Brilliant Light Power Going To Market - Free Energy Generator

[aleCcowaN]

The more I read about it, the more shady it all looks.

Why is the super duper report available in the commercial site of the company and why is it so strangely laid out?

Why were so elemental steps -apparently- omitted, like stating who provided the samples and how the laboratory was sure about the content of those samples?

Why a mechanical engineer within the field of fluid mechanics and thermal science was chosen to perform these tests (no sign of somebody in the field of solid-state physics or from the chemistry area)

All that iron bromide, indium, etc, doesn't suggest something related to solid-state physics to you? I mean, I wouldn't be surprised if some kind of semiconductor or even a diode was created (but what I learnt on these topics was more than 30 years ago and happily forgotten in a 98% ... I had to make room for post-modernity and incipient arteriosclerosis)

Were the crucibles used "Faraday-caged" enough? Temperatures weren't so low, and at a certain range some reactions seem to have being triggered.

Mystère et boule de gomme...

 

[halleyscomet]

We need to put a stop to these lunatics until the environmental impact of their pollutant can be tested. They claim to be producing hydrino gas. Unless this is a con job, it will be trivial to collect it for testing.

First we need to get the EPA involved. This company has proven it has no intention of testing this stuff or having it tested so the government needs to get involved.

https://www.epa.gov/enforcement/report-environmental-violations

 

[halleyscomet]

According to their web site they're located in New Jersey.
http://brilliantlightpower.com/contact-careers/

Brilliant Light Power Inc.
493 Old Trenton Rd.
Cranbury, NJ 08512

609 490 1090 main
609 490 1066 fax

This means there are a couple of state level agencies that need to look into this company too.

http://www.nj.gov/dep/enforcement/opppc.html

http://www.nj.gov/dep/daq/

"Clean" energy isn't clean if it produces a poison that kills us all.

 

[Myriad]

Where's Walter Peck when you need him?

(Actually, that particular fictional character is not who I'd call. As others have pointed out, he was just doing his job by addressing an unknown, undocumented, and unlicensed environmental hazard. So far so good. But "we don't know what's in this 'containment facility' so shut down its power" makes no more sense than "we don't know what's in these metal drums so pour them out into the river immediately.")

 

[jaydeehess]

Nonreactive gas that is much less dense than the atmosphere and produces UV. So what does this do to the ozone layer when it drifts up there? In the presence of the Sun's UV will it react with ozone?

We only recently stopped using a highly stable compound (ie. relatively unreactive) because it was destroying the ozone.

 

[michaelsuede]

Or why not simply dunk the output end - where all this heat is created - into a swimming pool and measure the temperature rise.

They did that. It's called a bomb calorimetry test. Several these were done by different university professors who acted as validators. You can watch the video in the OP to see it being done yourself.

 

[jaydeehess]

Where's Walter Peck when you need him?

(Actually, that particular fictional character is not who I'd call. As others have pointed out, he was just doing his job by addressing an unknown, undocumented, and unlicensed environmental hazard. So far so good. But "we don't know what's in this 'containment facility' so shut down its power" makes no more sense than "we don't know what's in these metal drums so pour them out into the river immediately.")

Shutting down power did not work out for the Ghostbusters either.:

 

[aleCcowaN]

They did that. It's called a bomb calorimetry test. Several these were done by different university professors who acted as validators. You can watch the video in the OP to see it being done yourself.

What? You provided a link to one study done "by a university professor" and the most he gathered were 150 Joules.

Apparently you don't read what you're selling.

 

[The Man]

Oh please, let's blame the sun for dumping 1367 watts per square meter while we are at it.

The sun is causing global warming!'

Ah, so why not just give the ol' sun some more help then?

Multi-family apartments will not need a unit per household, and I doubt they will be dumping a whole megawatt per unit.

And more centralized power distribution improves on that concept. Not only for people who don't live in "Multi-family apartments" but for even multiple, well, multi-family apartment buildings.

Air is a pretty effective insulator. There's no environmental impact of note. Nothing for the green army to tax into oblivion.

Air is only an effective insulator if it is not allowed to convex. Unless you are claiming all the waste heat is retained in the generator until it essentially melts down, then yes it generates more waste heat energy than it produces electrical energy. That's more of an environmental impact than a power generation impact.

Mills is estimating the current bulb will run at a controlled 330 kw, with 11 to 20% of that being directly converted into energy depending on the number of junctions used. This does not include reflected light, which can up the efficiency dramatically. Future cell technology will allow for even higher efficiency, which will further reduce the total heat dumped.

