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Slowvehicle said:
The law of my land was intentionally made independent form, and not subject to, the superstitions of 'gods'.
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Not gods, but the God who created all things—the God of Israel

As far as treating others the way you, personally, would like to be treated, would you, personally, like to be subject to ignorant, superstition-based bigotry based upon the pigmentation of your dermis? Yet, that is exactly how you suggest treating others...
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By telling people how they became what they are is truthful and not vindictive.


Again, your superstitions are not my law; nor are they "law" to anyone who does not choose to be in thrall to them.

Would you, personally, like to be subject to a "law" the validity of which you do not accept, and the superstitioous basis of which you can see through? Yet, that is exactly how you go about treating others...
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Not so, I inform people of the righteous requirements of a holy Creator, so as to avert their destiny. They are not superstitious.
I reject your 'god' and all its monstrous doings, so I have no interest in whether you, personally, "declare" me "righteous".
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That means that you support everything that Yahweh finds detestable!

And yet, you, personally, have lied, right here on this very forum. Does this mean you will stop pretending to be a "prophet", and admit you deserve censure under your own law?
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No I have not lied—it is you that attempts to make me out to be a liar, to no avail.
I do not distinguish between any peoples—all people are subject to the same judgement—to show where one comes from is not degrading them---it is their customs that degrade them.

Do you know what a prophet is?
 
Paul Bethke said:
This seems to be you regular response—the translations that I use are more than adequate to understand the complete revelation.
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The reason it is my regular response is because this is your regular error; you pretend to be able to depend upon the interpretations of translations for which you have shopped in order to be able to claim that your opinion is supported by your version du jour, even if (or especially if) the claim you are supporting (married men can be "virgins"; Paul didn't men it when he said "...some of you will be alive..."; people with dark skin are cursed form eating monkey meat; &ct) is not only unsupported by, but contrary to, the actual meaning of the actual words in your actual scriptures.

This is why interpretations of translations are "good enough" for your screed--your own opinion is more important than the actual words.

Paul Bethke said:
They are not my standards, but that of the Creator—the Decalogue cannot be misinterpreted, and all the moral requirements are based there in.
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Nonsense. You, personally, misinterpret "the Decalogue"; if "the Decalogue" could not be misinterpreted, there would be only one xian sect.

Paul Bethke said:
The problem with all the other denominations is that they are puke.( (CJB) Rev 3:16 So, because you are lukewarm, neither cold nor hot, I will vomit you out of my mouth! )
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This, according your interpretation of whatever translation you think you can twist into seeming to support your egregious sectual perversions. Other sects disagree with you, preferring to follow their scriptures. (Scriptures, BTW, which, according to you, cannot be misinterpreted...)

Paul Bethke said:
They are not my Scriptures, but those of the Creator, which Yeshua conveyed to the world to inform us of the requirements of righteousness.
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...then why do you so very often disagree with, and twist, the actual meanings of the actual words in the surviving texts of your scriptures? (Scriptures, BTW, which, according to you, cannot be misinterpreted...)

Paul Bethke said:
There is nothing wrong with the translation that I use—I use an English translation of the Hebrew text, nothing wrong with that.
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Actually, you version-shop among different translations (and commentaries) hoping to find an interpretation that can be twisted to support your own racism, misogyny, and rejection of scientific fact.

Paul Bethke said:
Why would I relish the opportunity to see you suffer because of your blasphemy—I would rather see you enjoy the joy of knowing the truth, and I hope that when this is revealed that you will not persist in your blasphemy.
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"Blasphemy" is an empty symbol. For any act to be "blasphemy", it would have to be demonstrated that there was an entity to "blaspheme" against.

Your own racist, misogynist screed would be considered dangerously incorrect and heretical by other xians...perhaps it is, in fact, you who need to be worried.

In the meantime, I will continue to point out when you are speaking untruths about the very scriptures upon which you pretend, by much egregious misinterpretation, to base your screed. Such acts make you, by your own words, unfit to be considered "righteous"...
 
