Are all Trump supporters racists?

[ChrisBFRPKY]

As uke2se pointed out, he was called on it during the Central Park 5 furore.

Of course he was legally called on it during the 1970's.

Of course he didn't spend quite so much time consorting with racists when he supported the Democratic Party

So the Democrats knew Trump was racist, yet they accepted his donations and even attended his wedding.......and that was ok, back then, but not now?
Chris B.

 

[The Don]

So the Democrats knew Trump was racist, yet they accepted his donations and even attended his wedding.......and that was ok, back then, but not now?
Chris B.

I don't know, you'll have to ask them how they squared it away.

 

[ChrisBFRPKY]

I don't know, you'll have to ask them how they squared it away.

I think the obvious answer is that he wasn't a racist then and he's not one now.
As guilt by association would also catch Hillary Clinton. Chris B.

 

[The Don]

I think the obvious answer is that he wasn't a racist then and he's not one now.
As guilt by association would also catch Hillary Clinton. Chris B.

No, the obvious answer is that he has always been racist but those in receipt of his largesse were either unaware of it or decided that he wasn't so racist that it was a big enough problem to refuse the money.

 

[varwoche]

Bumping this question for ChrisBFRPKY:

Do you acknowledge that Trump propagated false information emanating from a neo-nazi source concerning black on white crime? And that he has never retracted, even once the source was debunked?

Well? A simple yes or no will suffice.

 

[Mumbles]

Questioning where Obama was born is racist? Why? Simply because he's a Black man? Was it also racist when he questioned where Cruz was born? Perhaps you are applying a racist label where no racism exists. Ever think about that?
Chris B.

Claiming that Obama wasn't born in the US, and that he couldn't have had good grades, and that his first book must have been ghostwritten by a random white guy (Again, Bill Ayers) despite clear evidence that all three claims are incorrect, is the sort of white supremacist crapthat goes back to the days of slavery. "Oh, the black guy isn't really American, he can't possibly be smarter than white people, how could he possibly write a decent book?"

Yeah, I've heard that same racist crap throughout my own life - as I've said before, it's a list of everything racist white people say about successful black people.

I think the obvious answer is that he wasn't a racist then and he's not one now.
As guilt by association would also catch Hillary Clinton. Chris B.

Or, that Bill and Hillary were at best highly tolerant of racism - which their history plainly shows that they were. I only became enthusiastic about Hillary this year, when she began to make it clear that she was planning to work for racial equality, and began taking advice from an all-star cast of black women (as opposed to Trump, who has assembled the KKK's greatest hits.)

 

[desmirelle]

I know of two medical professionals who voted AGAINST Hillary because of their concerns about her mental condition. They explained that she'd had a brain bleed (or clot, I forget exactly which) and then, in her testimony about her emails repeatedly stated she did not know what the confidentiality codes were on her Sec of State emails.....their concern was a president with an UNDISCLOSED/UNRECOGNIZED mental problem. (I didn't ask if they voted for don or gary, but the gay guy volunteered he voted for trump.)

 

[Aridas]

But why only now do we hear this racism stuff about Trump? Not a peep while he was a Democrat.......Why? If it's true now then it was true then right?
Something smells funny to me. Chris B.

What reason would you, or most people, have had to care? Was Trump a serious contender for a government position then, for example? Either way, your arguments have been sounding rather weak and desperate for a while now. Why do YOU want Trump to not be seen as a racist so badly that you keep tendering such obviously flimsy excuses? For the sake of protecting the your idealized view of the Republican Party, maybe? The Republican Party was quite worth of support back in Lincoln's day, after all, and the Democratic Party was rather worthy of disdain long ago, too. Perhaps you share a number of racist sentiments with him and don't want to admit they're racist? Many people don't like admitting their unpleasant or irrational side is actually unpleasant or irrational.

Whatever the case, Trump seems to fairly clearly be a racist, based on his actual words and actions. I pointedly voted against Trump, but then, like now, I considered his racism to be a rather superficial concern and still don't really see why so many people have latched onto it as if it were more important than the actually serious concerns. Even with those serious concerns, though, the fact remains that he was elected President (or rather, is extremely likely to be in a couple days,) under the existing system, fairly certainly as an unintended result of the nasty, but generally legal, politics that the Republican Party has been stooping to for a fair while now. Given that he has, I'm pointedly hoping that either I'm wrong and Trump will turn out to be a far, far better President than the signs point to or that people will learn from their mistakes and this black mark on American history will be a turning point and reminder that will make things better later on.

