Are all Trump supporters racists?

wareyin said:
And again, by the vote count, the Dems did walk away with a huge victory. Almost 3 million votes would be a large margin for a win.
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Gee, I'm going back and tell my HS Baseball team mates that we won those games when we got the most hits, but lost the game because we had less runs. We'll change that because some people believe in changing the way the winner is determined.

How convenient it is to distort reality when you don't get your way! :rolleyes:

Does it make you feel better? ;)
 
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logger said:
Actually I said you shouldn't accuse people of being racist without proof. You called bertherism racist because you had a feeling. You called me a racist because you had a feeling. Varoche called me a racist yesterday because he had a feeling. I've told all of you, your side throws that term around like candy.
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No. Your standard of proof was as I described; the person had to admit it was racism. My belief that birtherism (why do you spell it with an 'e' by the way?) has a major racist component was through observation, comparison, and process of elimination. Not a feeling.

'Racist' is thrown around too much. That is in no way, shape, or form that any specific allegation isn't accurate though.

Your side denies it to the point it aids racism. To deny the problem is to stifle the most basic form of addressing it.
 
Ziggurat said:
You're simply wrong. uke2se omitted addressing the actual point of Cainkane1's post, and I called him out on that. You just want to change the subject.
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You changed the subject, and now are complaining I pointed that out. (And yes, uke2se changed the subject too. Going off on tangents isn't inherently bad.) You didn't just ask him to address that point; you cut out everything and worded it as though there was nothing else he could have been referring to.
 
Reheat said:
Gee, I'm going back and tell my HS Baseball team mates that we won those games when we go the most hits, but lost the game. We'll change that because some people believe in changing the way the winner is determined.

How convenient it is to distort reality when you don't get your way! :rolleyes:

Does it make you feel better? ;)
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You're ignoring the point though. You cannot conclude that the policies of the Dems is unpopular or needs changing in order to win when they by definition are more popular.

Packaging and a very slight change in social priorities is all that's needed.
 
tyr_13 said:
You're ignoring the point though. You cannot conclude that the policies of the Dems is unpopular or needs changing in order to win when they by definition are more popular.

Packaging and a very slight change in social priorities is all that's needed.
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I didn't claim anything at all other than to point out how the recent election was scored. That's fact. The candidates all know how it's scored, so they campaign accordingly. I couldn't really care less what is changed or what is not changed. Makes little difference to me. As an after thought perhaps a better candidate might do the trick...

Actually I will make a claim now based on what you've said above. The policies of the dems are absolutely unpopular because they have lost BOTH the House and the Senate, most Governors, and most State Legislatures. If that doesn't prove who or what's more popular what does? In addition, you lost to one of the most controversial figures to enter politics in the modern age. His morals are corrupt and he insulted his way to the Presidency. That's a hard one to swallow, isn't it?
 
tyr_13 said:
You changed the subject, and now are complaining I pointed that out. (And yes, uke2se changed the subject too. Going off on tangents isn't inherently bad.) You didn't just ask him to address that point; you cut out everything and worded it as though there was nothing else he could have been referring to.
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For what it's worth, I don't particularly care what Ziggurat has to say about my posts.
 
tyr_13 said:
You changed the subject, and now are complaining I pointed that out.
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Not only are you wrong about my posts, now you're even wrong about YOUR post.

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Nope. I specifically called you out for misrepresenting uke2se's comment by omission.
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Saying I changed the subject is quite the walkback from saying I misrepresented him. But even that's wrong.

You didn't just ask him to address that point
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Because I didn't make what was already obvious explicit?

you cut out everything and worded it as though there was nothing else he could have been referring to.
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No. I phrased it like it was: like he was avoiding the entire point of Cainkane1's post.
 
wareyin said:
Judging by how his supporters have been acting, I think it's obvious that morals, character, and honesty don't actually mean anything to them.
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Perhaps, but unproven. Allow me to offer you an example of deplorable behavior with the postings of the sore losers on this forum and in most Main Stream Media outlets.

Look at the threads and note the verbiage being used about what Trump will or will not do based on their political bias. Those include some of the worse language and insults I've ever seen in my long years of following American Politics. The man hasn't even been Inaugurated yet there are supposed skeptics predicting doom and gloom in the nastiest most offensive way possible under the rules of this forum.

You have repeated the meme regarding the popular vote many times although it means nothing in a Presidential Election.

Many (but not all) of the suspected assaults against minorities have been proven false. There have been assaults in the other direction too.

Trump has been unjustly accused of being a racist because of his remarks about Mexicans and Muslims. Yet, an unbiased observer realizes he is addressing criminal behavior and terrorism, not the race of the people. It's amazing that rational people without political bias understood that. Yet, Liberal fanatics keep harping on it like they always do with false accusations.

It's certain that he is not a polished politician (as if that needed to be said). He speaks without prompts and sometimes due to the extemporaneous nature of his speeches things he says comes out wrong. He is very narcissistic for sure, but that doesn't bother me.

How he will Govern is the issue and we'll have to wait and see. I am not displeased with his choices for his Cabinet and I've seen nothing yet that causes me alarm.

