Are all Trump supporters racists?

It takes a special kind of apologetics to suggest that adding an actual mistake to bias somehow makes it better.

He talked about his dislike and the unfairness of a "Mexican Judge" and somehow your side has morphed that into a racist. Hilarious!
 
Reading those transcripts just reminded me again that our nation has elected to its highest office a lunatic who cannot string together two coherent sentences.

Despite all these threads on the topic I'm still at a loss for how people could listen to this bozo or read his transcripts and think, "Yep, that guy should be our president!"

So you think "Mexican heretige" is a race? You don't seem to get his point of building the wall might mean folks from "Mexico" might dislike him. It has nothing to do with race and all to do about a certain country.

And somehow your side has morphed this into racism. Have I mentioned how much fun it was defeating your side?
 
Lol
It was national news.

No, the national news did not include lying about Michelle paying her own expenses, or about the number of people who went, or their paying their own expenses. Those were lies intended to support the racist "mooch" characterization. You live in Rush's alternate reality and then quote the liar saying that liberals don't live in reality.
 
No, the national news did not include lying about Michelle paying her own expenses, or about the number of people who went, or their paying their own expenses. Those were lies intended to support the racist "mooch" characterization. You live in Rush's alternate reality and then quote the liar saying that liberals don't live in reality.

You mean she paid SS, her own private jet, the many hotels and staff it took for her to see the world?

And of course somehow it's racist, that really bolsters your stupid argument.
 
Then it should easy for you to show where I'm wrong. So prove it!

Most of that has been proven in the thread on the topic.

There are many people I disagree with who I've never accused of racism or being racist. I disagree with BobtheCoward very often, but he's completely civil and I believe he is not racist. I disagree with theprestige very often, and I believe he is not racist. I disagree with Zig near constantly, but I don't believe he's racist.

So, proven. You're simply wrong. It's more sad that as much as conservatives and Republicans condemn people crying racism too often, they never have the self-awareness to realize they should object to those who make false accusations of other people crying racism for exactly the same reasons they say liberals should call out the people falsely crying racism.

Eventually, I might find a more simple way of wording that.
 
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So, proven. You're simply wrong. It's more sad that as much as conservatives and Republicans condemn people crying racism too often, they never have the self-awareness to realize they should object to those who make false accusations of other people crying racism for exactly the same reasons they say liberals should call out the people falsely crying racism.

Eventually, I might find a more simple way of wording that.


Offered as a suggestion mainly to see if I understand you :

"Conservatives should more call out those on the conservative side who claim something isn't racism when it clearly is, for the same reason conservatives want liberals to call out those on the liberal side who claim something is racism when it clearly isn't".

Did I parse you right?
 
Most of that has been proven in the thread on the topic.

You proved nothing, you said it couldn't be anything else but racism, because, just because. I find it hilarious that you continue to live in this reality you've created for yourself.
 
Offered as a suggestion mainly to see if I understand you :

"Conservatives should more call out those on the conservative side who claim something isn't racism when it clearly is, for the same reason conservatives want liberals to call out those on the liberal side who claim something is racism when it clearly isn't".

Did I parse you right?

Not exactly, although that's true as well. That's probably more important.

If liberals should object to something or someone not racist (or with not enough evidence to call them racist) being called racist, then conservatives should object to someone claiming someone is accusing others of being racist, when no such accusation has been made.

Damn, I'm still having trouble wording it well.

Perhaps names would help. If someone named Tim accused Mark of calling Tim a racist, when Mark made no such accusation, then it should be objected too just as if Mark had called Tim a racist without good reason.

Basically conservatives should rationally have interest in objecting to things like logger declaring that liberals call everyone they disagree with racist, especially in a thread where almost everyone, liberal, conservative and other, has answered the OP question with not just 'no' but 'no, of course not, that's silly'.
 
Yeah, I'm totally busted on that one.. Should have Googled first..

The AirBnB one is, as far as I care, obscure. I don't use the service, and only know of it because it came up on a couple of podcasts I listen to. SO I definitely don't blame you there.

You're on your own for the Trump one, though! :D
 
You proved nothing, you said it couldn't be anything else but racism, because, just because. I find it hilarious that you continue to live in this reality you've created for yourself.
Yeah right. Of course you're one of two people on the planet who don't consider this statement (made by a Trump supporter) as racist:

Carl Paladino said:
I’d like her [Michelle Obama] to return to being a male and let loose in the outback of Zimbabwe where she lives comfortably in a cave with Maxie, the gorilla.
 
You mean she paid SS, her own private jet, the many hotels and staff it took for her to see the world?

And of course somehow it's racist, that really bolsters your stupid argument.

As you said, it was covered by national news, so you could check the facts yourself. But no, you'd rather believe Rush's lies, and then quote the liar as saying liberals don't live in reality.
 
Not exactly, although that's true as well. That's probably more important.

If liberals should object to something or someone not racist (or with not enough evidence to call them racist) being called racist, then conservatives should object to someone claiming someone is accusing others of being racist, when no such accusation has been made.

Damn, I'm still having trouble wording it well.

Perhaps names would help. If someone named Tim accused Mark of calling Tim a racist, when Mark made no such accusation, then it should be objected too just as if Mark had called Tim a racist without good reason.

Basically conservatives should rationally have interest in objecting to things like logger declaring that liberals call everyone they disagree with racist, especially in a thread where almost everyone, liberal, conservative and other, has answered the OP question with not just 'no' but 'no, of course not, that's silly'.


Ah, okay I get your point now I think.

The big trouble I've found in discussions about any form of <x>-ism is that I tend to disagree with people to mere degrees, and not categorically, and (for me at least) those are the hardest arguments to make. It's telling people they have a point, just not quite to the degree they're taking it, as opposed to something like "no, homeopathy just doesn't work, period end.".

This was the complaint I was making in meatspace a couple of years ago : we (liberals) were applying the <x>-ist labels far too quickly and lowering the bar for what qualified. Making chimp noises when Obama was on TV was racist, but then so was wearing a Mariachi costume for Halloween. It's like ending every sentence with an exclamation mark - suddenly nothing is emphasized.

And on the flip side, the few conservatives I know were quick to dismiss any claims of <x>-isms on the grounds that liberals were too sensitive. They were right - air conditioners really weren't sexist (look that one up if you're unfamiliar), but that doesn't mean we should just let it slide when Trump talks about grabbing by the pussy.

Looping back I'd say that if a randomly selected someone is found painting another side incorrectly as being a racist, odds are that person will be a liberal (IMO only, and I'm willing to concede this part given evidence). Yes, some liberals call everyone they disagree with an <x>-ist. But that naturally doesn't mean that all liberals do that, or that only liberals do that. And that's without even touching on the issue of abstracting every issue and behavior into a simplistic liberal/conservative dichotomy, when in my opinion the more important axis these days is authoritarian/libertarian (the lowercase "l", not the removed-from-reality Libertarianism we run into a lot here on ISF).
 
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He talked about his dislike and the unfairness of a "Mexican Judge" and somehow your side has morphed that into a racist. Hilarious!
I don't think I myself actually accused him of racism in this case, but if I did or was perceived to, please accept my retraction. Trump is guilty only of error, stupidity, bias, and dishonesty.
 

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