Brilliant Light Power Going To Market - Free Energy Generator

[Darat]

I said the heat Mills generator produced was equivalent to a BMW revving its engines at neutral.

Then I proceeded to show that Mills generator was producing 250 kw of waste heat.

...snip...

Then why hasn't he undertaken the very simple experiments that would show his generator works as he claims?

 

[Darat]

They did that. It's called a bomb calorimetry test. Several these were done by different university professors who acted as validators. You can watch the video in the OP to see it being done yourself.

I have seen the video and it's the usual smoke and mirrors - the "test" is over complicated and with "black boxes". He literally could prove this beyond a shadow of doubt by a simple experiment run entirely by someone else. The reason or the way it works is totally irrelevant to all of this. His new physics may be entirely wrong (or right) but if it works it works.

If it produces heat with pretty much zero running costs he needed no further development to have it on the market or for him to dictate terms of licensing it to other companies and so on.

That has to lead to the question of why isn't his generator on the market now? Or 5 years ago or 10 years ago or 15 or 20 years ago?

 

[Dave Rogers]

I'm not too concerned.

I think Mills will beat the timeline established by a fair margin actually.

So are you prepared to bet on it? If you don't want to risk your money, how about an avatar bet? I propose that, if a commercial product based on hydrino technology is not available by the 10th July 2018, you will for the following six months display an avatar containing the clearly legible words "I am a gullible idiot", and that if it is, I will for the following six months display an avatar containing the clearly legible words "I am an arrogant fool". Up for that?

Dave

 

[Andy_Ross]

I have seen the video and it's the usual smoke and mirrors - the "test" is over complicated and with "black boxes". He literally could prove this beyond a shadow of doubt by a simple experiment run entirely by someone else. The reason or the way it works is totally irrelevant to all of this. His new physics may be entirely wrong (or right) but if it works it works.

If it produces heat with pretty much zero running costs he needed no further development to have it on the market or for him to dictate terms of licensing it to other companies and so on.

That has to lead to the question of why isn't his generator on the market now? Or 5 years ago or 10 years ago or 15 or 20 years ago?

This indeed. He claims to have had workung examples many years ago but keeps putting off releasing working examples to develop better models.
Has any company ever done this in the past?
Using this business model we wouldn't have laptops or airliners.

 

[Sideroxylon]

This indeed. He claims to have had workung examples many years ago but keeps putting off releasing working examples to develop better models.
Has any company ever done this in the past?
Using this business model we wouldn't have laptops or airliners.

Other great technological or conceptual leaps have been hit upon by more than one discoverer. Delay meant you miss out on the glory and money.

And throw in international competition. Would the Chinese sit by?

 

[LTC8K6]

Except a BMW is a demonstrated generator of power?

Yes, and the BMW has a newfangled thing called gears, which makes peak power rarely necessary to get it's work done.

 

[Aepervius]

*neutral

*And it's 250, not 260.

Ovens work by heat transference through convection, conduction and radiation.

As do *EVERY* heat transfer whatsoever.

You did not answer the question.

Air may have a low thermal conductivity but it does heat with time. In fact if it did not , we would use radiators/heaters in winter.

At 250 kW (or 260 who cares it is an order of magnitude) the sucker would most probably dump far more in EM as in either other transfert, and that much would quite a spectacle to behold. Or be grilled with.

 

[Aepervius]

And frankly if he REALLY had such an object, he could revolutionize the world of heating house overnight. He would not need "research" "tweaking" or whatnot. An object being able to generate so much energy, for nearly no money, would be an insta success.

Now ask yourself why he does not do that...

 

[MikeG]

.....At 250 kW (or 260 who cares it is an order of magnitude) the sucker would most probably dump far more in EM as in either other transfert, and that much would quite a spectacle to behold. Or be grilled with.

As I said before, you'd forget the silly bulb thingy, and use the heat to super-heat steam to run a turbine. (OK, I said use a Stirling engine or an old steam engine, but I was just making the point with an exaggeration).

 

[abaddon]

*neutral

*And it's 250, not 260.

Ovens work by heat transference through convection, conduction and radiation.

Even neutral it is impossible to idle and rev at the same time.

250/260 big deal.

What is the MEDIUM for heat transfer in an oven?

 

[halleyscomet]

And frankly if he REALLY had such an object, he could revolutionize the world of heating house overnight. He would not need "research" "tweaking" or whatnot. An object being able to generate so much energy, for nearly no money, would be an insta success.

Now ask yourself why he does not do that...

As I said before, you'd forget the silly bulb thingy, and use the heat to super-heat steam to run a turbine. (OK, I said use a Stirling engine or an old steam engine, but I was just making the point with an exaggeration).

He wouldn't NEED any backers or investors if he just sold them as heaters. One of those puppies could provide all the hot air and hot water anything short of a skyscraper could ever need. Home and water heating accounts for a HUGE percentage of the fossil fuel consumption on the planet.

Either it doesn't work or hydrinos are toxic and they're trying to cover that up while they work on containment technology. There are no other explanations for the lack of monetization of the current tech.