He is very unique and that obviously bothers some, but I was obviously willing to take a chance considering the other choice. I'm under no delusions.

If he screws up badly or is otherwise proven to be unfit then there are alternatives. I will support that if I think it's justified. But, just because radical Liberals/Progressives object to what he say or does is not sufficient reason for me to object. I've had my fill of the Liberal/Progressive agenda as have most Americans and it is reflected in who they elect as I've clearly stated above. You're welcome
 
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Reheat said:
You have repeated the meme regarding the popular vote many times although it means nothing in a Presidential Election.
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I've repeated the fact that almost 3 million more people voted for Clinton because of mathematically challenged claims like the following:
I've had my fill of the Liberal/Progressive agenda as have most Americans and it is reflected in who they elect as I've clearly stated above.
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wareyin said:
I've repeated the fact that almost 3 million more people voted for Clinton because of mathematically challenged claims like the following:
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I tend to repeat it because it's sticks in the eyes of Trump and his sycophants.
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Reheat said:
Trump has been unjustly accused of being a racist because of his remarks about Mexicans and Muslims. Yet, an unbiased observer realizes he is addressing criminal behavior and terrorism, not the race of the people. It's amazing that rational people without political bias understood that. Yet, Liberal fanatics keep harping on it like they always do with false accusations.
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Question 1: when Trump questions his treatment by Judge Curiel, was it because he thought the judge was a criminal, or a terrorist?

Question 2: when Trump advocated a policy of stop-and-frisk, which has been found to be both racist and unconstitutional, was it because the 90% of black and hispanic men harrassed under this policy that were left go without further action were terrorists, or criminals?

(hint: you're peddling nonsense.)

Thanks!
 
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tyr_13 said:
No. Your standard of proof was as I described; the person had to admit it was racism. My belief that birtherism (why do you spell it with an 'e' by the way?) has a major racist component was through observation, comparison, and process of elimination. Not a feeling.
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You offered no observation that would lead anyone to conclude it was racism. You offered nothing to compare it to, because it was something new. You're left with process of elimination and you had many choices. You chose racism.

Your side denies it to the point it aids racism. To deny the problem is to stifle the most basic form of addressing it.
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You label anyone who disagrees with you a racist, it's part of your process of elimination.
 
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Reheat said:
I didn't claim anything at all other than to point out how the recent election was scored. That's fact. The candidates all know how it's scored, so they campaign accordingly. I couldn't really care less what is changed or what is not changed. Makes little difference to me. As an after thought perhaps a better candidate might do the trick...

Actually I will make a claim now based on what you've said above. The policies of the dems are absolutely unpopular because they have lost BOTH the House and the Senate, most Governors, and most State Legislatures. If that doesn't prove who or what's more popular what does? In addition, you lost to one of the most controversial figures to enter politics in the modern age. His morals are corrupt and he insulted his way to the Presidency. That's a hard one to swallow, isn't it?
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The popular vote. That is literally what it means. The other things are not the most popular because they don't rely on the entire populous.


logger said:
You offered no observation that would lead anyone to conclude it was racism. You offered nothing to compare it to, because it was something new. You're left with process of elimination and you had many choices. You chose racism.


You label anyone who disagrees with you a racist, it's part of your process of elimination.
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No. You're wrong on almost every sentence here, but especially the last one.
 
Ziggurat said:
Not only are you wrong about my posts, now you're even wrong about YOUR post.



Saying I changed the subject is quite the walkback from saying I misrepresented him. But even that's wrong.
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Oh really? It's not possible to change the subject by misrepresentation?



Because I didn't make what was already obvious explicit?



No. I phrased it like it was: like he was avoiding the entire point of Cainkane1's post.
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No, you phrased it, "When you're calling Cainkane1 racist just for voting for Trump, then YOU are the one casually dismissing things, not me."

You misrepresented what he said and were called on it.
 
Mumbles said:
Question 2: when Trump advocated a policy of stop-and-frisk, which has been found to be both racist and unconstitutional, was it because the 90% of black and hispanic men harrassed under this policy that were left go without further action were terrorists, or criminals?

(hint: you're peddling nonsense.)

Thanks!
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Why is it that many in black neighborhoods support stop and frisk? If it targeted blacks or others unjustifiably was the because of the policy or was it because of the way it was implemented. I Don't know...

I don't give a damn what Holder's Justice cronies found. What I give a damn about is if it works.

How in the hell can you justify the murder rate in Chicago with no resolution in sight. So do you maybe suspect that stop and frisk might have saved a few lives or do you just not give a **** about that.


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If some minorities were irritated by stop and frisk I really don't give a damn if it was even reasonably effective. A little inconvenience to stop murders seems to me to be worthwhile.

The incidence of white on black crime is minuscule compared to black on black crime. You ought to know that. Yet I've seen you support the Black Lives Matter criminal organization based on a false narrative from the very beginning.


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wareyin said:
I've repeated the fact that almost 3 million more people voted for Clinton because of mathematically challenged claims like the following:
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Of course not all Trump supporters are racists. That's a ridiculously broad brush.

However, Trump supporters who blow dog whistles in a serial fashion, e.g. referring to Michelle Obama as Moochelle, have no business whining about the way they are perceived.
 
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