Great so 80 to 89 % is wasted as heat, some 260 kw. 4 times (400% ) the amount "being directly converted into energy". You're better off using the heat and dumping the "11 to 20% of that being directly converted into energy depending on the number of junctions used". You use four times the energy from your fuel than before and reduce your waste to 1/4 of the previous estimate.

 

[jaydeehess]

Duplicate

 

[The Man]

A back of an envelope calculation with 13.6 eV ground state hydrogen puts the maximum (ground to zip) at about 91 nm wavelength. That's ultraviolet closer to X-rays then to the visual spectrum. Since zero electron orbital energy is probably too much of a scam giveaway, you have to figure the claim to be anywhere from radio to UV. Heck, unless you're really pushing the claimed orbital difference you're probably talking about microwave to IR. Both probably better at just heating water.

Oops, looks like I must have used the front of the envelop and not the back, getting it reversed. As a bound state, the 13.6 eV is an energy deficit. So 91 nm is the photon wavelength (energy) needed to ionize it from ground.

 

[michaelsuede]

The amount of wasted heat put out by Mills generator is less than BMW 7 series revving its engine in neutral.

 

[halleyscomet]

To summarize the thread so far:

If the company's claims are true this generator will:

Produce more waste heat than any other energy source on the planet by a few orders of magnitude.

Doesn't even extract energy from most the heat it generates, making it far LESS efficient than nuclear power.

Generates a massive quantity of a biohazard whose effects on living systems have not been studied, but has the potential to make Chernobyl look like uncle Bill dumping his auto oil in the sewer to save money.

Breaks down water into a contaminate that may restart and accelerate the decay of the ozone layer AND give global warming an additional boost.
This isn't an energy company, it's a frigging "Captain Planet" villain for Christ's sake.

 

[Dave Rogers]

This thread is wonderful. It seems to be the "let's inflate the stock balloon" version of these ones:

The whole idea of using it to power a light bulb that then generates electricity from photovoltaics reminds me a little of the Holman Horror. Which, of course, was another scam to part investors from their money that never had the faintest chance of working.

Dave

 

[halleyscomet]

The amount of wasted heat put out by Mills generator is less than BMW 7 series revving its engine in neutral.

You haven't actually DONE the math on the company's claims have you?

The people in this thread are crunching the numbers, something the marketing slime who sold you on this environmental catastrophe company didn't do.

 

[aleCcowaN]

The amount of wasted heat put out by Mills generator is less than BMW 7 series revving its engine in neutral.

Sorry, but you keep throwing repetitive snippets at the thread to keep the illusion there's something serious behind.

What you're doing is Dale Carnegie's manual to the dot: when doubts and critics are piling up just repeat a selling phrase which may have a positive nuance, no matter that is not what you have to do to follow the conversation.

 

[Dave Rogers]

The amount of wasted heat put out by Mills generator is less than BMW 7 series revving its engine in neutral.

And I suspect the thermodynamic efficiency is about the same.

Dave

 

[halleyscomet]

The whole idea of using it to power a light bulb that then generates electricity from photovoltaics reminds me a little of the Holman Horror. Which, of course, was another scam to part investors from their money that never had the faintest chance of working.



Dave

Sweet Jesus. That looks like something a fan-fiction writer created for a Thomas the Tank Engine story set in the Lovecraft universe.

 

[sts60]

I see that the OP has penned a piece modestly titled, Randell L. Mills – A Living Legend, Greater Than Einstein and Tesla Combined for a site called Libertarian News:

...Dr. Randell L. Mills, a Harvard trained medical doctor, who developed this generator and the physical theory behind it, will be remembered throughout the remainder of human history as the single greatest being to ever have lived. A billion trillion years from now, people will still be discussing his theories and his invention. Mills invention is no less transformative than the discovery of fire. It’s a far greater achievement than the combustion engine or the telephone.

In one fell swoop, Mills will have overturned the standing theories of physics, dismantled the power grid, put an end to virtually all air pollution, put an end to poverty, put an end to wars over energy resources, opened up the entire planet to human habitation, put a serious dent in the ability of politics to control people, and saved limitless lives in the future due to a lack of power.

To be alive at the same time as Mills is a cosmic treat...

It appears that most of michaelsuede's points in this thread are captured in the treatise. The website apparently belongs to him and is primarily his work.

Michael, I find the layout very clean and crisp, and clearly a lot of work has gone into it. Although we diverge on at least a significant fraction of the content, I really applaud your effort on that site.

 

[michaelsuede]

Michael, I find the layout very clean and crisp, and clearly a lot of work has gone into it. Although we diverge on at least a significant fraction of the content, I really applaud your effort on that site.

I thank you for the kind words.