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Paul Bethke said:
So the simple laws that we have do not protect people from those who disregard those laws—the Decalogue then is a simple illustration that the Creator has set forth—so if you have never lied, you are righteous—but on the other hand if you have lied, then you are a liar.
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...hoist by your own petard...

How ironic.
 
Paul Bethke said:
WHY AM I THE ONLY ONE—the reason is because I am THE ONLY ONE who understands the complete revelation!
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An immortal South African swordsman must confront the last of his immortal opponent, a murderously brutal atheist who lusts for the fabled "Prize" at ISF...

They even made a movie about Paul

http://m.imdb.com/title/tt0091203/

Oh wait, that's fiction too!!!!
 
Paul Bethke said:
It would be quite funny when you come to see how wrong you are—funny but very sad, as your stance will result in you being terrified as is stated-- Is 13:8 Terror will seize them, pain and anguish will grip them; they will writhe like a woman in labour. They will look aghast at each other, their faces aflame.
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You'll find it funny? Will the holy angels and the Lamb find this from Rev 10:14 a bit of a laugh too?
... he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb​
Doing that in the presence of a lamb is cruelty to animals, unless God breeds a strain of psycho lambs. Wouldn't surprise me.
 
halleyscomet said:
Again, which people will suffer more?

For what sins?

How does the redemption of a former racist increase that suffering?

This is one reason you have no followers "Paul." You fall part and morph into a broken record when asked for clarification.

Ohhh, that's a really good analogy for you. I'll have to figure out how to use it in the sort story I'm working on.



That worked a bit better than I thought it would, at least for a first draft of the scene.
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I reiterate my offer to proof your drafts...
 
Crossbow said:
Any number of things can make a person insane.

Since you insist that you are the only person who actually does understand your fairy book, then do you still insist that you are not crazy?
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That was said of the apostle Paul---Acts_26:24 At this point Festus interrupted Paul's defence. "You are out of your mind, Paul!" he shouted. "Your great learning is driving you insane."

To believe that the events recorded are true is not insanity,, when one contemplates the greatness of the Creator, and to further regard these events as repeatable is only logical.
 
Paul Bethke said:
So you do not have the power to resist his will.
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Clearly I do.

Remember, your god has to wait for the right human being to come along in order to carry out his will. That means I can do what I want until that happens. For reasons we've explained, you're clearly not that "right person" to be the mouthpiece of god, so I'm not especially concerned. Your god has been impotent for the past 2,000 years, if not longer.

It would be quite funny when you come to see how wrong you are—
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It's already funny to see how wrong you are. What makes it funny is your peculiar, evasive behavior when caught in an error. Almost as if there is nothing at all divine about your mission, but rather that you're just playing to the audience. That sort of showboating has never been a problem for religion, right?

We are most certainly living in the period when the Creator will reveal himself through his power...
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...said every Christian since the beginning of Christianity.
 
Paul Bethke said:
They are not lies--it is you who like others have conjured up this notion which is false.
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It's not a notion; it's a fact. This forum contains a written record of your dishonesty.

I do not need to lie, I am not afraid to tell the truth.
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Clearly you are. When you were caught in the error in the Mizvot thread, you disappeared for several months. Since that was an error of pure fact, not something you could spin your way out of by variant interpretations, it's not something from which you can easily recover. So you ran away, almost like you're just playing to an audience.
 
Paul Bethke said:
That was said of the apostle Paul---Acts_26:24 At this point Festus interrupted Paul's defence. "You are out of your mind, Paul!" he shouted. "Your great learning is driving you insane."

To believe that the events recorded are true is not insanity,, when one contemplates the greatness of the Creator, and to further regard these events as repeatable is only logical.
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The problem is that these events are ONLY recorded in your book of tall tales....

Thus when saying that they are true, when other far more trustworthy records deny them, continuing to claim they are inerrant IS insane....

and as for being repeatable, well they haven't been yet.....

Sadly yet ANOTHER lie....

Why do you lie paul, you yourself say your God hates liars, why do you want your own god to hate you?
 
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