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Trump runs for POTUS/ Trumped Up! Part VII

cantonear1968 said:
I don't think there's much fence sitting on the emails. People have pretty much made their minds up on it. Depending on the coverage, without more meat on the bone it won't be much of a story for long. A tick or 2? Maybe. Not much movement though.

And that's how I would handle things. Trump is already calling the FBI honorable, compared to 2 weeks ago he was saying they corrupt. I'd beat him over the head with this to deflect away. Show it as his say-anything-no-matter-the-truth policy he adopts. Beyond that, keep the story where it is; they're "looking". Big deal!
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The problem is appreciating the mentality of the undecided / borderline undecided voter. A person has to be not paying much attention and/or pathologically indecisive to be in this group at this point in the campaign. I guess it is possible to come to a reasoned impasse, but that is beyond my ability to comprehend.

Those are the people that are going to be mildly pushed by hearing the headline implying that Clinton is again under investigation by the FBI.

Pointing out Trump's flip on the FBI wouldn't be effective. He does that so often that it is noise. The ad I want to see, that would be effective in my area (which includes some of eastern Ohio and western PA) would be a 30 second spot simply looping his "Wages are too high" statement from the GOP debate. Over and over.

Maybe add some text about his poor labor practices or whatever, but really the loop is all that is necessary...
 
Let's not forget that the news media loves to try to make things exciting in the last days of the race.

Notice how quick they were to use terms like "Bombshell" before any details emerged.
 
Suddenly said:
The problem is appreciating the mentality of the undecided / borderline undecided voter. A person has to be not paying much attention and/or pathologically indecisive to be in this group at this point in the campaign. I guess it is possible to come to a reasoned impasse, but that is beyond my ability to comprehend.

Those are the people that are going to be mildly pushed by hearing the headline implying that Clinton is again under investigation by the FBI.

Pointing out Trump's flip on the FBI wouldn't be effective. He does that so often that it is noise. The ad I want to see, that would be effective in my area (which includes some of eastern Ohio and western PA) would be a 30 second spot simply looping his "Wages are too high" statement from the GOP debate. Over and over.

Maybe add some text about his poor labor practices or whatever, but really the loop is all that is necessary...
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Your assuming those people still exist. Most people that are undecided at this stage are more likely NOT to vote than vote.
 
Suddenly said:
The problem is appreciating the mentality of the undecided / borderline undecided voter. A person has to be not paying much attention and/or pathologically indecisive to be in this group at this point in the campaign. I guess it is possible to come to a reasoned impasse, but that is beyond my ability to comprehend.

Those are the people that are going to be mildly pushed by hearing the headline implying that Clinton is again under investigation by the FBI.

Pointing out Trump's flip on the FBI wouldn't be effective. He does that so often that it is noise. The ad I want to see, that would be effective in my area (which includes some of eastern Ohio and western PA) would be a 30 second spot simply looping his "Wages are too high" statement from the GOP debate. Over and over.

Maybe add some text about his poor labor practices or whatever, but really the loop is all that is necessary...
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Maybe. If you held the election an hour ago. But I think this is just as likely a game changer for people as it is email fatigue and tired of it. And I think more evidence of Trump's say-anything-in-the-moment inconsistency. He was quoted as saying "Maybe the system isn't as rigged as much as I thought". When it's going his way it's good and when it isn't it's rigged. This isn't lost on people.

Then there's the whole "Grab them by the pussy!"
;)

Time will tell but so far I don't see any meat on this bone and won't effect the election.
 
cantonear1968 said:
Maybe. If you held the election an hour ago. But I think this is just as likely a game changer for people as it is email fatigue and tired of it. And I think more evidence of Trump's say-anything-in-the-moment inconsistency. He was quoted as saying "Maybe the system isn't as rigged as much as I thought". When it's going his way it's good and when it isn't it's rigged. This isn't lost on people.

Then there's the whole "Grab them by the pussy!"
;)

Time will tell but so far I don't see any meat on this bone and won't effect the election.
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The emails in question have NOTHING to do with HRC. They have do with her aide Huma's husband Anthony Weiner and him texting an under age girl.
 
acbytesla said:
The emails in question have NOTHING to do with HRC. They have do with her aide Huma's husband Anthony Weiner and him texting an under age girl.
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I think you're mistaken.

The laptop was also used by Weiner's wife, Huma, and evidently she has some emails on that laptop. Those emails apparently include email to or from Hillary's server, since otherwise, the FBI would not have said that these emails have some connection to the HRC investigation.

It may be nothing. It may be more evidence of sloppy treatment of classified information. I don't think we'll know until long after the election.
 
Argumemnon said:
What high road? It's a fact that Trump said what he said. He keeps talking about Ivanka in ways that are totally inappropriate for a father, and he's bragged about sexually abusing women, some of which have come forward. It's not a huge stretch to imagine that the possibility is there. It wouldn't be surprising.

