Hillary Clinton is Done: part 4

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The Big Dog said:
WRONG because the legally seized lap top is not a poisonous tree, therefore the whole claim that the emails are the fruits is utterly false.
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So you assert, but I have no reason to accept your speculation over mine.

They were looking for evidence against Weiner. That's all they were looking for. I'd say that even opening one email that did not include Weiner as a sender or recipient potentially crosses the line into illegal search and seizure.

Comey pretty much hangs himself here; he can't flatly state they are pertinent then pretend he hasn't even peeked.

IANAL but I've impersonated one.
 
Slings and Arrows said:
Okay, if her emails ended up on a sexual perverts laptop, then it's Hillary's fault for not using a government approved secure server when corresponding with the President of the United States.

Does that sound any better?
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Really???

Hillary sent some of her emails Cc: to Huma. That's what this is all about isn't it? And thus far, we don't even know if those emails were about, say, lifting sanctions on Iran, or about apple pie recipes.
 
Minoosh said:
ETA: I've used up all my free samples of the Washington Post.
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Open the link in a "private window" (Firefox). That works for me to fool their count of page views.

ETA: From the WaPo article BigDog linked to:
One official said the total number of emails recovered in the Weiner investigation is close to 650,000 — though that reflects many emails that are not in any way relevant to the Clinton investigation. Officials familiar with the case said, though, that the messages include a significant amount of correspondence associated with Clinton and her top aide Huma Abedin, Weiner’s estranged wife.
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IOW, that number is pretty worthless at this time. They've recovered 650,000 emails in the Weiner investigation. Many of those do not have bearing on Clinton. For the rest, there were only 33,000 emails missing from Clinton's private email server. That's what percentage? Expect of those of Weiner's emails (rather, Huma's) which do have bearing in Clinton to be the same percentage from those missing emails. The rest is already known.
 
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It is illegal for a private citizen, such as Trump, to urge a foreign government or agents of that government to illegally hack into American servers and email accounts. It is illegal for a private citizen such as Trump, to urge or encourage agents of a foreign govt. to try to influence an American election.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logan_Act#Text

§ 953. Private correspondence with foreign governments.

Any citizen of the United States, wherever he may be, who, without authority of the United States, directly or indirectly commences or carries on any correspondence or intercourse with any foreign government or any officer or agent thereof, with intent to influence the measures or conduct of any foreign government or of any officer or agent thereof, in relation to any disputes or controversies with the United States, or to defeat the measures of the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both.
 
Minoosh said:
So you assert, but I have no reason to accept your speculation over mine.

They were looking for evidence against Weiner. That's all they were looking for. I'd say that even opening one email that did not include Weiner as a sender or recipient potentially crosses the line into illegal search and seizure.

Comey pretty much hangs himself here; he can't flatly state they are pertinent then pretend he hasn't even peeked.

IANAL but I've impersonated one.
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Yes, well you have no idea what you are talking about, and your explanation is not fruit of the poisonous tree so please stop posting terribly uninformed claims.
 
The Big Dog said:
Uh, not all of them are Hillary's but yeah, let's just blow off classification rules because Hillary is a scumbag. :rolleyes:
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Not because Hillary is a scumbag.

Because keeping them under wraps at this point may present a threat to national security in itself. Some few people have promised armed insurrection should Hillary win. It's vital not to fan those flames with rampant innuendo.
 
Minoosh said:
Not because Hillary is a scumbag.

Because keeping them under wraps at this point may present a threat to national security in itself. Some few people have promised armed insurrection should Hillary win. It's vital not to fan those flames with rampant innuendo.
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:eye-poppi

Wow.
 
The Big Dog said:
Yes, well you have no idea what you are talking about, and your explanation is not fruit of the poisonous tree so please stop posting terribly uninformed claims.
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Wouldn't it make more sense for you to just quote the relevant sources and make an argument rather than just blindly state that you're right? I mean, since you're obviously right and not playing a character or anything.
 
The Big Dog said:
Does he cut off expert analysis like you just did to make a silly joke?
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Aw, come on. You can't say that you were hurt by such a small bit of humour. Certainly I wasn't implying at all that you are adding a bit of Trump to your comedy routine.

And this:

The Big Dog said:
WRONG because the legally seized lap top is not a poisonous tree, therefore the whole claim that the emails are the fruits is utterly false.

So silly.
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Isn't an "expert analysis". It's your opinion unless you can support it.
 
Any citizen of the United States,...directly or indirectly commences or carries on any correspondence or intercourse with any foreign government or any officer or agent thereof, with intent to influence...any disputes or controversies with the United States...shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both.
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Three years sounds about right. ;)
 
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