Split Thread Signs of the End Times

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Paul Bethke said:
In the past there were a few things that I did not take into account—now that I am aware of these critical events that I overlooked, it becomes clear why there was a delay.

The way a revelation works is that ALL details must be in place before anything can transpire. The END time scenario is a complexity of present day occurrences, which must be dealt with simultaneously.
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Which is to say that you're not taking responsibility for your failures.
 
Paul Bethke said:
In the past there were a few things that I did not take into account—now that I am aware of these critical events that I overlooked, it becomes clear why there was a delay.

The way a revelation works is that ALL details must be in place before anything can transpire. The END time scenario is a complexity of present day occurrences, which must be dealt with simultaneously.
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All we have to do then is ensure that at least one of these critical events does not happen and your god will be defeated.

Please list these critical events. You won't. You are unable to do so.
 
JayUtah said:
You avoided the question yet again. It's clear you have no answers, and the "just wait until my god wakes up" excuse is no longer valid.

You were asked questions about the dating of Noah's flood. Please answer. You were asked questions about year 5777 as the start of the end times. Please answer. All we ever get from you is song and dance, whereas in the same 2000 years secular humanity has become literate, invented the computer, gone to the Moon, split the atom, and discovered the building blocks of life. All without your long-running superstition.
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Actually, this is an interesting one to focus on.
Paul, since the New Testament was written humanity has proven we are BETTER than Jesus at nearly every 'miracle' he performed.
Curing a leper? We have eradicated whole strains of diseases and are on the verge of destroying more.
Raising the newly dead? Common practice in hospitals AND we've increased the lifespan of EVERYONE on the planet
Multiplying food? Franz Haber, for all his horrible faults, did invent the mechanism to multiply food on such a scale the population of earth exploded.
Walking on water? We've walked on the moon itself.
Not to mention all the many many discoveries we have made the bible (and all other religious books) is strangely silent on.
Morally we surpassed both books centuries ago as well. We abolished slavery, we gave women equal rights, we no longer beat our children, we no longer kill people for the sins of their fathers etc.


Is this why you are so obsessed by god coming to kill us all? Because you see that actually humanity is about to surpass your god on all fronts and expose your book for the fiction it is?
 
Paul Bethke said:
In the past there were a few things that I did not take into account—now that I am aware of these critical events that I overlooked, it becomes clear why there was a delay.

The way a revelation works is that ALL details must be in place before anything can transpire. The END time scenario is a complexity of present day occurrences, which must be dealt with simultaneously.
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I wasn't referring to your previous predictions (though you obviously were wrong about those too) but all the other things you are wrong about - the age of the earth, there having been a global flood within human history, etc etc. We already have indisputable evidence that you are wrong about virtually everything you have ever posted on this forum, yet you are asking us to wait for some indisputable evidence that your latest crackpot prediction is right, without any apparent awareness of how unrealistic a request that is.
 
Paul Bethke said:
In the past there were a few things that I did not take into account—now that I am aware of these critical events that I overlooked, it becomes clear why there was a delay.

The way a revelation works is that ALL details must be in place before anything can transpire. The END time scenario is a complexity of present day occurrences, which must be dealt with simultaneously.
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What a load of crap.

You are simply trying to convince yourself that you are correct and that you are not some sort of crazy person.
 
Crossbow said:
What a load of crap.



You are simply trying to convince yourself that you are correct and that you are not some sort of crazy person.
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I never blame myself when I'm not hitting. I just blame the bat and if it keeps up, I change bats. After all, if I know it isn't my fault that I'm not hitting, how can I get mad at myself? Yogi Berra
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Some people are simply incapable of accepting blame for their own failures, like missing the baseball or prophesying things that never come to be.
 
halleyscomet said:
Some people are simply incapable of accepting blame for their own failures, like missing the baseball or prophesying things that never come to be.
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Quite true!

People who have personal encounters with God are often rather weird. After all, once someone has a experience with something like supernatural being, then it can be quite impossible for us natural beings to speak against a supernatural being even when us natural beings are 100% correct.
 
Crossbow said:
What a load of crap.

You are simply trying to convince yourself that you are correct and that you are not some sort of crazy person.
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No I am not crazy—the revelation that is contained in the Scriptures give a detailed method of what must take place in sequence---once this is understood then the procedure to establish the Kingdom of God is implemented.
There is also the providential aspect that must be taken into account—for one the situation with Israel is of importance.

But then how could you understand such things?
 
Paul Bethke said:
No I am not crazy—the revelation that is contained in the Scriptures give a detailed method of what must take place in sequence---once this is understood then the procedure to establish the Kingdom of God is implemented.
There is also the providential aspect that must be taken into account—for one the situation with Israel is of importance.