 

[varwoche]

I know of two medical professionals who voted AGAINST Hillary because of their concerns about her mental condition. They explained that she'd had a brain bleed (or clot, I forget exactly which) and then, in her testimony about her emails repeatedly stated she did not know what the confidentiality codes were on her Sec of State emails.....their concern was a president with an UNDISCLOSED/UNRECOGNIZED mental problem. (I didn't ask if they voted for don or gary, but the gay guy volunteered he voted for trump.)

Whereas I know of a medical professional who thinks actual angels from heaven walk among us.

In other words, your weak anecdote informs readers of precisely nothing.

 

[WilliamSeger]

Trump is a recent convert to Conservatism. Meaning, he was Democrat and a big Democrat donor for decades. Hillary Clinton was a guest at his wedding. Seems odd to me that only now is this "racist" background thing a thing. Seems rather difficult to accept that while he was a Democrat and party donor , he was a great guy.........yet all of a sudden when he shifts to Conservative, he's now sold as a long time racist and white supremie by the Left....

Are you at all concerned that you may be a little naive? Let's see it from YOUR point of view and say Trump is a racist. How long was he a racist as a Democrat vs how long he has been a racist as a Republican? Did you consider this at all? Chris B.

Any attempt to analyze the Boy King as if he is a normal person is doomed to failure. He's a self-serving narcissist who can put on any mask he needs to manipulate the audience at hand, so you look a little silly claiming someone else is naive. He was never a "great guy." It's really a shame that his parents made the mistake of sending him to military school instead of a therapist; at that age, he probably could have been helped. Anyway, it's pretty obvious why he was a "Democrat" when he was wheeling and dealing in Manhattan, and why he switched to the Republican Party when he decided to run for president. The reason is certainly not flattering to Republicans.

 

[Mumbles]

Whatever the case, Trump seems to fairly clearly be a racist, based on his actual words and actions. I pointedly voted against Trump, but then, like now, I considered his racism to be a rather superficial concern and still don't really see why so many people have latched onto it as if it were more important than the actually serious concerns.

What exactly do you mean by "actual serious concerns"? I assure you, this is an extremely serious concern to me, my family, and my friends, because we stand to be directly impacted by his open white supremacy, much like the brazen racism and homophobia that infested the North Carolina GOP directly affected my family, and some friends, who lived there.

And while GOPers might stand up against some of Trump's more outlandish nominations, such as John Bolton, we've learned over the years that we absolutely cannot rely on white Americans to stand up for minority rights. If anything, we can expect that a majority of white Americans will not do so - as they demonstrated on November 8th of this year.

 

[ChrisBFRPKY]

What reason would you, or most people, have had to care? Was Trump a serious contender for a government position then, for example? Either way, your arguments have been sounding rather weak and desperate for a while now. Why do YOU want Trump to not be seen as a racist so badly that you keep tendering such obviously flimsy excuses? For the sake of protecting the your idealized view of the Republican Party, maybe? The Republican Party was quite worth of support back in Lincoln's day, after all, and the Democratic Party was rather worthy of disdain long ago, too. Perhaps you share a number of racist sentiments with him and don't want to admit they're racist? Many people don't like admitting their unpleasant or irrational side is actually unpleasant or irrational.

Whatever the case, Trump seems to fairly clearly be a racist, based on his actual words and actions. I pointedly voted against Trump, but then, like now, I considered his racism to be a rather superficial concern and still don't really see why so many people have latched onto it as if it were more important than the actually serious concerns. Even with those serious concerns, though, the fact remains that he was elected President (or rather, is extremely likely to be in a couple days,) under the existing system, fairly certainly as an unintended result of the nasty, but generally legal, politics that the Republican Party has been stooping to for a fair while now. Given that he has, I'm pointedly hoping that either I'm wrong and Trump will turn out to be a far, far better President than the signs point to or that people will learn from their mistakes and this black mark on American history will be a turning point and reminder that will make things better later on.

It's perfectly fine to view Trump as you wish. I just don't see him as a racist. A few poorly worded comments doesn't condemn someone or brand them as a racist. We tend to overlook the exact same type of poorly worded comments when they come from individuals on the Left. Who was it that said "Republicans are gonna put ya'll back in chains." or can we remember who said young Black men were "Super predators".......If we apply the same rules as are being applied to Trump, then Biden and Clinton are racists. How about the comment Bill Clinton made about Obama? "A few years ago, this guy would have been carrying our bags."

Really now, are you quite sure poorly worded statements are a qualifier for determining who is a racist? And thereby labeling those that own them racists? I'll go along with it if you will. Chris B.

 

[ChrisBFRPKY]

Any attempt to analyze the Boy King as if he is a normal person is doomed to failure. He's a self-serving narcissist who can put on any mask he needs to manipulate the audience at hand, so you look a little silly claiming someone else is naive. He was never a "great guy." It's really a shame that his parents made the mistake of sending him to military school instead of a therapist; at that age, he probably could have been helped. Anyway, it's pretty obvious why he was a "Democrat" when he was wheeling and dealing in Manhattan, and why he switched to the Republican Party when he decided to run for president. The reason is certainly not flattering to Republicans.

