Are all Trump supporters racists?

phiwum said:
That's not fair.

Turn it around. Would it be fair to say that Clinton supporters didn't care about her email scandal? I can tell you that I cared, but that the alternative, a Trump presidency, was too horrible to make that concern a deciding factor.
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It would be fair to say that I sure didn't care about it at all.

ChrisBFRPKY said:
Do you even know what NAFTA is and how it has affected working class Americans? Do you not know factory workers that have lost jobs because their company closed down and moved to another Country?
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Which has what to do with NAFTA? Those jobs moved because people in other country can do the same job for far less. NAFTA did not create that situation simple supply and demand did.

ChrisBFRPKY said:
Oh where to begin, there are so many prime examples. OK, let's look at Detroit. Democrat run and has been for a long time. What happened to Detroit? Motor City? I remember when it was called that. Auto factories everywhere. Jobs were plentiful. What happened? After NAFTA went into effect the auto makers left the Country. They went to Mexico. Why? Simple, free trade now meant they could make their products in Mexico, exploit cheap labor, then ship those same products back into the US and sell them to US consumers for a premium profit. They fired the Americans, and hired Mexicans.
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Again, NAFTA had nothing to do with this. Free trade existed before NAFTA and will exist after. If Mexico had been an industrialized nation in the 50's you can bet that GM and Ford would have relocated there sooner.

ChrisBFRPKY said:
Now back to the unemployed auto workers left behind in Detroit. Most started out by using their unemployment insurance, until that ran out. Then they eventually signed up for food stamps and Government assistance. Any job they found was likely minimum wage and likely part time without benefits of any type. So now they get signed up for medicaid on the Governments tab. Since the only way they have left to make a living are their Government entitlements, certainly they vote for the Democrats, as they rally the low income communities pre-election. Instead of fixing the problem with the jobs, they create an oppressed group of people now reliant on Government assistance.
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Of course this overlooks that Liberals have proposed and tried to implement other solutions. Like retraining programs and making universities more affordable. Things that the Republicans have opposed at every turn.

ChrisBFRPKY said:
These are the same people who were hard working Americans contributing to society and paying taxes when they were auto workers. That's how a plantation works. You oppress a group of people and become their only hope of living, their only reason they survive.
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Except that they are not being oppressed. They are in a very unfortunate situation. One with few answers. The government cannot directly create jobs there and until the population gains new skills they will continue to not be very employable in a global economy.

ChrisBFRPKY said:
If that's not racist I don't know what is.
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Well alrighty. I'll say that it isn't racist. Detroit was an economic time bomb. Too large a city built around one industry with too many workers that were all under skilled for other jobs. It was bound to be a disaster from its inception.
 
Travis said:
It would be fair to say that I sure didn't care about it at all.
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I'd say that I saw little to nothing scandalous in the first place, much like the other Clinton "scandals".

The exception was the Lewinski thing - cheating on your wife with an intern is definitely not right.
 
Mumbles said:
I'd say that I saw little to nothing scandalous in the first place, much like the other Clinton "scandals".

The exception was the Lewinski thing - cheating on your wife with an intern is definitely not right.
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Fortunately Trump has never been tainted with any suggestion of sexual impropriety ;) :rolleyes:
 
Travis said:
It would be fair to say that I sure didn't care about it at all.
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That doesn't surprise me at all. You are highly partisan and so it's not surprising that you don't care about scandals coming from your team.
 
ChrisBFRPKY said:
Oh where to begin, there are so many prime examples. OK, let's look at Detroit. Democrat run and has been for a long time. What happened to Detroit? Motor City? I remember when it was called that. Auto factories everywhere. Jobs were plentiful. What happened?
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What happened indeed?

US automotive manufacturing is doing pretty well and the top selling models are all pretty much made in the US even though they have foreign sounding names.

Of course it's not necessarily in Detroit anymore. It's Kentucky and Ohio and other places.

And of course modern car plants are just much less labour intensive than the old ones were. So to make the same number of vehicles just takes fewer people.

NAFTA isn't going to change that significantly
 
Archie Gemmill Goal said:
And of course modern car plants are just much less labour intensive than the old ones were. So to make the same number of vehicles just takes fewer people.
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^ This

Even if Trump cuts off America's nose to spite its face and increases tariffs, reduces imports and forces companies to make things in the US (and damn the cost), it still won't require anything like the number of people it used to.

Heck, given that they'll have to use expensive US labour instead of cheap foreign labour, there's even greater incentive to automate, not least so that they can remain somewhat competitive on the global stage.
 
phiwum said:
That doesn't surprise me at all. You are highly partisan and so it's not surprising that you don't care about scandals coming from your team.
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It's more likely he doesn't care about them because he can see, as can most of us, that the 'scandals' were obviously manufactured.
 
ChrisBFRPKY said:
Instead of fixing the problem with the jobs, they create an oppressed group of people now reliant on Government assistance. These are the same people who were hard working Americans contributing to society and paying taxes when they were auto workers. That's how a plantation works. You oppress a group of people and become their only hope of living, their only reason they survive. If that's not racist I don't know what is.
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Yes, you clearly don't know what "racist" means.
 
ChrisBFRPKY said:
Kinda like saying all Trump supporters are racists huh..Chris B.
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Just so you know, when you say people say that "all Trump supporters are racist" you're terribly misinformed.

I'm thinking though, that you don't care and much like well, ALL Trump supporters, you fail to see grey area.
 
uke2se said:
It's more likely he doesn't care about them because he can see, as can most of us, that the 'scandals' were obviously manufactured.
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With due respect, the fact that Hillary violated rules by having her own email server, very likely to avoid FOIA requests, is troublesome for anyone who prefers transparency. That she seemed to prevaricate about the presence of classified information is also troublesome.

I think she would've been a decent president. I also think that her (more or less understandable) tendency for privacy was troubling, especially when it leads to apparent violations of rules. We might wonder whether transparency is appropriate for a Secretary of State, but that's another matter.

The email thing bothered me, not because a private server can't be secure or because the gov't does security better, but because it seemed intended to avoid transparency rules.
 
Skeptical Greg said:
Right... All the stuff about her husband, and her ignoring it, was all made up..
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It's a strange world when having a husband who is a philanderer and alleged sexual predator is disqualifying but being a philanderer and proudly boasting about sexual assualts oneself is not
 
The Don said:
Fortunately Trump has never been tainted with any suggestion of sexual impropriety ;) :rolleyes:
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Well, Trump was and is manifestly unqualified, so I'm not even putting him up for comparison.

And just to be clear, while Bill Clinton counted as "a Clinton scandal", it was clearly *his* scandal, not hers.
 
Argumemnon said:
What are you babbling about? You say they are racists now, then provide the evidence and reasoning. Stop avoiding the meat of the issue.
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It's called "deflection" which is a dishonest way to try and avoid having to make an argument supporting their opinion.
 
The Don said:
It's a strange world when having a husband who is a philanderer and alleged sexual predator is disqualifying but being a philanderer and proudly boasting about sexual assualts oneself is not
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Whoever said it was disqualifying? What disqualifies Hillary is that she didn't win 270 electoral votes. There were many factors going into that, although I suspect the main one was that most people wanted a change.
 
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