Hillary Clinton is Done: part 4

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Captain_Swoop said:
CNN are giving it to Trump based on early voting in NC
http://us.cnn.com/2016/11/07/politics/north-carolina-early-voting-2016/index.html

As of Saturday, the final day of early voting, slightly fewer Democrats had cast ballots while 125,000 more Republicans have voted this time. If this election shapes up like the last, Donald Trump would win North Carolina.
CNN analysis of early voting suggests that Clinton has underperformed President Obama's 2012 performance in the Tar Heel State and Trump has outperformed Mitt Romney.
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It sucks that NC Republicans are getting away with voter suppression tactics.
 
Captain_Swoop said:
CNN are giving it to Trump based on early voting in NC
http://us.cnn.com/2016/11/07/politics/north-carolina-early-voting-2016/index.html

As of Saturday, the final day of early voting, slightly fewer Democrats had cast ballots while 125,000 more Republicans have voted this time. If this election shapes up like the last, Donald Trump would win North Carolina.
CNN analysis of early voting suggests that Clinton has underperformed President Obama's 2012 performance in the Tar Heel State and Trump has outperformed Mitt Romney.
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Very, very worrying :(

If that trend holds then that likely means that Nevada and Florida swing Trump and maybe move Michigan, Wisconsin, New Hampshire, Minnesota his way to.
 
The Don said:
Very, very worrying :(

If that trend holds then that likely means that Nevada and Florida swing Trump and maybe move Michigan, Wisconsin, New Hampshire, Minnesota his way to.
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No. Black vote is down is down in NC specifically because of what Republicans did there. It is up in Florida and the Hispanic vote is way up. And Donald has very likely already lost Nevada.
 
thaiboxerken said:
It sucks that NC Republicans are getting away with voter suppression tactics.
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Well, yes. And that's another issue.

The Roberts Court basically ignored reality when they invalidated part of the Voter Rights Act. The majority opinion was invalid, and was shown to be incorrect within hours of their decision. And the truth is, we knew this would happen. Groups like the NAACP were ready for it, and groups like Moral Monday have sprung up against it.

All those people in those lines you saw? They know what's up. They can only get away with this nonsense for so long.

It's actually kinda amazing, to me, that the GOP has decided to tie itself to open white supremacy.
 
I'll be picking up my wife after work and we'll go vote. Be very glad to give Hillary my vote as will my wife. In about sixteen hours we'll have a fairly good idea who the winner is and tomorrow morning at this time we'll know for sure.

Fingers crossed!
 
Mumbles said:
The Roberts Court basically ignored reality when they invalidated part of the Voter Rights Act. .
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I don't think Roberts and his conservative justices were ignoring reality at all. They knew what they were doing. IT is just more evidence that Republicans appoint hacks to the SCOTUS.
 
Easiest vote ever. I was #10 in my precinct with a substantial line already forming behind me. Polls open at 7, I was out of there by 7:05, with a long line.

Good sign at least here at home.
 
NoahFence said:
Easiest vote ever. I was #10 in my precinct with a substantial line already forming behind me. Polls open at 7, I was out of there by 7:05, with a long line.

Good sign at least here at home.
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I live in Philadelphia, close to the city center. I haven't checked out my precinct yet (there's always no line there), but a friend of mine a neighborhood over just posted on facebook that she just voted and waited in line for 40 minutes. So assuming she posted immediately after voting, she got in line a few minutes after the polls opened.
 
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The Big Dog said:
WIKILEAKS=> CNN BUSTED! Got Complete List of Questions for TRUMP Interview from DNC

So corrupt, CNN a full scale assault on the Truth on behalf of the Clinton Crime Family.
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Aren't you cute.

Now explain why CNN would need or want help from anyone to come up with difficult and challenging questions to ask Trump?

It isn't like it would be a problem. Every time he opens his mouth Trump sets himself up for those.

The tricky part would be to come up with softballs that even he couldn't screw up.
 
thaiboxerken said:
Don't you know, health care in the USA was Utopian before Obamacare....
Republicans did not whine about rising premiums and health costs before Obama came along and only do so now because it is political to them. Also, premiums are having a major hike this next year because the Republicans sabotaged a major provision of the ACA, which is was the "risk corridor." That is their goal, to hamstring the ACA then claim that the ACA was a bad idea.

