said, "Clearly, the claims about unicorns emitting ultraviolet light are ********," this could be encompassed by the more general principle that any claims about unicorns are ********.

Dave

 

[Dave Rogers]

I want to clarify my goal in the depiction of hydrinos in the story. I'm not looking to use them as a boogeyman for a sci-fi body horror story. The goal is to take the theory seriously and explore what the properties and environmental risks would be of this byproduct if the theory is accurate. Because of this, I need the science of what I'm doing to adhere as closely as possible to the theory as described by Mills.

Have you read Asimov's "The Gods Themselves"? If not, I would suggest you do so, for two reasons:
(1) To make sure you don't end up writing it again; and,
(2) Dude, it's Asimov.

Dave

 

[jaydeehess]

That is a cool notion. I guess we'll have to decide if our Fictional Hydrinos (but I repeat myself!) have only one state below the traditional Ground State, or whether then have additional fractional states as Mills claims in his patent applications. Which has more dramatic effect?

Yeah, I saw the additional fractional states that Mills puts forth.
Can only go so far, then the volume of influence of the electron will be directly interfering with that of the proton.
For sake of simplicity our oxymoronic fictional hydrino should have only the one lower state, make it 1/2 the #1 orbit. ( after all we have spin states denoted by the fraction 1/2, for a science-y tie in.)

BTW love the "Watts from Jesus" angle.
50 MegaJesuswatts versus the Satanic forces of resistance.

 

[BStrong]

I hope you're right.

It would be a shame if Mills is able to maintain a monopoly on the tech for a decade. I'm opposed to all patent and copyright laws.

We had a term to describe folks like you back in the old neighborhood, but the MA prohibits me from posting it.

As far as the BLP, it sounds more like the self adjusting shock absorber than the electric light.