Trump runs for POTUS/ Trumped Up! Part VII

phiwum said:
You are a man of rare (and inscrutable) principle.

All the more bizarre if I remind you that the current discussion began with this question.



I answered, and you start throwing a tantrum of repeating your silly fantasy until I stop responding?

Yes, a man of inscrutable principles.
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Oh so you wish to keep the discussion alive. Your response was total nonsense given the fact that Donald is is sexual predator who is attracted to his daughter.

Donald Trump may have ********** his daughter.

I do not care that you object to me saying that.
 
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phiwum said:
It is not well-informed speculation. We don't know much about Trump's relationship with his daughter, aside (of course) from his very creepy comments.

There's no reason at all to keep going on about a mere possibility. It's just salacious wishful thinking. It has not place on a skeptics' forum.
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We know that he is a sexual predator who is clearly attracted to his daughter. And so he may have banged her.

Go ahead and keep the discussion alive.
 
phiwum said:
There's no reason at all to keep going on about a mere possibility. It's just salacious wishful thinking. It has not place on a skeptics' forum.
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Partisan politics has no place on a skeptic`s forum, yet we tolerate it anyway.
 
Tony Stark said:
Oh so you wish to keep the discussion alive. Your response was total nonsense given the fact that Donald is is sexual predator who is attacted to his daughter.

Donald Trump may having ********** his daughter.

I do not care that you object to me saying that.
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No, Tony, I'll concede that you'll keep repeating this purile nonsense until a moderator forces us to cut it out. You win, I'll drop it.

But if you ask why people think it's bad for you to say this, you shouldn't throw a tantrum when you get an honest reply.

Anyway, you win. A fine show of sophisticated debate! I have been bested by your superior argument! At least on the sixth repetition, if not the first, but still, a fine show!
 
Molinaro said:
Partisan politics has no place on a skeptic`s forum, yet we tolerate it anyway.
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I think that reasonable persons can discuss partisan politics. Columnists like David Brooks, for instance, do a good job of exactly that, though we can't expect typical forum contributors to do as well.

Anyway, I don't consider myself partisan. I have few political loyalties in the long run.

Surely, however, we can agree that discussing politics, even badly, is not as dishonorable as publicly speculating on incestuous relationships as if they were relevant to this election.
 
phiwum said:
No, Tony, I'll concede that you'll keep repeating this purile nonsense until a moderator forces us to cut it out. You win, I'll drop it.

But if you ask why people think it's bad for you to say this, you shouldn't throw a tantrum when you get an honest reply.

Anyway, you win. A fine show of sophisticated debate! I have been bested by your superior argument! At least on the sixth repetition, if not the first, but still, a fine show!
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Yet you feel the need to reply yet again.

Donald Trump is a sexual predator who is attracted to his daughter and so it is not unreasonable to believe he may have ********** her.
 
phiwum said:
Surely, however, we can agree that discussing politics, even badly, is not as dishonorable as publicly speculating on incestuous relationships as if they were relevant to this election.
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Much like when a witness brings up a topic on the stand and the prosecution is then free to press it -- when the politician brings it up on their own... and he did... it`s fair game.

If it is not a topic you want to discuss then don`t.
 
Tony Stark said:
Donald Trump is a sexual predator who is attracted to his daughter and so it is not unreasonable to believe he may have ********** her.
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I'm a skeptic, so it is unreasonable for me to believe it. It's perfectly fine for others to believe it though. I expect some people can manage it.
 
Tony Stark said:
Yet you feel the need to reply yet again.

Donald Trump is a sexual predator who is attracted to his daughter and so it is not unreasonable to believe he may have ********** her.
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If any credible evidence does appear, it's gonna be an interesting day in this thread.
 
marplots said:
I'm a skeptic, so it is unreasonable for me to believe it. It's perfectly fine for others to believe it though. I expect some people can manage it.
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Yes the skeptical thing is to just ignore the fact that he is a sexual predator, that he talks about how hot his daughter is, how they would be dating if she wasn't his daughter, that he said the thing they have most in common is sex, telling Howard Stern it is ok to call her a piece of ass, ect.
 