But then how could you understand such things?
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I never did expect you to admit that you are crazy.

I was just pointing out to everyone that people who claim to have had some sort of personal encounter with God often act in a crazy fashion as a result of the encounter.

If you want to know how I know such things, it is widely known that those who have personal encounters with God often do crazy things in the name of that encounter such as 'blindings via e-mail', 'grass withering, the 'promise to show that there is God', and other such loads of crap.
 
Paul Bethke said:
No I am not crazy—the revelation that is contained in the Scriptures give a detailed method of what must take place in sequence--
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What detailed description did the scriptures give for your failed prediction that the grass would wilt at the World Cup? You have attempted to excuse your failed prophecy by claiming there was an element you had previously missed. Aside from that tacit admission that you are not as infallible as you claim, I want to know chapter-and-verse "the revelation that is contained in Scriptures" that you missed when failing to predict wilted grass.

Go.

There is also the providential aspect that must be taken into account—for one the situation with Israel is of importance.
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Right, the situation with Israel and it being Year 5777 on the Hebrew calendar. Your whole point in bringing up that tidbit of numerology was to claim various events with the end times would occur in that year. Then you backed away from it. What exactly is your latest interpretation regarding the significance, if any, of Year 5777?

But then how could you understand such things?
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Much better than you. Keep in mind that your incompetence with scripture is a matter of established fact, not mere suspicion.
 
Paul Bethke said:
No I am not crazy—the revelation that is contained in the Scriptures give a detailed method of what must take place in sequence---once this is understood then the procedure to establish the Kingdom of God is implemented.
There is also the providential aspect that must be taken into account—for one the situation with Israel is of importance.

But then how could you understand such things?
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Got anything besides more pretentious ********? You've been running the same few lines since you got back. Mix things up a bit. Your routine is getting boring again. How do you expect to keep our attention if you fail to entertain us? You've already chickened out of the 613 Mitzvot thread.

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JayUtah said:
Much better than you. Keep in mind that your incompetence with scripture is a matter of established fact, not mere suspicion.
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It is your incompetence in understanding prophecy---Yahweh reveals himself and his plans for the Kingdom through the Scriptures—it is for me to gain an understanding of this revelation through the Scriptures, taking into account the current affairs of the world.
So providentially there is a necessity to wait for events to unravel. Israel as I have stated is one of these events.
 
Paul Bethke said:
No I am not crazy—the revelation that is contained in the Scriptures give a detailed method of what must take place in sequence---once this is understood then the procedure to establish the Kingdom of God is implemented.
There is also the providential aspect that must be taken into account—for one the situation with Israel is of importance.

But then how could you understand such things?
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As you've seen here, most of us are better able to read and understand the Scriptures then you are.

That being said, lay out for us the sequence for the establishment of the Kingdom of God, cite Chapter and verse.
 
Paul Bethke said:
It is your incompetence in understanding prophecy---Yahweh reveals himself and his plans for the Kingdom through the Scriptures
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Says the guy who has proven again and again he's not familiar with the contents of scripture in any meaningful way...
 
Paul Bethke said:
It is your incompetence in understanding prophecy---Yahweh reveals himself and his plans for the Kingdom through the Scriptures—it is for me to gain an understanding of this revelation through the Scriptures, taking into account the current affairs of the world.
So providentially there is a necessity to wait for events to unravel. Israel as I have stated is one of these events.
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You have, however, demonstrated yourself to be incompetent to read your "scriptures"; being, as you are, dependent upon the interpretations of translations provided by others. Worse, you version-shop, cherry-picking among them to find what you hope supports your predetermined conclusions, rife as they are with misogyny, racism, and all sorts of other prejudices (prejudices it pleases you to consider condign).
 
Paul Bethke said:
It is your incompetence in understanding prophecy---Yahweh reveals himself and his plans for the Kingdom through the Scriptures—it is for me to gain an understanding of this revelation through the Scriptures, taking into account the current affairs of the world.
So providentially there is a necessity to wait for events to unravel. Israel as I have stated is one of these events.
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Simply being able to provide endless quotes from a fairy book does not make your ideas correct.
 
Slowvehicle said:
You have, however, demonstrated yourself to be incompetent to read your "scriptures"; being, as you are, dependent upon the interpretations of translations provided by others. Worse, you version-shop, cherry-picking among them to find what you hope supports your predetermined conclusions, rife as they are with misogyny, racism, and all sorts of other prejudices (prejudices it pleases you to consider condign).
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We are talking about a guy who claims Africans were dyed black by God as punishment for eating monkeys.
 
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