 

[Horatius]

Other great technological or conceptual leaps have been hit upon by more than one discoverer. Delay meant you miss out on the glory and money.

And throw in international competition. Would the Chinese sit by?

Yeah, this. Anyone who has seen the photos of air pollution in China recently knows that they're paying a huge environmental cost for their economic growth of the last several decades. Even Mills' old systems that were presumably ready for market in 2008/9 would eliminate China's needs for coal and oil, and clean up their air overnight.

So why hasn't China done that? Why hasn't any third world country done that? With a developing market for carbon credits and the like, converting your entire energy grid to something that emits no carbon at all would be a huge, no-strings-attached, infusion of hard cash into countries that desperately need it. So why haven't they even looked into this idea?

And there's not even the complication of patent infringement to worry about, as Mills has been denied patents on virtually all of his work in every major jurisdiction. If his various patent applications (which are almost all now publicly available) actually contain enough information to reproduce his work, then any country in the world with even a small number of educated scientists and engineers should be able to build any of these devices whenever they want.

So why has not even one country in all the world even tried that?

 

[aleCcowaN]

Rathke's paper is ancient, and Mills responded to his criticisms a long time ago.

http://www.millsian.com/papers/Rathke'sresp012108Web.pdf

Thus spoke Zaratustra

I bet that "ancient" quality (yet another smooth snow job from you, it was written in 2005) doesn't make the text in red wrong. Have physics changed since then? What do YOU know for sure about it? Are solutions of the Schrödinger equation with n<1 square integrable now?

 

[aleCcowaN]

I said the heat Mills generator produced was equivalent to a BMW revving its engines at idle.

Then I proceeded to show that Mills generator was producing 260 kw of waste heat.

Then I showed the total kW of the BWM to be 327 kW, which is far above the 260 kW of waste heat produced by Mills reactor.

So yeah, I figure a BWM parked in neutral revving is engines is going to dump about as much heat as Mills generator - ball park.

The whole point of this exercise was to show that the world would not melt from every household running one of these generators because air is a great insulator. You can stand around an entire fleet of cars at idle and not roast to death.

You can rev an engine or you can have an engine at idle. You cannot have both.

Mills generator was producing 260 kw of waste heat.
Where does that heat go?

the world would not melt
Strawman. Nobody made that claim.

air is a great insulator.
How do ovens work, then?

I thought michaelsuede had learnt his lesson of he being grossly unprepared to discuss his advocacy here, but he keeps coming with "he says - she says" arguments, with basic Dale Carnegie's and, over all, speaking unmistakeably Marketin'eese.

I bet it's the good o'le (insistency = paid advocacy) where dubious meV are replaced by tangible $.

 

[sts60]

If it worked, this thing would be the ultimate boon for deep space and Mars and lunar surface missions. Massive amounts of power for VASIMR-type engines, no ionizing radiation, plenty of extra heat after running it through Stirling engines.

I wish it worked.

 

[halleyscomet]

So why hasn't China done that? Why hasn't any third world country done that? With a developing market for carbon credits and the like, converting your entire energy grid to something that emits no carbon at all would be a huge, no-strings-attached, infusion of hard cash into countries that desperately need it. So why haven't they even looked into this idea?

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So why has not even one country in all the world even tried that?

Clearly, hydrinos are so toxic they're even WORSE than the pollution those nations face now. What does North Korea know about hydrinos that michaelsuede isn't telling us? This tech is so toxic that not even NORTH KOREA is willing to implement it. Even worse, hydrinos are apparently so bad NORTH KOREA is not only refusing to produce them but refusing to weaponize them. These things are so destructive a country who wants to nuke Japan is refusing to load a warhead with a canister of hydrino gas.

 

[jaydeehess]

A billion trillion years from now, people will still be discussing his theories and his invention.

While this would be less than the time scale for Hawking radiation evaporation of a large black hole, it is also 100 billion orders of magnitude greater than the age of the universe.

Gotta call hyperbole on this one says Captain Obvious.

 

[jaydeehess]

If it worked, this thing would be the ultimate boon for deep space and Mars and lunar surface missions. Massive amounts of power for VASIMR-type engines, no ionizing radiation, plenty of extra heat after running it through Stirling engines.

I wish it worked.

Indeed. In fact imagine a few of them powering a Mars colony. The waste heat would supply, or at least supplement, the heating system. It runs on hydrogen! You have two choices to ship the fuel (if required) either ship the safer but heavier compound, water, or pressurized container of much lighter, yet more dangerous, hydrogen. Nice options.

I too wish it works. But a wish and a couple bucks will buy me a coffee. As I said before I am from Missouri on this one.

The only question is: will this thread continue for the next 12 months?

 

[halleyscomet]

The only question is: will this thread continue for the next 12 months?

Yes, it will.

Then, we'll get a bank of excuses why the tech STILL hasn't been brought to market, probably focused on the solar panel manufacturers.

 

[LTC8K6]

Shouldn't take 12 months:

I'm not too concerned.

I think Mills will beat the timeline established by a fair margin actually.

Excuses will need to start a fair margin before 12 months.