Tony Stark said:
Yes the skeptical thing is to just ignore the fact that he is a sexual predator, that he talks about how hot his daughter is, how they would be dating if she wasn't his daughter, that he said the thing they have most in common is sex, telling Howard Stern it is ok to call her a piece of ass, ect.
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I seem to have missed something. The step that goes from your laundry list of allegations to something about *********** his daughter. It's probably because I don't actually know what the asterisks stand for in your earlier post.

I'm more used to connect-the-dots arguments in conspiracy theory threads. I wonder what it would take to falsify this idea of yours? Can't think of anything at all...
 
marplots said:
I seem to have missed something. The step that goes from your laundry list of allegations to something about *********** his daughter. It's probably because I don't actually know what the asterisks stand for in your earlier post.

I'm more used to connect-the-dots arguments in conspiracy theory threads. I wonder what it would take to falsify this idea of yours? Can't think of anything at all...
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I didn't even say that he did it. He probably didn't. But it is not unreasonable to believe that a sexual predator who is attracted to his daughter may have boned her.
 
Tony Stark said:
I didn't even say that he did it. He probably didn't. But it is not unreasonable to believe that a sexual predator who is attracted to his daughter may have boned her.
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The part I highlighted is the part that makes it unreasonable for a skeptic though.

Rereading it, maybe I'm being too picky with loose language.
Polling has Hillary at 80% to win and Trump at only 20% (might not be the latest numbers). So, Hillary will probably win. However, it is possible that Trump will win, so if I say, "I believe Trump may win" am I saying I think he has a better chance than Hillary, or am I just saying it's possible?

If the latter, then we can say that bit about sex with the daughter about anyone at all - given they have a daughter and are capable of sex - since no matter how highly we think of them, it's still "possible."

Anyhow, my position is pretty weak. The best I can manage is, "I don't think the evidence is very strong." How's that?
 
marplots said:
The part I highlighted is the part that makes it unreasonable for a skeptic though.

Rereading it, maybe I'm being too picky with loose language.
Polling has Hillary at 80% to win and Trump at only 20% (might not be the latest numbers). So, Hillary will probably win. However, it is possible that Trump will win, so if I say, "I believe Trump may win" am I saying I think he has a better chance than Hillary, or am I just saying it's possible?

If the latter, then we can say that bit about sex with the daughter about anyone at all - given they have a daughter and are capable of sex - since no matter how highly we think of them, it's still "possible."

Anyhow, my position is pretty weak. The best I can manage is, "I don't think the evidence is very strong." How's that?
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Most people aren't sexual predators who are attracted to their daughters.
 
Tony Stark said:
Yet you feel the need to reply yet again.

Donald Trump is a sexual predator who is attracted to his daughter and so it is not unreasonable to believe he may have ********** her.
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I agree that the evidence supports the claim that he is a sexual predator.

I have not followed all the accusations against Trump. How many of the the women accuse him of banging them without consent? If the number is zero, then his history as a sexual predator does not support the assertion that he may have raped his daughter. To be clear, I consider his felonious acts very serious and I want him to feel the full weight of the legal system. But if he has not committed non-consensual intercourse with his other victims, then there really isn't much to support the speculation that he committed non-consensual intercourse with his daughter.

As for the discussion, I can clearly state what evidence would lead me to come over to your position. Can you clearly state what evidence would move you away from your position?
 
Ladewig said:
I agree that the evidence supports the claim that he is a sexual predator.

I have not followed all the accusations against Trump. How many of the the women accuse him of banging them without consent? If the number is zero, then his history as a sexual predator does not support the assertion that he may have raped his daughter. To be clear, I consider his felonious acts very serious and I want him to feel the full weight of the legal system. But if he has not committed non-consensual intercourse with his other victims, then there really isn't much to support the speculation that he committed non-consensual intercourse with his daughter.

As for the discussion, I can clearly state what evidence would lead me to come over to your position. Can you clearly state what evidence would move you away from your position?
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His wife Ivana accused him of rape. So did a then 13 year old girl that is suing him.

Given that Donald is a sexual predator who is attracted to his daughter, there is nothing that would get me to think he definitely didn't bone her. But I don't think he definitely did it either. It isn't like I would convict him on a charge of incest.
 
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I really don't understand why people keep on responding to me if they don't think it is appropriate to talk about how Donald is a sexual predator who may have banged his daughter. It would have died out a long time ago.
 
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