- I'm not sure how much I'm allowed to quote, nor the proper thread for this quote, but the following seems like it ought to go somewhere (don't be a smartalec), and this is my best guess...
Intermezzo: Can Specific Descriptions of Resuscitation Procedures Be Explained by Factors Like Prior Knowledge? Perceptions during NDEs of specific correct details about doctors or nurses involved in a resuscitation procedure usually provide enough evidence to justify the conclusion that those perceptions cannot be attributed to chance hits or prior knowledge. Both cardiologist Michael Sabom and medical investigator and PhD-level nurse Penny Sartori have examined more generally whether NDErs’ descriptions of resuscitation procedures are, on average, more correct than the descriptions of cardiac patients who have not had NDEs. If NDErs’ accounts were not more correct, it would follow that their perceptions were the result of chance or prior knowledge. As material for comparison, Sabom used a group of cardiac patients not reporting NDEs who had never been resuscitated. For her investigation, Sartori used a group of patients who had likewise never reported an NDE but had been resuscitated. Despite the difference in comparison groups, both investigators determined that the NDErs’ descriptions were markedly more correct and believable than those of the comparison groups. For example, the NDErs reported many more accurate details, and the comparison groups of patients without near-death experiences made greater errors in their descriptions. These latter patients did not know, for instance, on which parts of the body the electrical “pads” (small, self-adhering cushions) or “paddles” (metal disks) of a defibrillator were placed, or they thought that an electric shock was a standard component of the procedure. Some patients from the comparison groups had no idea about resuscitation procedures
at all, and others had a distorted notion that was based on popular TV shows. Both investigators concluded from their studies that normal factors like prior knowledge, guesswork, or pure coincidence do not offer an acceptable explanation for correct extrasensory perceptions of resuscitation procedures. In her blog of October 5, 2011, Sartori wrote: “Anomalous well documented cases like this cannot be explained by current scientific explanations.” SOURCES Sabom, M. B. (1982). Recollections of death: A medical investigation. New York, NY: Harper & Row. Sartori, P. (2008). The near-death experiences of hospitalized intensive care patients: A five year clinical study. Lewiston, UK: Edwin Mellen Press.
Rivas, Titus; Dirven,Anny; Smit,Rudolf. The Self Does Not Die: Verified Paranormal Phenomena from Near-Death Experiences (pp. 8-9). International Association for Near-Death Studies. Kindle Edition.