I don't believe for a second the people that voted for Trump thought they were buying an angel and a perfect person. That's exactly where the Clinton campaign went wrong. What was purchased was a savvy businessman to run the US with common sense and an attitude of America first. The character qualities you mention and that Clinton repeatedly attacked were of no concern for most voters. Chris B.

 

[TheL8Elvis]

You forgot the percentage of Black population committing crimes vs the percentage of White population committing crimes........

A higher percentage of one race will ensure a higher mortality rate during criminal/cop conflicts. Whites are more apt to be shot by police than Blacks. You really need to get away from the sources that parrot "Hands up Don't shoot" Fantasy does not mix well with fact. Chris B.

You conveniently forgot to provide any facts.

FAIL.

 

[theprestige]

It's difficult to choose - why don't you decide ?

It's not my claim, and not my criteria. I can't understand what you think by telling you what I think.

 

[ChrisBFRPKY]

Claiming that Obama wasn't born in the US, and that he couldn't have had good grades, and that his first book must have been ghostwritten by a random white guy (Again, Bill Ayers) despite clear evidence that all three claims are incorrect, is the sort of white supremacist crapthat goes back to the days of slavery. "Oh, the black guy isn't really American, he can't possibly be smarter than white people, how could he possibly write a decent book?"

Yeah, I've heard that same racist crap throughout my own life - as I've said before, it's a list of everything racist white people say about successful black people.



Or, that Bill and Hillary were at best highly tolerant of racism - which their history plainly shows that they were. I only became enthusiastic about Hillary this year, when she began to make it clear that she was planning to work for racial equality, and began taking advice from an all-star cast of black women (as opposed to Trump, who has assembled the KKK's greatest hits.)

So you really see the US as a Black and a White Nation? I think equal treatment for all without any regard for skin color is more like it.
That's me though. If you look for racism with a chip on your shoulder, you're gonna find it, even where it doesn't exist. Chris B.

 

[WilliamSeger]

I don't believe for a second the people that voted for Trump thought they were buying an angel and a perfect person. That's exactly where the Clinton campaign went wrong. What was purchased was a savvy businessman to run the US with common sense and an attitude of America first. The character qualities you mention and that Clinton repeatedly attacked were of no concern for most voters. Chris B.

The reality TV "savvy businessman" whose actual career is mistake after mistake and is most noted for bankruptcies and taking advantage of people who trusted him? "America first" is his biggest lie; it's always Donald first, and nothing else can come in better than second. He's not even sworn in yet and it's clear that he can't deal with any issue whatsoever without his ridiculously bloated but amazingly fragile ego getting in the way. What was that about naive?

 

[ChrisBFRPKY]

You conveniently forgot to provide any facts.

FAIL.

"In New York from January to June 2008, 83 percent of all gun assailants were black, according to witnesses and victims, though blacks were only 24 percent of the population. Blacks and Hispanics together accounted for 98 percent of all gun assailants. Forty-nine of every 50 muggings and murders in the Big Apple were the work of black or Hispanic criminals."

http://humanevents.com/2013/07/19/black-americas-real-problem-isnt-white-racism/

Next.

Chris B.

 

[ChrisBFRPKY]

The reality TV "savvy businessman" whose actual career is mistake after mistake and is most noted for bankruptcies and taking advantage of people who trusted him? "America first" is his biggest lie; it's always Donald first, and nothing else can come in better than second. He's not even sworn in yet and it's clear that he can't deal with any issue whatsoever without his ridiculously bloated but amazingly fragile ego getting in the way. What was that about naive?

I wish I could make the same kind of mistakes Trump did that would make me a billionaire........Chris B.

 

[WilliamSeger]

I wish I could make the same kind of mistakes Trump did that would make me a billionaire........Chris B.

Why do you believe he's a billionaire -- because he said so? It's true that almost all of the bankruptcy loses were other people's money (for which he took the tax deductions for 18 years!), but there's a pretty good chance he's not a billionaire except in his own bloated estimation of the worth of the Trump brand. It's possible that he can't divest because he needs the cashflow to service his multi-billion-dollar debts. (We don't know all the details and likely never will, but it is known from public records that he has nearly a billion in personal debt and two billion in company debts.)

And after claiming he was so rich he would finance his own campaign so he wouldn't be beholden to anyone, nobody who's paid attention to his "successful" career should have been surprised when he started taking donations, or that he has now nominated for his administration three people who contributed a total of $11 million.

You've been had.