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Trump's Little Stormtroopers....

dudalb said:
So the party of Lincoln has come to this....
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Lol

Another bs article from the left holding onto their playbook of racism. I wonder if there are just as many racist blacks, latinos, jews and Europeans? If Trump says we have to close our borders because its out of control and a bunch of racists agree with it, somehow the party of Lincoln is now racist. That is some contorted thought that is rife with typical liberal EMOTIONALISM.

Trump will carry the largest % of black votes since the sixties, why, because they don't like hillary.
 
logger said:
Lol

Another bs article from the left holding onto their playbook of racism. I wonder if there are just as many racist blacks, latinos, jews and Europeans? If Trump says we have to close our borders because its out of control and a bunch of racists agree with it, somehow the party of Lincoln is now racist. That is some contorted thought that is rife with typical liberal EMOTIONALISM.

Trump will carry the largest % of black votes since the sixties, why, because they don't like hillary.
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'logger' may actually be right about something.

I expect that Trump will get about the same percentage of the black vote that Barry Goldwater did back in 1964.

As far as I can tell, Goldwater hardly got any of the black vote since Johnson got the Civil Rights Act passed in 1964; and considering the numerous racists that have been supporting Trump since he declared, then I do not expect too many African Americans to be voting for Trump.
 
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logger said:
Lol

Another bs article from the left holding onto their playbook of racism. I wonder if there are just as many racist blacks, latinos, jews and Europeans? If Trump says we have to close our borders because its out of control and a bunch of racists agree with it, somehow the party of Lincoln is now racist. That is some contorted thought that is rife with typical liberal EMOTIONALISM.

Trump will carry the largest % of black votes since the sixties, why, because they don't like hillary.
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:rolleyes:

Bookmarked for revisiting on the 9th.
 
ponderingturtle said:
And so what? White nationalists support trump and view him as a nazi because they view that as a good thing. That is a basic fact so why should more ties between the trump group and white nationalists be surprising? Trump has repeatedly refused to distance himself from them.
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The point is that the White Nationalist community didn't support Trump at first. His rhetoric, culminating in "global special interests", has had the effect of recruiting them to his cause, wittingly or not.

I doubt it's wittingly in Trump's case, but may be (and almost certainly is, in my opinion) witting in those around him who feed him his sound-bites.
 
CapelDodger said:
The point is that the White Nationalist community didn't support Trump at first. His rhetoric, culminating in "global special interests", has had the effect of recruiting them to his cause, wittingly or not.

I doubt it's wittingly in Trump's case, but may be (and almost certainly is, in my opinion) witting in those around him who feed him his sound-bites.
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Steve Bannon, he campaign strategists, is an important figure in "alt.right".

No doubt, that if Trump were elected, he would have a problem with alt.reich, in a sort of Hitler/Rohm situation.
 
CapelDodger said:
The point is that the White Nationalist community didn't support Trump at first. His rhetoric, culminating in "global special interests", has had the effect of recruiting them to his cause, wittingly or not.

I doubt it's wittingly in Trump's case, but may be (and almost certainly is, in my opinion) witting in those around him who feed him his sound-bites.
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I think it was more a realization that the Orange Menace and white supremacists beliefs aligned. The campaign has aggressively courted them with the effort headed by Donnie Jr.
 
acbytesla said:
2 days ago Trump supporters started yelling "lugenpresse" at the media. That is NAZI language yelled at the press during Hitler rallies. It means "lying press". History is repeating itself.
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Not quite right.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lying_press
The term "Lügenpresse" predates the Nazi rule by several generations, and it has been used by conservatives, leftists, nationalists and anarchists alike at different times in different places.

Mumbles said:
I'd assume anyone who uses it. IIRC, it's a term that's not used in Germany anymore, and given the number of Trump fans online that are fond of pictures of Pepe shoving jewish people into gas chambers and the like...

(IOW, its already far worse than that among the white nationalists)
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Your recollection would be mistaken. It has become highly popular among populist and nationalistic protesters in recent years, complete with threats against journalists, so much so that "Lügenpresse" was named the "Un-word of the year" in 2014.
 
Oystein said:
Not quite right.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lying_press
The term "Lügenpresse" predates the Nazi rule by several generations, and it has been used by conservatives, leftists, nationalists and anarchists alike at different times in different places.


Your recollection would be mistaken. It has become highly popular among populist and nationalistic protesters in recent years, complete with threats against journalists, so much so that "Lügenpresse" was named the "Un-word of the year" in 2014.
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As I understand it then, it's a term used by far-right anti-immigration activists in Germany.

Interesting to hear it at a Trump rally.
 
uke2se said:
As I understand it then, it's a term used by far-right anti-immigration activists in Germany.

Interesting to hear it at a Trump rally.
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Yes, that is a large issue among those using it. The xenophobic "Pegida" movement ("Patriotic Europeans against the islamisation of the occident") made it popular, the right-populist, anti-European party AfD ("Alternative for Germany") uses it with much consciousness.
 
Oystein said:
Not quite right.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lying_press
The term "Lügenpresse" predates the Nazi rule by several generations, and it has been used by conservatives, leftists, nationalists and anarchists alike at different times in different places.


Your recollection would be mistaken. It has become highly popular among populist and nationalistic protesters in recent years, complete with threats against journalists, so much so that "Lügenpresse" was named the "Un-word of the year" in 2014.
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Not my recollection, but my information. Thanks for the new information.
 
CapelDodger said:
The obvious question is why you think you have a clue as to what "they" feel about Hillary Clinton.
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Because unlike you I'm a citizen of this great country. ;)

And I hear many who just don't like her, but it would be common sense that she isn't going to get as many votes as the first black president.
 
logger said:
Because unlike you I'm a citizen of this great country. ;)

And I hear many who just don't like her, but it would be common sense that she isn't going to get as many votes as the first black president.
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Backtracking now?

Pathetic.

Trump will be damn lucky to get 2% of the black vote, never mind most of it.
 
logger said:
Anyone have any proof of this "un-word" actually being yelled at a rally?
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Yes. The source seems to be BuzzFeed's Rosie Gray:
https://www.buzzfeed.com/rosiegray/...-for-reporters?utm_term=.tg3og7ARK#.iad7wAK40
There is a video in that article. Short transcript of two men talking, one of them holding a "Make America great again" sign:

Maga-man: "Okay. That's what you are." (Pointing at journalists, apparently)
Other man: "How do you say that?"
Maga man: "Lügenpresse!"
Other man: "Lügenpresse!"
Maga man: "You say it right."
Other man: "I know. ... You're all in bed with the Clintons. You're all bought and payed for..."
 
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