Brilliant Light Power Going To Market - Free Energy Generator

[Andy_Ross]

The new model produces orders of magnitude more power using order of magnitudes less space, and it is portable. No need for a power grid.

If this was real he would be producing the earlier model and would have already transformed power generation and the worlds economy. Factories would be running on them, cargo ships would be running on them, trains would be running on them, aircraft carriers and destroyers would be running on them, subs would be running on them, power plants would be running on them.
He would be a billionaire and would have unlimited resources for further development, he would have transformed the world economy.

 

[Horatius]

I didn't notice that. What I saw was a nervous engineer who probably never gives public presentations.

Actually, he sounds exactly like the hundreds of scientists and engineers I've seen giving talks at industry conferences and the like over the last 18 years or so. Heck, he kind of sounds like me.

 

[The Man]

You got me thinking about the actual form of the energy released when the atoms drop into the sub-ground state. Can m-suede tell us the wavelength of the electromagnetic energy as it is first released (separate from its absorption and re-emission as heat and light)? And is it a series of narrow wavelengths, such as an LED, or more a diffuse spectra similar to that emitted by hot black bodies as he implies?

A back of an envelope calculation with 13.6 eV ground state hydrogen puts the maximum (ground to zip) at about 91 nm wavelength. That's ultraviolet closer to X-rays then to the visual spectrum. Since zero electron orbital energy is probably too much of a scam giveaway, you have to figure the claim to be anywhere from radio to UV. Heck, unless you're really pushing the claimed orbital difference you're probably talking about microwave to IR. Both probably better at just heating water.

 

[Giordano]

It's way harder to ram a steam engine into a car than a geodesic photovoltaic dome.

There's so much power being produced by the reaction that even if they just got a 5% conversion rate, that still means they are producing 50 kw.

The PV generator has no moving parts and will last for 20 years virtually maintenance free. Try that with a steam engine. Maintenance costs and longevity need to be taken into consideration when calculating if a PV is better than steam power. There's also the regulatory complications of a grid tied power source. The current solution by-passes all the power plant regulations and leaves the device regulated like any other gas powered home generator.

And what what about the vastly better conversion efficiency of using the very finely honed steam turbine systems already available instead of using this magic future solar cell array technology? Wouldn't the added, fairly minor problems of maintaining a moving parts device be trivial compared to the money gained through this added efficiency? And remember- most houses already use air conditioners, which have moving parts and are essentially a boiler/generator in reverse. And also remember that you are (at 5% efficiency) proposing to discard nearly 1 megawatt of heat when using the solar cells- one is going to have to move that heat out of the generator somehow- wouldn't you need a moving parts recirculating system to do this any way, and why not use it to boil a fluid and gain some extra energy from it???

 

[Andy_Ross]

At least use the waste heat to warm the house or heat your bath water.

 

[michaelsuede]

A back of an envelope calculation with 13.6 eV ground state hydrogen puts the maximum (ground to zip) at about 91 nm wavelength. That's ultraviolet closer to X-rays then to the visual spectrum. Since zero electron orbital energy is probably too much of a scam giveaway, you have to figure the claim to be anywhere from radio to UV. Heck, unless you're really pushing the claimed orbital difference you're probably talking about microwave to IR. Both probably better at just heating water.

Hydrino light signature:

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_VyTCyizqrHs/TPhJdPYod7I/AAAAAAAAJto/BV7Zoz-fvGY/s1600/blplight1.jpg

Rowan University also provides a full spectrum in their report on page 44.

http://brilliantlightpower.com/wp-content/uploads/pdf/Chary Redacted Report.pdf

Nothing produces a light spectrum like that.

BrLP also used the CfA's spectrometers for a test, coming up with emissions below 80nm.

 

[Giordano]

The key rule to remember in evaluating any investment proposal: "If it sounds too good to be true- chances are it is." Surprises do happen from time to time, but the more outlandish the claim the more solid proof one should demand (videos made by the people pushing the claim are not proof). And the more the device claims previously unknown physics discovered by someone with no suitable training or related education, and the more failed promises in the past, the more I think of Thoreau's statement, "The more he spoke of his honor the faster we counted our [silverware].

 

[Giordano]

Hydrino light signature:

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_VyTCyizqrHs/TPhJdPYod7I/AAAAAAAAJto/BV7Zoz-fvGY/s1600/blplight1.jpg

Rowan University also provides a full spectrum in their report on page 44.

http://brilliantlightpower.com/wp-content/uploads/pdf/Chary Redacted Report.pdf

Nothing produces a light spectrum like that.
BrLP also used the CfA's spectrometers for a test, coming up with emissions below 80nm.

Sure- just tell me where you want your emission peaks and I can produce for you a graph that shows just that! Easy. What device would you like me to claim I used? I may even have one already in my lab, but this would not be essential- just an added complication in fact.

BTW- I hope they are wearing their sunscreen!

 

[Horatius]

Rowan University also provides a full spectrum in their report on page 44.

Here's another thing. These guys at Rowan are often touted as being "independent confirmation" of BLP's claims, but if you actually look into it, they're not so independent as you might think.

 

[Giordano]

Sure- just tell me where you want your emission peaks and I can produce for you a graph that shows just that! Easy. What device would you like me to claim I used? I may even have one already in my lab, but this would not be essential- just an added complication in fact.

