Gable Tostee

[Hard Cheese]

As I said in my first post there is a far bit of dung flying around in here, so its time to lift the lid and help you see the truth.

Summary of the Gable Tostee Case

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I only snip your post to save thread space.

Thank you very much for posting this detailed and clearly very well informed summary, it's very much appreciated

 

[cullennz]

My post was on topic with a question attached. Samson's was about a different case altogether.

Good attempt, but another fail.

BTW I reported Samson's post and I'm certain my last post will end up in AAH with his.

Why did you report his post?

 

[Samson]

I only snip your post to save thread space.

Thank you very much for posting this detailed and clearly very well informed summary, it's very much appreciated

I couldn't agree more, when I started the thread I thought something off piste might be going on.
Of course there is a bit of jail time he did to keep the character assessment in check.

 

[lionking]

Why did you report his post?

It was *********** off topic. Did you ever read the MA?

 

[cullennz]

It was *********** off topic. Did you ever read the MA?

I've never reported anyone on any forum in my life because I tend not to be post frigid

But I will remember you're intense sticking to the rules now every time I see one of your posts.

Every one

 

[lionking]

I've never reported anyone on any forum in my life because I tend not to be post frigid

But I will remember you're intense sticking to the rules now every time I see one of your posts.

Every one

Oh good for you. You realise that this post of yours is off topic? As is mine of course. If you are "post frigid" whatever the **** that means, go ahead and report yourself. I've done that myself in the past.

 

[cullennz]

Oh good for you. You realise that this post of yours is off topic? As is mine of course. If you are "post frigid" whatever the **** that means, go ahead and report yourself. I've done that myself in the past.

I'm not.

I'm easy going. Don't report anyone.

It's fine. You rightly reported Samson for some pedantic rule.

All good.

Will probably happen again now

 

[Samson]

Let me explain in the context of the travails of Gable Tostee.
I was thinking as the jury deliberated that it must be hung and probably stay hung like this thread, given there was no debate as to how she died.
However, since a verdict was reached, one side prevailed, and of course we had the unique experience of seeing a man who had a hiatus at that point. I doubt this has happened before. That must have been agony for Tostee unless he had some inside info.
A guilty verdict in murder has an automatic right to be appealed in NZ and presumably also in Australia, so I was already thinking about an appeal, and figured his goose would be cooked.
An appeal court is a disaster for a defendant, because entitlement to believe anything by a jury is sacrosanct and almost unchallengeable as I pointed out earlier, and that got me thinking of another case....

In fact if I recall, I found it useful to refer to that case to explain that the rights and wrongs have a firewall between trial and appeal, even when incontrovertible facts are tabled in favour of the defendant.

 

[The Atheist]

Don't get what people want.

Rightly or wrongly the dudes life is screwed.

Isn't that enough

Sure. I'd just like to make sure it stays screwed.

He's being well paid for the privilege - seems fair.

You use of luckily screams bias like a cockatoo.

It was meant to. I very rarely say something I don't intend.

The loss of physical self control is what I am tlaking , not their emotional reactions.

Yet you know absolutely nothing about her physical state. As I said, and is 100% factual, not all people will have the same reaction to the same level of alcohol.

You seem to be very adept at ignoring facts inconvenient with your analysis.

Ive said that all along, and you're trying to twist it into something else.

No, I'm looking at the parts you're avoiding.

You have no idea what her mental or physical state was and you will not be allowed to escape it.

People who do that to bolster their arguments lose credibility.

As against people who ignore facts - where do they sit?

You're entitled to your opinion, and Im entitled to debunk it, as you are entitled to do likewise. That is the nature of forums. If you dont debunk in a credible consistent manner, and your theories do not reflect real life experience or knowledge, then your credibility becomes suspect.

And if you keep repeating the same thing over the course of several years, does it suddenly become true?

How is this relevant, let alone a piece of the puzzle?

Is it possible, or is it impossible?

She wanted to crap, so suicided?