Is it how Tony will "defeat" Trump? It wasn't meant that way. It's just his informed speculation.
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That word has to go. Tony keeps says Trump ****** his daughter but even if he wanted to, I doubt she would go along. So if Tony wants to be consistent, he should be arguing that Trump raped his daughter. It has the added benefit of not wearing out the autocensor.
 
phiwum said:
I think you're mistaken.

The laptop was also used by Weiner's wife, Huma, and evidently she has some emails on that laptop. Those emails apparently include email to or from Hillary's server, since otherwise, the FBI would not have said that these emails have some connection to the HRC investigation.

It may be nothing. It may be more evidence of sloppy treatment of classified information. I don't think we'll know until long after the election.
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That isn't my understanding.
Comey's former colleagues said his public appearances last summer may have left the director feeling he had no choice but to let the public know when new information relevant to the case arose—in this instance, according to a U.S. official, emails obtained during an investigation into allegations that former Rep. Anthony Weiner (D-N.Y.) exchanged sexually explicit messages with an underage girl.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2016/...y-disclosure-prosecutors-230467#ixzz4OQhk7YoP
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Any way you look at itl it is the same old, same old. Far too much of this investigation has been public when in fact, none of it should have been. It just invites innuendo and potentially adversely effects a national election.
"I got a lot of respect for Jim Comey, but I don't understand this idea of dropping this bombshell which could be a big dud," said former federal prosector Peter Zeidenberg, a veteran of politically sensitive investigations. "Doing it in the last week or ten days of a presidential election without more information, I don't that he should because how does it inform a voter? It just invites speculation ... I would question the timing of it. It's not going to get done in a week."

Nick Akerman, a former assistant U.S. Attorney in the Southern District of New York, was more critical: "Director Comey acted totally inappropriately. He had no business writing to Congress about supposed new emails that neither he nor anyone in the FBI has ever reviewed.”
"It is not the function of the FBI Director to be making public pronouncements about an investigation, never mind about an investigation based on evidence that he acknowledges may not be significant," Akerman added. "The job of the FBI is simply to investigate and to provide the results of its investigation to the prosecutorial arm of the US Department of Justice. His job is not to give a running commentary about any investigation or his opinion about any investigation. This is particularly egregious since Secretary Clinton has no way to respond to what amounts to nebulous and speculative innuendo.”

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Fast Eddie B said:
My choice has been abstain or Hillary.

This pushes me towards "abstain".

Cannot say how many like me there are.
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Because the FBI found some emails on a computer used by Huma Abedin that may not even be classified and were reportedly not sent by Hillary?

OK.
 
Tony Stark said:
I don't really care that you disagree. That's fine. But what I find really odd is that you keep on responding. Even after you said you wouldn't. If you people just ignored me, it would have just been me making a couple of remarks. But here we are still talking about it.
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That's the second time you've tried the "but you made me do it" excuse. All I can say is that that is just a very, very pathetic excuse. Me saying more would earn me the banhammer.
 
SezMe said:
That's the second time you've tried the "but you made me do it" excuse. All I can say is that that is just a very, very pathetic excuse. Me saying more would earn me the banhammer.
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What is pathetic is your strawman. I didn't say that he made me do it. But rather that continuing to respond kept a discussion that he had a problem with alive. Simply a fact.
 
Tony Stark said:
Because the FBI found some emails on a computer used by Huma Abedin that may not even be classified and were reportedly not sent by Hillary?

OK.
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But we learned that when Hillary sent emails, the people receiving them got a copy as well! The emails didn't just go into a folder on Hillary's private server. :jaw-dropp
 
sackett said:
Slick? Wonder who hung that old southern tag on him? In the woolhat culture down there, it has admiring connotations. He never earned it.
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I was unaware of the southern connotation of "Slick". For me - Californian born and bred - when I use the term I am referring to him as a politician. He has to be in the top 5 best modern day politicians. He's not quite the orator Obama is but, nonetheless, he's quite ... hmm .... slick. :)
 
Tony Stark said:
Because the FBI found some emails on a computer used by Huma Abedin that may not even be classified and were reportedly not sent by Hillary?

OK.
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My impression was that the emails on the device were deemed by the FBI to be relevant enough to reopen the investigation. Relevant to Hillary's alleged mishandling of classified information. That impression was from mainstream media coverage heard on the radio today while driving.

If that turns out to be incorrect, I'll reconsider.
 
Fast Eddie B said:
My impression was that the emails on the device were deemed by the FBI to be relevant enough to reopen the investigation. Relevant to Hillary's alleged mishandling of classified information. That impression was from mainstream media coverage heard on the radio today while driving.

If that turns out to be incorrect, I'll reconsider.
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That is incorrect.
 
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