Are all Trump supporters racists?

[Skeptical Greg]

Spoken like a true privileged white male heterosexual.
.....

You forgot gun hugging....

 

[applecorped]

It becomes clearer why Trump won.

 

[The Big Dog]

It becomes clearer why Trump won.

Hell it is becoming clearer that the dems are going to lose the midterms and maybe the 2020 at this point.

Newsflash: dems have lost touch with rural middle class voters.
Response: everyone who voted for trump is teh bigot!

 

[tyr_13]

Hell it is becoming clearer that the dems are going to lose the midterms and maybe the 2020 at this point.

Newsflash: dems have lost touch with rural middle class voters.
Response: everyone who voted for trump is teh bigot!

Are you finally done pretending to be a Sanders supporter then?

Nice cherry picking too. I see a lot of people in this thread answering 'no' including the OP.

 

[The Big Dog]

Many folks say ALL Trump supporters are racists and bigots.

I disagree.

I think many of them are. But the majority are not.

However, EVERY Trump supporter I know or have encountered in person or on the internet, is a racist and a bigot.

Are you finally done pretending to be a Sanders supporter then?

Nice cherry picking too. I see a lot of people in this thread answering 'no' including the OP.

Talk about cherry picking, ya missed the last line did ya?

'K.

I assume that most sanders supporters are horrified at the extensive whining the Shillaries have done the last two weeks.

 

[tyr_13]

Talk about cherry picking, ya missed the last line did ya?

'K.

I assume that most sanders supporters are horrified at the extensive whining the Shillaries have done the last two weeks.

I didn't miss the last line. His post still contradicts your assertion though.

Basically he's saying he assumes some are good people.

And are you still pretending to be a Sanders supporter or not? It's getting confusing.

EDIT: That last line is a sampling bias example. The only people he was able to identify as Trump supporters are those openly bigoted towards a race. This doesn't mean that all the Trump supports he's spoken to are, but that he was unable to identify them as Trump supporters. It's an easy error to make, and is exacerbated by things like the loudest supporters also being people who have displayed racist words or actions.

 

[Skeptic Tank]

All human beings are racist, but Trump supporters on the whole are nowhere near as racist as I'd like them to be.

 

[phiwum]

'Almost certainly not' and 'we don't know' aren't mutually exclusive.

Right, they're not mutually exclusive.

As it happens, I know a non-racist Trump supporter. You might not believe me, but my buddy is sufficient evidence for me, so in fact I know that some Trump supporters aren't racist.

 

[Skeptic Ginger]

....This, on the other hand... you say that like Trump's promises mean something.

This is a bit of a mix of things, though. Soaring student debt, for example, isn't Trump or his administration's fault, whether or not they address it. Furthermore, Trump's already given notable reason to believe that he's breaking a bunch of his campaign promises. Going past that, the Senate and House being dominated by Republicans with goals like what you pointed out is of notably more real concern in a number of ways.

Still, to single out that last bit, Trump trying to charge into outright war is closer to an expection than a mere unsubstantiated possibility. Whether Congress gives him enough rope to make it official is a notably different matter.

The alt-right that brought Trump to power and are now using him to lead their quests most certainly can carry out those threats. It's been a long time leading up to this. It didn't happen overnight.

 

[Skeptic Ginger]

A significant number of his supporters are racist.

And the rest of them didn't care enough about it to not vote for him.

 

[Joe Random]

It becomes clearer why Trump won.

Yup.

I try to tell myself that the membership at ISF is not a representative sample of the population at large. Because if it is, then we're going to see a lot of red in all three branches of government for a long time.

That Jonathan Pie Youtube clip should be mandatory viewing every time we fire up a browser window, every day for the next two years.

 

[Skeptic Ginger]

Probably not, but they voted for one. They need to own that.

No, they are not all racist. But they are all terrible people. It just happens there are many ways to be terrible.

No, not all Trump supporters are racist. But for every last one of them, Trump's racism was not a deal-breaker.

All that too ^

 

[thaiboxerken]

How will Trump's presidency affect me? Probably not much, myself. However, my fiancee could very well lose her health insurance and die (she is very sick right now with several surgery related issues). If it wasn't for Obama care, she would be dead right now. And if you're wondering why we just don't get married so she can have insurance, you're stupid and probably don't take marriage very seriously.