It is the same thing they do to government, in general. Break it, then claim it never worked.
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And everybody's favorite far-right poster here is explicit enough about this that it might as well be the new "conservative" motto-
logger said:
Yes, welcome to gridlock. :)
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[In response to the idea of Hilary's becoming President]

Just for example...when a new Supreme Court justice was needed, and Obama, doing his job Constitutionally, nominated one, the cry from the right was "no, wait until after the election, let the people have their say!" (You'd think that if that was what the Founders intended, they'd have had SC Justices elected instead of nominated- so much for conservative strict-constructionists). Now, if the people have their say and elect Hilary, it's "welcome to gridlock!" The new far-right theory of government appears to be "we get our way, or nothing gets done, see?!!???!"; the face of the far-right is a combination of a childish pout and a thuggish sneer.
 
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bonzombiekitty said:
I live in Philadelphia, close to the city center. I haven't checked out my precinct yet (there's always no line there), but a friend of mine a neighborhood over just posted on facebook that she just voted and waited in line for 40 minutes. So assuming she posted immediately after voting, she got in line a few minutes after the polls opened.
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Gosh, that sucks. Here in Canada in the last couple of elections I waited no more than 5 minutes in line. And the booths were within 10 minute walking distance from home.
 
Argumemnon said:
Gosh, that sucks. Here in Canada in the last couple of elections I waited no more than 5 minutes in line. And the booths were within 10 minute walking distance from home.
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Yeah, it's weird to me too. When I vote, I never have to wait more than a couple minutes in line. But I usually get home from work a little earlier than most people so I often vote in a lull as everyone is commuting home - and in Philadelphia, most people live within a short walk to their polling location. My polling place is two blocks away.

At least it's not hours of waiting like some places. It astounds and angers me that it happens, but it does.

ETA: Friends just posted a picture of our polling station, there's at least 50 people in line. Dunno how quickly it's moving. Other reports from random friends in the city indicate that lines are longer than in 2012 and 2008.
 
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What is the range of number of people per polling station in the US? Perhaps there is a big variation, so a range might be informative.

I ask because in my 18 years of voting in the UK I have never had to queue once. I think there could have been up to 450 people at the one I used most often during the 15 hours the station was open, but turnout was normally around 75% of that.
 
gypsyjackson said:
What is the range of number of people per polling station in the US? Perhaps there is a big variation, so a range might be informative.

I ask because in my 18 years of voting in the UK I have never had to queue once. I think there could have been up to 450 people at the one I used most often during the 15 hours the station was open, but turnout was normally around 75% of that.
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Having to queue for hours to vote has the whiff of the third world about it but tbh the same has happened in some places here in the UK.

Another factor is that early voting is permitted in the US but it's restricted to a (tiny ?) minority of polling stations. People working shifts and/or very long hours would be prime candidates for early voting.
 
quadraginta said:
Aren't you cute.

Now explain why CNN would need or want help from anyone to come up with difficult and challenging questions to ask Trump?

It isn't like it would be a problem. Every time he opens his mouth Trump sets himself up for those.

The tricky part would be to come up with softballs that even he couldn't screw up.
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Oh dear... you did not read the link did you? No you didn't.

You really just asked why they would do something they actually did?

Remarkable.
 
gypsyjackson said:
What is the range of number of people per polling station in the US? Perhaps there is a big variation, so a range might be informative.
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There's no set limit. States have different rules and often it can be up to the individual locality. In Philadelphia, we are broken into 66 wards, each ward is broken up into between 10 and 50 divisions. Each division has its own polling "place". One physical polling location can host more than one division, but will have separate machines for each division.

Philadelphia has roughly 1,000,000 registered voters. I did some back of the napkin calculations on some very conservative numbers and came to about 450 people per division (and of course not all of them will vote). But I think my numbers were way too conservative based on personal experience.

In other areas of the country there are thousands of people per location. It's, frankly, nuts. The idea that people have to stand in line for HOURS is just mind boggling.
 
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