Are you claiming she committed suicide now?

Lol. Please, dont insult my intelligence ...

That juxtaposition works for me.

In the absence of knowing the truth, you dont make it up, you err on the side of caution. Refer Blackstone's Formulation, and the Presumption of Innocence.

I have a copy of Blackstone's formulation as the header to my website.

He's been found innocent, so Blackstone's happy and so am I.

Innocent in the eyes of the law does not equate to morally innocent.

I am here to debunk fallacious comments about the case, not talk about irrelevant feelings.

Pity you're failing so spectacularly.

You are so one-eyed about the case I have absolutely the strongest suspicion about both your motives and identity.

I dont like people like Warriana Wright...

Yes, I've noted the strong misogyny evident in all of the Eric Thomas supporters. Women are bitches, amirite?

Why was Eric Thomas banned from so many clubs when he was known as Gable Tostee? Such an innocent dude, it's hard to figure.

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who think they can say and do whatever they like, where they like, because that is why society is decaying.

Man, I can sympathise with you. All those centuries, nay, millennia! that women had no say at all, and 40 years of equality is all it took to destroy the fabric of society.

Yeah, those bitches are causing the decay of society.

Heck, I bet you wish you coulda voted for The Don and just grab them by the pussy.

the fact the you make reference to his body doesnt bode well for your credibility. It becomes harder to take you seriously.

I really don't give a toss about whether you take me seriously - I think it's hysterical that the pseudo-bodybuilder Tinder stud who roots hundreds of women a year now shares a body with Peter Griffin.

Summary of the Gable Tostee Case

What was that I said about copypasta of the same posts over the years?

 

[cullennz]

His life is screwed Atheist. Probably rightly.

But seriously.

What do you want?

 

[GlennCashQC]

Sure. I'd just like to make sure it stays screwed. He's being well paid for the privilege - seems fair.

You seem to be a vindictive hater. He is not being paid well, a lot of that money is going toward his legal bills, which you seem to conveniently forget, was foisted upon him by a veangful media and prosecution. Why should he pay out of his own pocket when he did nothing wrong? Since he was roped into this circus, it is only fitting he use it and profit from it as compensation.

You seem to be very adept at ignoring facts inconvenient with your analysis.

I do not ignore facts - I ignore irrelevancies. you seem unable to distinguish between the two. You bring up a lot of irrelevancies, because you dont understand law. It's nothing to be ashamed of, but berating me because of your ignorance doesnt make you look good.

No, I'm looking at the parts you're avoiding. You have no idea what her mental or physical state was and you will not be allowed to escape it.

Allowed? Lol the case is over, not subject to appeal. END OF STORY. Seriously, how many times do you have to be told this pertinent fact? Wright was a nutcase - she had low self esteem, was a self harmer covered in scars, and her life ending act was in keeping with her unhinged behaviour which was recorded by Gable. something there you cannot understand?

And if you keep repeating the same thing over the course of several years, does it suddenly become true?

Years? the same thing was repeated here over a few days , because people like you cannot see the error of their thinking. Ultimately it is no skin off my nose if you continue to wallow in your own ignorance.

Are you claiming she committed suicide now?

Considering the outlandlish claims, you and others make, why cant I also? Quid prod quo. A depth of analysis might make you realise that Wrights actions were not considered appropriate given the circumstances. Suicide is a possible explanation. As are other theories I guess, which I have alluded to above.

I have a copy of Blackstone's formulation as the header to my website.He's been found innocent, so Blackstone's happy and so am I. Innocent in the eyes of the law does not equate to morally innocent.

Actually it does. He is morally innocent. Laws are a reflection of our morals. There is no law he transgressed by showing a higher level of indifference to what happened than what you would. Not all of us are over emotional irrational people. If we were, who would ever become an astronaut, or fighter pilot? I identify completely with what he did, because I too mistrust the Police, and am not fond of people with no self control. But these are things people like you just wont ever understand. Same as they dont understand politics, or what forces control an economy, or how people are ultimately sheeple and promulgate the serf/overlord paradigm through their own laziness and indifference to their own existence. Food on the table, Whiskey on the shelf, and crap on Faecesbook. Whilst all is good in your world, you couldn't care less about the future, let alone whether people are falsely imprisoned.