BTW- I hope they are wearing their sunscreen!

Also- I just noticed the posts sent to AAH. I don't fully understand all the rationale behind this so my apologies if any of my subsequent posts might have run afoul of the same concerns. I am only intending to discuss the science and documentation behind the device in these posts- not personalities or conspiracies.

 

[michaelsuede]

Here's another thing. These guys at Rowan are often touted as being "independent confirmation" of BLP's claims, but if you actually look into it, they're not so independent as you might think.

I don't see them as being any less independent than Underwriters Labs is.

Companies have to pay to get their products tested. That's just how business works.

Given the ramifications of the findings, the professors at Rowan, Illinois and UNC Asheville have all placed their academic reputations on the line with their validation reports.

 

[Horatius]

I don't see them as being any less independent than Underwriters Labs is.

Companies have to pay to get their products tested. That's just how business works.

Given the ramifications of the findings, the professors at Rowan, Illinois and UNC Asheville have all placed their academic reputations on the line with their validation reports.

http://spectrum.ieee.org/energy/nuclear/loser-hot-or-not

This past October, BlackLight announced the ”independent validation” of its solid-fuel reactor by a group led by Peter Jansson, a professor of engineering at Rowan University, in Glassboro, N.J.

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But critics have raised questions about the replication. They point out that the Rowan group simply borrowed reactors from BlackLight instead of preparing their own from scratch and that Jansson has been a collaborator of Mills’s.

So, it's not merely a case of "paying to have their equipment tested", it was tested by someone previously associated with Mills.

As for their "academic reputations", well, look here. Jansson's current CV doesn't even allude to BLP or any of his work in their devices.

 

[michaelsuede]

Yeah, the IEEE never bothered to send their own validators and they ignored the reports from a half dozen scientists saying Mills was legit. No surprise there.

If you don't like Rowan's professors, there's always Illinois and Asheville. Of course, you probably don't believe them either.

 

[The Man]

Nothing produces a light spectrum like that.

Of that, one can be certain.







Freudian slip?

Try 'Nothing else produces a light spectrum like that' for future reference.

 

[Horatius]

If you don't like Rowan's professors, there's always Illinois and Asheville. Of course, you probably don't believe them either.

I'll believe them if I'm paying you a hundred bucks in a year and a half.

 

[michaelsuede]

I'll believe them if I'm paying you a hundred bucks in a year and a half.

Yeah, we shall see how this plays out.

My worry isn't with Mills, it's with Columbia Tech's ability to get the applied engineering for the generator done on schedule.

 

[Norman Alexander]

Mr Suede, how much money have YOU put into this fabulous offer, pray tell??

 

[Horatius]

Yeah, we shall see how this plays out.

My worry isn't with Mills, it's with Columbia Tech's ability to get the applied engineering for the generator done on schedule.

And that's just completely ass-backwards. Seriously. I've linked to a patent application from one of the guys developing the "not breaking the laws of physics" parts of the system, and he's pretty on the ball. I could have linked to several other such patents. There's one company alone that has dozens of patents on such TPV cells. There's no credible doubt that those bits will work.

Where this all falls down is the source of the energy that those systems will be using to produce their electricity from well known optical and photovoltaic systems. Even if they're not perfectly optimized for the given spectrum, they should still work at an acceptable level, producing an incontrovertible output of power, over any desired time period.

If you seriously think that these well known, already operational systems are the weak link in this chain, you're delusional. Even if BLP is eventually proven correct, this is still a delusional assertion.

 

[halleyscomet]

And that's just completely ass-backwards. Seriously. I've linked to a patent application from one of the guys developing the "not breaking the laws of physics" parts of the system, and he's pretty on the ball. I could have linked to several other such patents. There's one company alone that has dozens of patents on such TPV cells. There's no credible doubt that those bits will work.



Where this all falls down is the source of the energy that those systems will be using to produce their electricity from well known optical and photovoltaic systems. Even if they're not perfectly optimized for the given spectrum, they should still work at an acceptable level, producing an incontrovertible output of power, over any desired time period.



If you seriously think that these well known, already operational systems are the weak link in this chain, you're delusional. Even if BLP is eventually proven correct, this is still a delusional assertion.

It's all about scapegoating. When the product fails to make it to market in a functional state you need a disposable and replaceable scapegoat to throw under the bus so you can keep revising the overall con.

It's like fad diets. As long as you can convince your marks the flaw is with their willpower and not with the diet you can get repeat suckers who come back again and again.

 

[sts60]

Yeah, we shall see how this plays out.

My worry isn't with Mills, it's with Columbia Tech's ability to get the applied engineering for the generator done on schedule.

That's one potential excuse.

Of course, this gimcrack is supposed to create such massive amounts of power that there is no reason at all it can't be demonstrated with as a steam engine and garner a Nobel Prize for its inventor. A PV or TPV cell is irrelevant to the claimed principle, to the thing that is supposed to put the "free" in "(nearly) free energy".

But there will always be an excuse why this thing won't ever be put into commercial use; the real reason, however, is that the physical principle claimed is bogus. It's not the first time that there have been reports "confirming" the free energy devices work, all the way up until it's time to connect the input to the output and let it power itself steady-state in the real world.

I suggest that the ideal application for this generator is to power a Nassikas "thruster". Both have their enthusiastic proponents here, and both are fiction.