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Rural people in my state vote 100% Republican. Only a porn movie of Trump and a 15 year old would have stopped that.

Also: "I was taught in college that Americans choose their President like they choose laundry soap, w a knee-jerk brand loyalty devoid of reason." :D
 
theprestige said:
Here's one explanation that seems reasonable.

I'd like to get both of your takes on it.

http://www.cracked.com/blog/6-reasons-trumps-rise-that-no-one-talks-about/
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I read that a couple days ago on Facebook. It was one of the things that prompted the post I made that I quoted last page. (Well, two pages now, that's what I get for making such a reference.)

The massive problem of course as others have stated is that Trump's ideas aren't going to really help them.

Their way of life is dying, but it isn't dying because of the government and the government can't undo it dying. The things it can do to mitigate the effects are things Clinton wanted to do. Their jobs aren't coming back. The coal mine will not reopen, nor should it. The market killed it. The jobs that went overseas aren't even going to stay overseas; they're just outright disappearing. This is a market change in many ways not unlike the decrease in need for farm labor or horse jobs going away.

In the mid term, we need to come to terms with the fact that the world is rapidly entering a post-labor economy. There will simply not be enough 'jobs' that need done for everyone to need to work, even the able bodied. The mechanisms we've developed to distribute wealth and work break down when there isn't incentive to hire people.

We can move towards Star Trek or Starship Troopers. Let's hope we survive whatever transition is needed.
 
sunmaster14 said:
This cartoon sums up the idea rather nicely.
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Trump's ego would insist that he go first, and his lack of self control would have him attempt to pull the trigger 6 times.

Also, Clinton wants to take everyone's guns, so there shouldn't even be one above her name. :p
 
Cl1mh4224rd said:
Trump's ego would insist that he go first, and his lack of self control would have him attempt to pull the trigger 6 times.

Also, Clinton wants to take everyone's guns, so there shouldn't even be one above her name. :p
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If the metaphor is about making conservative heads explode, the cartoon is very accurate.
 
sunmaster14 said:
Wow, you really don't get it. Trump's supporters don't give a **** about how he behaved as a private citizen and a businessman. And there is no good reason why they should.
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Well, half right. That they don't care is obvious.

It might require a level of civility and sophistication beyond their reach, though, for them to understand why the should care.
 
Trump's strongest support is from dead white guys...

A few weeks ago, following the Republican Iowa caucuses, I pointed out an eerie correlation in the voting data. It seems that Donald Trump performed the best in places where middle-aged whites are dying the fastest.

That wasn't a fluke. The relationship between white mortality and Trump support is real, as the fresh results from Super Tuesday confirmed.
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http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...redicts-whether-people-vote-for-donald-trump/
 
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Tero said:
Rural people in my state vote 100% Republican. Only a porn movie of Trump and a 15 year old would have stopped that. Also: "I was taught in college that Americans choose their President like they choose laundry soap, w a knee-jerk brand loyalty devoid of reason." :D
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Let's not get ahead of ourselves here.
 
Fast Eddie B said:
I thought Trump's lies, and unwillingness to backtrack on them when they were pointed out, was disturbing. Almost sociopathic. But now I'm trying to wrap my mind around the fact that the whole thing might have been an act, an act which achieved its goal. If that IS the case, now that he's achieved his goal, maybe the act will change. We can only hope.
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The problem with this theory is that Trump's behavior during the campaign is 100% consistent with his behavior since he became an adult. If your theory is true, the actual person and the act have united into one indivisible whole.
 
acbytesla said:
... I expect him now that he's going to be President that he will be moderate to hard right. Not because he believes in those positions per se, but that he is now surrounded by people who do.
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Especially since Pence will have his ear and Pence is the very definition of hard right.
 
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theprestige said:
Here's one explanation that seems reasonable.

I'd like to get both of your takes on it.

http://www.cracked.com/blog/6-reasons-trumps-rise-that-no-one-talks-about/
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If I may interject, the most important phrase in that article is:
The rural folk with the Trump signs in their yards say their way of life is dying ...
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... and they're right. All societies around the world are undergoing massive change and change is not easy to respond to in a positive way when it affects your own life in a negative manner. It is not surprising that economic disruption leads to social unrest. It's too bad that the person least able to lead us in this time of change will be the President.
 
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trustbutverify said:
You really think so? I think they lie down for him unless his national approval numbers drop through the floor, which I feel is unlikely.
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Yes, Republicans will throw him under the bus as soon as they see an opening. Pence is the guy they really want to have a President.
 
trustbutverify said:
You really think so? I think they lie down for him unless his national approval numbers drop through the floor, which I feel is unlikely.
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I don't think it is unlikely. Remember, Trump is disliked by a large majority of people even though they voted for him. As he fails to deliver on his promises and the effects of Republican policies start to bite people in the backside, turning on the head screw will be all too easy.
 
Argumemnon said:
Trump got the Zombie vote?
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Well, he did exhort the dying to hold on a little longer so they could vote for him.

But I think the demographics being discussed pertained to the very senior end of the scale, where he had his highest age demographic and the very white part of the color palette, where he also had his strongest support. Old White Guys are dying. Ha ha. Get it?
 
SezMe said:
I don't think it is unlikely. Remember, Trump is disliked by a large majority of people even though they voted for him. As he fails to deliver on his promises and the effects of Republican policies start to bite people in the backside, turning on the head screw will be all too easy.
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Sounds good. Maybe too good.
 
trustbutverify said:
Sounds good. Maybe too good.
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Even when Republican policies screw the people that voted for them, they still convince themselves that it was the Democrats fault. Remember GW's failures with the economy? Republicans sure don't, they remember GW economic policies as rainbows and unicorns.
 
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