 

[Minoosh]

You know what, you're right.

I'm not a Muslim.

I'm not a woman.

I'm not a homosexual.

I'm not Hispanic.

I'm not an illegal immigrant.

I don't work for the media.

Trump would never hurt me. I'm safe.

**** the rest of em'. I'll be safe.

Substitute "he" for the name and you'd have a pretty good poem.

ETA:

My comment had no hyperbole.

But yours did include some nonsense about GITMO.

Not GITMO. Guatemala.

 

[Meadmaker]

Yup.

I try to tell myself that the membership at ISF is not a representative sample of the population at large. Because if it is, then we're going to see a lot of red in all three branches of government for a long time.

That Jonathan Pie Youtube clip should be mandatory viewing every time we fire up a browser window, every day for the next two years.

I had never heard of Jonathan Pie, but I watched the video.

It's a very good video. People should watch it. And think about it.

 

[tyr_13]

It becomes clearer why Trump won.

Yup.

I try to tell myself that the membership at ISF is not a representative sample of the population at large. Because if it is, then we're going to see a lot of red in all three branches of government for a long time.

That Jonathan Pie Youtube clip should be mandatory viewing every time we fire up a browser window, every day for the next two years.

It really, really doesn't.

As much as I think people thinking all Trump supporters are racist isn't helpful and is a negative, it is not, from all I've been able to figure out, why Trump won. There are many factors, and I think that's a relatively minor one.

I've been trying very hard not to read into the election only what I wanted to hear. I don't want to just reinforce what I already believed; I want to find the truth. One terrible problem is that other people, even on the 'winning side', will be predisposed to see only what they wanted to see. For example, some are going to say that the election was proof that America is massively racist while others are going to say that it's a refuting of progressive ideas in general. Both of these things have evidence against them.

People not getting the message you advocate doesn't mean they aren't willing to listen. People not agreeing doesn't make one right. It doesn't mean they aren't giving it a fair shake.

So I've been listening to why people think they voted for Trump, and while some (well, in fact many) are in fact racist reasons, others are not. There are non-racist Trump voters. Trying to bring this back to the OP anyway.

Something I saw earlier was the implication that minorities 'can't be racist'. This is an idea that isn't as popular on the left or with progressives as Trump supporters and other conservatives think it is, but it does exist. Many of us on the left have for a long time combated this thinking in our fellow liberals. Yes, minorities can be racist. As a point of fact, I know some black Trump voters who did so for extremely racist reasons. I've been exposed to some horrid racism from black people, both against me and against minorities who are not black. Latinos can be racist. Asians can be racist. Part of Trump's appeal was people heard what they wanted to hear, and for example, some black people ignored the few racist things Trump said about blacks and approved of the racist things he said about 'Mexicans' (like the judge in his fraud case) or refugees from the Middle East.

 

[Aridas]

The alt-right that brought Trump to power and are now using him to lead their quests most certainly can carry out those threats. It's been a long time leading up to this. It didn't happen overnight.

Unfortunately.

 

[Skeptical Greg]

And the rest of them didn't care enough about it to not vote for him.

It didn't seem to bother Hillary supporters that she is a rapist enabler..

 

[The Big Dog]

I didn't miss the last line. His post still contradicts your assertion though.

Basically he's saying he assumes some are good people.

And are you still pretending to be a Sanders supporter or not? It's getting confusing.

EDIT: That last line is a sampling bias example. The only people he was able to identify as Trump supporters are those openly bigoted towards a race. This doesn't mean that all the Trump supports he's spoken to are, but that he was unable to identify them as Trump supporters. It's an easy error to make, and is exacerbated by things like the loudest supporters also being people who have displayed racist words or actions.

Say you learned about cherry picking.

Nice defense tho of the silly thread. Not all trump supporters are racists just everyone I have ever met!



Not all Shillaries are whiners either I assume.

 

[logger]

If you are low income and you need birth control, funding and clinics are becoming scarce in some areas.

Stop screwing?

If you are black and worried the police are a little trigger happy, no worries, Trump is just going to add more cops in your town.

Less police would make it better?