Pity you're failing so spectacularly.

Nope I am winning.

You are so one-eyed about the case I have absolutely the strongest suspicion about both your motives and identity.

Isnt crime exciting? I'm not surprised you think I am one eyed given your incapacity to to understand the legal points, and evidenced by all your emotional irrelevancies. Its unlikely you're capable of seeing things the way I do. I accept that. You should too.

Yes, I've noted the strong misogyny evident in all of the Eric Thomas supporters. Women are bitches, amirite?

I have noted the strong Femnazi victimhood in the Wright supporter camp too.

Why was Eric Thomas banned from so many clubs when he was known as Gable Tostee?

Who cares? See there you go again. Irrelevancies. I bet the DPP tried to introduce all sorts of character assassinations like you are doing - predictably the judge would not allow it. Likewise, I am ignoring your guff. I see what you are doing - resorting to twaddle because your argument has no legs. tsk tak

Such an innocent dude, it's hard to figure.

Indeed. If you are so convinced you know otherwise, ring the DPP and give them your evidence, Im sure they'd like to vindicate their laughable performance by instigating a re trial and convicting Gable. Ring now, free steak knives for the first 20 callers.

Heck, I bet you wish you coulda voted for The Don and just grab them by the pussy.

Who cares?

I really don't give a toss about whether you take me seriously

Or anyone it seems, given the twaddle you post.

I think it's hysterical that the pseudo-bodybuilder Tinder stud who roots hundreds of women a year now shares a body with Peter Griffin.

Is that a dig at his weight? See you cant help yourself , can you? Your puerile reversion to Tostee's weight again. Irrelevant. You cant help your feminine side. Yep. I dont take you seriously.

 

[cullennz]

I'll ask this one more time because Atheist and others refuse to answer it.

The pricks life is screwed

Rightly wrongly doesn't matter.

What more do you want?

 

[Sideroxylon]

nm

 

[cullennz]

nm

Tostee isn't a victim.

He is a complete prick

Just not a killer

 

[lionking]

I'll ask this one more time because Atheist and others refuse to answer it.

The pricks life is screwed

Rightly wrongly doesn't matter.

What more do you want?

I've answered. You just don't like the answer.

I want the coroner to do their job.

I also don't care that his life is screwed.

 

[The Atheist]

His life is screwed Atheist. Probably rightly.

But seriously.

What do you want?

I did already answer that, but I'll repeat it:

I'm perfectly happy to see his life be screwed.

You seem to be a vindictive hater.

Other people who have said that to me include:

Ian Cornelius - "Inventor" of the Fuelstar scam.
The CEO of Ninox, producers of Sensing Murder.
The CEO of the NZ Medical Council when I called him out on inserting his christianity into medical ethics.
Lots of others of that ilk.

What can I say? I despise people who feed off corpses and people in poverty. It's one of those weird personality defects, but unlike Eric Thomas, my personality defects haven't killed anyone.

He is not being paid well, a lot of that money is going toward his legal bills, which you seem to conveniently forget,

No, I hadn't forgotten, because I'd be extreme;y surprised if mumsy and daddy weren't paying for them.

Allowed? Lol the case is over, not subject to appeal. END OF STORY.

Are you blind? I've said on several occasions I'm quite happy with the outcome. She's dead, he's free, but his life has been destroyed.

Instant karma.

Seriously, how many times do you have to be told this pertinent fact? Wright was a nutcase - she had low self esteem, was a self harmer covered in scars, and her life ending act was in keeping with her unhinged behaviour which was recorded by Gable.

Fits nicely with his autism, narcissistic personality disorder and misogyny.

They should've got married.

