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Trump runs for POTUS/ Trumped Up! Part VI

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Sideroxylon said:
I have always found your discussions of Republicans over the top but Trump is so ridiculously over the top you are now hitting the target.
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Again as an outsider you do seem to take your political allegiances a bit personally
 
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Just to be clear (I'm a bit fazed post-migraine) : the Trump campaign has explicitly embraced Gilberthorpe? He hasn't just inserted himself inappropriately into the story?
 
catsmate said:
The New York Post reported that Anthony Gilberthorpe contacted Mr Trump's campaign to counter the claim. In an interview with the paper he said: "I was there, I was in a position to know that what she said was wrong, wrong, wrong."
Mr Gilberthorpe made headlines in 2014 when he alleged that he had provided underage boys to British politicians for sex parties.
Link. [Warning: NY Post]
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So his star witness in his defense is a guy who claims to have pimped out underage boys? I assume that if his claims were true, he would be in some very serious trouble.
 
Puppycow said:
So his star witness in his defense is a guy who claims to have pimped out underage boys? I assume that if his claims were true, he would be in some very serious trouble.
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Yep. Though I don't think anyone with a working brain takes Gilberthorpe's narcissistic ravings seriously.
 
Puppycow said:
So his star witness in his defense is a guy who claims to have pimped out underage boys? I assume that if his claims were true, he would be in some very serious trouble.
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Just to make it clear, Gilberthorpe has a huge amount of previous form in unreliable claims. Back in the 80s he sued a couple of red top newspapers for libel. He was awarded £50000 because they had falsely reported he was being forced out of his council job for being gay. They appealed and won because they were able to prove their source for the published claims was Gilberthorpe himself.

Bizarrely he later announced his engagement to a US fashion designer and widely publicized the details. Turns out she had never heard of him.

He once offered his place as a discreet pad for a politician friend of his to meet a mistress. Turns out he had hidden cameras installed in the bedroom and sold the pictures to a tabloid.

He is a guy happy to betray his friends for money, make up ludicrous lies for money and make up ludicrous lies apparently purely for egotistical fantasy.

Even if he were telling the truth about the Trump incident (and I will happily bet money that he isn't,) Trump should never have produced him as a witness for the simple reason that everyone who knows who Gilberthorpe is will automatically assume he is lying. They will then conclude that Trump consciously recruited him because he is a notorious publicity hound and liar for money, specifically for the purpose of offering Gilberthorpe money to lie for Trump. That is certainly my conclusion. I will be amazed if Gilberthorpe was even on the plane.
 
Carnivore said:
Just to make it clear, Gilberthorpe has a huge amount of previous form in unreliable claims. Back in the 80s he sued a couple of red top newspapers for libel. He was awarded £50000 because they had falsely reported he was being forced out of his council job for being gay. They appealed and won because they were able to prove their source for the published claims was Gilberthorpe himself.

Bizarrely he later announced his engagement to a US fashion designer and widely publicized the details. Turns out she had never heard of him.

He once offered his place as a discreet pad for a politician friend of his to meet a mistress. Turns out he had hidden cameras installed in the bedroom and sold the pictures to a tabloid.

He is a guy happy to betray his friends for money, make up ludicrous lies for money and make up ludicrous lies apparently purely for egotistical fantasy.

Even if he were telling the truth about the Trump incident (and I will happily bet money that he isn't,) Trump should never have produced him as a witness for the simple reason that everyone who knows who Gilberthorpe is will automatically assume he is lying. They will then conclude that Trump consciously recruited him because he is a notorious publicity hound and liar for money, specifically for the purpose of offering Gilberthorpe money to lie for Trump. That is certainly my conclusion. I will be amazed if Gilberthorpe was even on the plane.
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So to counter numerous women coming forward and accusing Trump of behavior he himself has stated he engages in, they come up with this guy? Perhaps the least credible witness on the face of the planet? Couldn't they have just gotten some janitor from one of Trump's buildings and paid him off? Jeebus Jumpin' Jehosaphat, just how incompetent are these people??
 
Stellafane said:
So to counter numerous women coming forward and accusing Trump of behavior he himself has stated he engages in, they come up with this guy? Perhaps the least credible witness on the face of the planet? Couldn't they have just gotten some janitor from one of Trump's buildings and paid him off? Jeebus Jumpin' Jehosaphat, just how incompetent are these people??
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Well....... :D
 
Tony Stark said:
Given everything that Donald has said and done, I think it is perfectly fair to call his supporters scum. I mean this is a guy who literally started his campaign by calling Mexicans rapists. That sort of crap is why his supporters worship him!

I confess that I never liked Republicans. But this whole election season has proven that I was right about them. Most of them are scumbags.
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For me, this election had exposed evangelicals for the hypocritical scum they are. The moralizing and judgemental family values crowd are the biggest supporters of this womanizing serial abuser.
 
Stellafane said:
So to counter numerous women coming forward and accusing Trump of behavior he himself has stated he engages in, they come up with this guy? Perhaps the least credible witness on the face of the planet? Couldn't they have just gotten some janitor from one of Trump's buildings and paid him off? Jeebus Jumpin' Jehosaphat, just how incompetent are these people??
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Yep.
 
nelsondogg said:
For me, this election had exposed evangelicals for the hypocritical scum they are. The moralizing and judgemental family values crowd are the biggest supporters of this womanizing serial abuser.
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To quote myself: Your average evangelical wouldn't recognize Jesus if he was sitting on their lap puffing an El Producto.
 
Trump is a moron. Not only does he keep the focus on the sexual assaults, he makes it worse for himself by suggesting they aren't attractive enough for his attention. I just saw pictures of 7 of 8 accusers. All of which look pretty damn attractive.

His references to appearance only alienates women. The man just keeps digging his own grave.
 
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