2016 Presidential Debate III

CapelDodger said:
That's easy for you to say. We Brits will lose our distraction from the rolling "Brexit" fiasco. :rolleyes:
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Better for you to think about that then us to have to worry about a Trump Presidency. Jeez, I shivered just thinking about that for a second. It's like whistling as you pass a grave yard.
 
dudalb said:
He had a decent..not great but decent first 50 minutes, then melted down in the last 40 Minutes.
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I notice that his "She doesn't have the stamina" ad didn't run for long around here. Most ads, I've seen several times a week for the last few weeks; that one, I've seen once, and then it apparently got "pulled".

Foolmewunz said:
As you would expect of a qualified Reality Show host.
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He should've won an Emmy.

marplots said:
Yep. I also expect he'll tweet something tomorrow that "explains" his comment. This is just par for the course. Say something outrageous; let the media/public react; redirect with a tweet.

It's how he's been manipulating things so far, and we keep falling for it. Why change now?
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What do you mean about us falling for it?
 
Spindrift said:
Thanks to Trumps stellar performance in the debates Hillary could get over 50% of the total popular vote, extinguishing the "most of the country didn't vote for her" meme.

When you are behind you do need to do something drastic, but Trump just is doubling down on the same old crap that got him to where he is now. His core loves it but these debates were all about the remaining undecideds.

I think Donald is regretting this whole thing. His image is everything to him. It was always a bit of a caricature, but it has become a caricature of a caricature. He was always the butt of jokes, but those where how rich he is and about his hair. Now every incoherent thing he says is analyzed, picked apart and made fun of. For a narcissist such as Trump that's too much. On the plus side for him I think he will be able to go on well paid speaking tours haranguing that "nasty woman" to packed houses for the next four years to re-stroke his ego.

One last thing about Trump I want to throw in is his apparent total lack of a sense of humor and the ability to understand what is funny. When Trump was roasted by Comedy Central in the 90's, the writing staff helps the roastee with jokes. Apparently Donald edited a lot of the jokes. Crossing out the punchlines and just leaving the set up. If you can find it, it is one of the more painful roasts to watch.
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Before the second debate, Liverpoolmiss on badscience said something similar:

Subject: Indecision 2016

liverpoolmiss said:
I think Trump's current problem is that views of voters are becoming fixed. So he has to shake the table to loosen things up again.

But he also has to be boring and presidential, as that's what worked for him in September. By being more normal, he slowly crept up in the polls, helped along by some bad Clinton news and her illness.

Boring and presidential doesn't shake the table and won't get any attention. Voters watched the debate and have moved on from thinking about the election. The relatively disengaged voter won't notice the day-to-day political stuff, won't talk about it round the water cooler.

Everyone enjoys the reckless, entertaining Trump. He'll get the attention only if he does more mad stuff. And that damages his boring and presidential fake persona. He's trapped.

What's that term in chess, where every move you could make is a bad one and you'd rather not move? It's like that. He has to move to change the current position on the board, but any move that would change things would be a bad move.
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Just watched some of the debate with Mrs Don. Did Trump really say 'bigly' a couple of times ?
 
The Don said:
Just watched some of the debate with Mrs Don. Did Trump really say 'bigly' a couple of times ?
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"Trump: President Obama has moved millions of people out. Nobody knows about it. Nobody talks about it. But under Obama, millions of people have been moved out of this country. They've been deported. She doesn't want to say that, but that's what has happened and that’s what happened - big league. As far as moving these people out and moving, we either have a country or we don't. We're a country of laws. We either have a border or we don't. Now, you can come back in and you can become a citizen. But it’s very unfair. We have millions of people that did it the right way. They're on line. They're waiting. We're going to speed up the process bigly, because it’s very inefficient. But they're on line and they’re waiting to become citizens. Very unfair that somebody runs across the border, becomes a citizen. Under her plan you have open borders. You would have a disaster on trade and and you will have a disaster with your open borders. What she doesn’t say is that President Obama has deported millions and millions of people."
 
The Don said:
Just watched some of the debate with Mrs Don. Did Trump really say 'bigly' a couple of times ?
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Yeah, he said it.
But the big story today, and overshadowing everything, is Donald's rejection of one of the basic tenants of American Democracy :The peaceful acceptance of election results. That was the nail in his coffin.
He will get at least 40% of the vote;the GOP...and the Dems for that matter..could nominate Mickey Mouse and get that. But he is going down, bigtime in November.
 
BobTheCoward said:
That is the case that would work if you impersonated the dead person.
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That worked in the good old days...Chicago was notorious for "The Graveyard Vote"...but it all depeneded on the voter rolls not being "purged" of the deceased in time for the next election, and the coming of computers changed all that,with voter rolls being updated almost daily. It is not a viable tactic nowdays.
And that is the problem with the GOP obsession with voter fraud..they describe tactics that worked in the good old Tammany Hall and Daley Machine Days,but just plain do not work nowdays.
 
Looks like I was right in saying that the "I will not accept the results of the election" have massively overshadowed everything else in the debate, and are a death blow to what little chance Trump had of winning. And it was self inflicted. Hilary, although she won the debate,did not knock Trump out of the race. Donald did that to himself.
 
applecorped said:
Time well spent
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Thank you for sharing this keen insight. Could you elaborate? Who spent the time wisely? The candidates? Thread participants? When did it occur? How might readers discern time well spent from time that's poorly spent?

Please do tell if there are probing question I failed to ask, so that readers can fully grasp the time well spent concept.
 
dudalb said:
Looks like I was right in saying that the "I will not accept the results of the election" have massively overshadowed everything else in the debate, and are a death blow to what little chance Trump had of winning. And it was self inflicted. Hilary, although she won the debate,did not knock Trump out of the race. Donald did that to himself.
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It just shows his true dellusion and as you say it was self inflicted.

Unbelievable
 
He should have just said that he would accept it. It would have been a lie but he lies all the time.
 
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