Years? the same thing was repeated here over a few days ,...

Funny how I've seen it stamped 2014....

Suicide is a possible explanation. As are other theories I guess, which I have alluded to above.

In other words, you're happy to put forward outlandish theories while laughing off suggestions that are more likely than yours.

Nice trick.

Actually it does. He is morally innocent.

In your (and the fanboy team's) eyes, he is.

The rest of humankind, not so much.

Laws are a reflection of our morals.

You go by a name with "QC" in it, quote Blackstone's formulation then come out with that nonsense.

Adultery & drugs. One is immoral yet legal the other is not in the slightest immoral, but is illegal.

You're a legal genius, no wonder you've been picked as a mouthpiece for the Eric Thomas aka Gable Tostee Defence League.

I identify completely with what he did,...

"Nuff said.

"Parlay" goes the call:

I have noted the strong Femnazi victimhood in the Wright supporter camp too.

 

[GlennCashQC]

I did already answer that, but I'll repeat it:I'm perfectly happy to see his life be screwed.

Take a bow, that tells us all we need to know. I myself don't take any gratification from seeing people treated unfairly by the "system".

What can I say? I despise people who feed off corpses and people in poverty. It's one of those weird personality defects, but unlike Eric Thomas, my personality defects haven't killed anyone.

Tostee killed no one, and despite clearly saying "you are ok with it", clearly it has unhinged you to the point where you feel to constantly make the same irrelevant repetitive derogatory personal remarks about the guy that are plainly false.

Are you blind? I've said on several occasions I'm quite happy with the outcome. She's dead, he's free, but his life has been destroyed.Instant karma.

She unfortunately destroyed her own life. Unlike you, I dont feel the need to denigrate a participant in this tragedy.

Fits nicely with his autism, narcissistic personality disorder and misogyny.They should've got married.

Again, irrelevancies - argument tank has run dry.(1)

In other words, you're happy to put forward outlandish theories while laughing off suggestions that are more likely than yours.

Nothing outlandish about it at all. I explained why. As usual with you there is no take up of info.

You go by a name with "QC" in it, quote Blackstone's formulation then come out with that nonsense.

More personal attacks - argument tank has run dry.(2) you clearly dont understand Blackstones principle, which emboldens the irony of your usage of it.

Adultery & drugs. One is immoral yet legal the other is not in the slightest immoral, but is illegal.

Drugs are indeed, immoral when you see the effect they have on society. There are laws against drugs, thus indicating society does not morally condone them. Simple for intelligent law abiding people who lead productive lives to understand. The law/morality symbiosis has also been explained to your previously, but again, no uptake. I can only presume from your lack of foresight you are quite young, and still have a lot to learn.

You're a legal genius, no wonder you've been picked as a mouthpiece for the Eric Thomas aka Gable Tostee Defence League.

Thanks ,many people have said I am a genius throughout my life from as early as 3 years of age. Again, though, a personal remark - your argument tank has run dry.(3).

You are not here to discuss the case, but vent your hate against men. There are forums for that I could direct you to, if you like.

 

[The Atheist]

...nothing...

When you come up with something new, I'll respond.

It's pretty clear that your main effort now is centred around having the last word, posting the same stuff that you &/or other/s have been parroting for over two years now.

http://www.smh.com.au/national/warr...and-rise-of-gable-tostee-20161113-gsofut.html

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=11747902

No matter how hard you try, you will fail to paint St Gable, aka Eric Thomas as the innocent little petal you attempt to.

Being an Aussie, you may not understand this, but all the Kiwis will:

Bugger!

 

[Shiner]

Drugs are indeed, immoral when you see the effect they have on society. There are laws against drugs, thus indicating society does not morally condone them.

I think I'm going to ignore your claims of 'genuis' for now.

You attach morality tags to chemicals?

You should do some research on drug laws, methinks.

 

[cullennz]

I still don't get where he is rich comes from.

He was a carpet layer living in an apartment