Hillary Clinton is Done: part 4

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Yes this whole thing seems completely asinine. Hillary Clinton was "leaked" debate questions. And? Are these high school kids? And it's not like the questions were quiz show questions:

  • "Hillary for ten points, what was the name of the Japanese warrior who successfully fought off the Emperor's personal guard in 1024?"
  • "Okay, for twenty points, who said, "I have seen victory, yet so fleeting that I dareth speak of it?"

As I've said over and over, I can understand someone having concerns about Hillary Clinton. (Based on her having been my senator for nine years, if elected president I think they'll be in for a pleasant surprise.) What I cannot understand is someone having absolutely no concerns about Trump. With his record? As The Don himself would probably say, that's disgusting! ;)
 
varwoche said:
A Democrat who has never posted in support of a Democratic policy position. Cook County must be a weird place.
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I have never seen TBD praise a single Democratic politician, but I have seen TBD post negative crap about every single Democratic nominee or President going back to 1992, combined with sneering contempt for every Democratic Senator he mentions. Oddly enough, even though he claims to support Sanders, TBD never offered a positive word for him, either. I have seen him praise numerous Republican Congress people, though. Funny how that works.
 
varwoche said:
A Democrat who has never posted in support of a Democratic policy position. Cook County must be a weird place.
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I went on an Army road trip with a senior NCO, democrat, and young lieutenant who claimed to be "Wyoming democrat." They spent the entire trip from southern Wyoming to someplace way the heck northwest Montana arguing. It was like being locked in a small room with two people reenacting the entire internet. Whenever it slowed down I'd poke it, to keep the driver awake. :D

But I learned that a Wyoming Democrat would be considered a mouthbreathing troglodyte republitard in Colorado, or that a young second loowee is willing to claim to be a democrat for the sake of argument.

The Big Dog may or may not conform to your notions of a democrat. But then, I'm a registered republican at the moment, so what party people claim may differ from internal belief set.
 
newyorkguy said:
Yes this whole thing seems completely asinine. Hillary Clinton was "leaked" debate questions. And? Are these high school kids?
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If students were caught passing and receiving questions before a debate in my high school, they would be immediately and permanently removed the debate team and barred from participating in any future debates. They would definitely be facing in-school suspension, likely out-of-school suspension and possible expulsion.

To answer your question, no, high school students are held to a much, much higher standard than Hillary is held by her supporters.
 
The Big Dog said:
and.... therefore she was leaked the question to.... drumroll....

Prepare to Dodge it!!!

This is so basic, smfh.
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I don't know why you think anyone cares. I don't care if every single question was leaked to her. Nothing illegal was done, was it? The idea that Democrats would want an actual Democrat for president as opposed to a man who had never been a member of the party should hardly be a surprise. For 3 decades, Hillary had raised millions of dollars for Democrats. Did the Socialist? Bernie was Socialist before the primaries and became one immediately after. While a lot of voters embraced Bernie, the party itself didnt.

I like Bernie and I voted for him in the primary, but I'm not so naive that I thought he was the party's choice.
 
BobTheCoward said:
It isnt clear she got them. She could have guessed based on speaking to the town hall person directly. I am really curious. I think it is the most interesting part about this.

Wait. Go back to what I wrote. You said,"no it did not" and then proceeded to write almost exactly what we said. I think my interpretation was correct.
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Are we missing the obvious here? Clearly the answer is Donna Brazile is psychic.
 
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A high school debating team and two political leaders running for president of the United States is not exactly the same thing. In fact it's not even really a debate. The format is more question-and-answer. More like a job interview than two high school debating teams going at it.

No, I have no problem with Clinton -- or any other candidate -- getting the questions in advance. I don't want to hear them answer public policy questions -- about banning lead-lined water pipes for instance -- with spur-of-the-moment off-the-top-of-their-head answers. Because that's not the way they'll run their administration. I'm fine with them having a chance to reflect on the problem, maybe consult some sources and be ready with a qualified answer.
 
newyorkguy said:
A high school debating team and two political leaders running for president of the United States is not exactly the same thing. In fact it's not even really a debate. The format is more question-and-answer. More like a job interview than two high school debating teams going at it.

No, I have no problem with Clinton -- or any other candidate -- getting the questions in advance. I don't want to hear them answer public policy questions -- about banning lead-lined water pipes for instance -- with spur-of-the-moment off-the-top-of-their-head answers. Because that's not the way they'll run their administration. I'm fine with them having a chance to reflect on the problem, maybe consult some sources and be ready with a qualified answer.
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Bla. The question here seems to be if you are ok with one participant getting the questions in advance while the other doesn't.
 
Would Hillary supporters be okay with Trump receiving questions in advance? It wouldn't concern me. Of course it should probably be pointed out that this issue came up via WikiLeaks and Julian Assange is only targeting one of the candidates, Trump gets a free ride. Do any of the Hillary-haters or Trumpers ever wonder why that is?

Is it politics or is it more primal, gender-based? Assange seems to have a visceral hatred of Hillary Clinton. Assange is also an accused rapist. Criminologists say that rapists are often driven by their deep-seated hatred of women. That rape is usually not a sexual act but an act of violence. Is that why Assange seems to be going out of his way to target Hillary Clinton in a way he has never gone after anyone else? Not Trump, not Putin, not even Obama.

I'm sure it's possible. People closest to Assange seem to agree he is not a normal man.
 
newyorkguy said:
Would Hillary supporters be okay with Trump receiving questions in advance? It wouldn't concern me. Of course it should probably be pointed out that this issue came up via WikiLeaks and Julian Assange is only targeting one of the candidates, Trump gets a free ride. Do any of the Hillary-haters or Trumpers ever wonder why that is?

Is it politics or is it more primal, gender-based? Assange seems to have a visceral hatred of Hillary Clinton. Assange is also an accused rapist. Criminologists say that rapists are often driven by their deep-seated hatred of women. That rape is usually not a sexual act but an act of violence. Is that why Assange seems to be going out of his way to target Hillary Clinton in a way he has never gone after anyone else? Not Trump, not Putin, not even Obama.

I'm sure it's possible. People closest to Assange seem to agree he is not a normal man.
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You serious? It came up because the dnc openly favored Clinton over sanders nothing to do with trump, and the evidence of the was leaked because Podesta is grossly incompetent.

Your sexism/rape argument is beyond ridiculous. Sad.
 
Childlike Empress said:
Bla. The question here seems to be if you are ok with one participant getting the questions in advance while the other doesn't.
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Given that the email discussing this is obviously snipped out of a larger chain that wikileaks held back, and wikileaks isn't giving us Sanders emails, how do we know one participant did not know a question would be asked about water quality in Flint freaking Michigan? In fact, are you guys actually claiming that Sanders is so bad at prep work that he didn't expect a water question in Flint lead-in-the-water Michigan? And this is supposed to make Clinton look bad?
 
Childlike Empress said:
Bla. The question here seems to be if you are ok with one participant getting the questions in advance while the other doesn't.
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I don't buy for 1 second that you care about this. You're only interested

I agree, it wasn't fair to Bernie, but maybe he should have been a Democrat and had allies who could help him. CNN or Donna Brazille was the one that made a mistake nit Hillary. She just accepted the advantage that was offered to her.

Out of curiosity, does it bother you that Trump took almost a billion dollar tax write off for losses his creditors suffered? That's right, most of the 900 million dollar write off that he took on his personal income taxes weren't his own personal losses. It was highly questionable and definitely unethical.

When it does, you might have some credibility questioning Hillary's ethics.
 
The Big Dog said:
You serious? It came up because the dnc openly favored Clinton over sanders nothing to do with trump, and the evidence of the was leaked because Podesta is grossly incompetent.

Your sexism/rape argument is beyond ridiculous. Sad.
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Oh, noes, the Democratic National Committee openly favored the only Democrat in the race? Say it ain't so!
 
wareyin said:
Given that the email discussing this is obviously snipped out of a larger chain that wikileaks held back, and wikileaks isn't giving us Sanders emails, how do we know one participant did not know a question would be asked about water quality in Flint freaking Michigan? In fact, are you guys actually claiming that Sanders is so bad at prep work that he didn't expect a water question in Flint lead-in-the-water Michigan? And this is supposed to make Clinton look bad?
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Obviously? Really? Well you obviously have some proof that the DNC leaked Sanders the email right.

Obviously you will post the evidence that it was obviously snipped out of a larger chain.

obviously.
 
Given the actual debate questions are pretty predictable and these guys answer almost everything with memorized stump speeches, Brazile's leaks are way down on the bottom of the 'I don't give a rip' scale.
 
The Big Dog said:
..It came up because the dnc openly favored Clinton over sanders nothing to do with trump...
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WikiLeaks put it out because the DNC favored Clinton over Sanders? The RNC actively opposed Donald Trump over all the other Republican candidates, how come WikiLeaks doesn't go after them?
 
The Big Dog said:
Obviously? Really? Well you obviously have some proof that the DNC leaked Sanders the email right.

Obviously you will post the evidence that it was obviously snipped out of a larger chain.

obviously.
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Your reading comprehension problems are tripping you up again. Nobody claimed that the DNC "leaked" the obvious question to Sanders, but if you think Sanders is so bad at this that he has to be told to expect a water question in the city embroiled in a contaminated water scandal, then that makes Sanders an incompetent twit. Is that really the point you're trying to make, that Sanders failed to secure the nomination because he was clueless?

If so, please proceed, Governor!
 
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