Trump runs for POTUS/ Trumped Up! Part VI

[CapelDodger]

I read this article in Cracked which, despite being on a humor site, is the clearest explanation for Trump support I have yet to read.

A very good piece, I think. The "county-level" red/blue map is particularly interesting.

 

[CapelDodger]

What a bloody circus.

That's what you get with universal suffrage.

 

[CapelDodger]

Meanwhile on the campaign trail

Trump rampages through Florida



Damn, even her lawyers! (Presidents do have that power, right?)

Now he's declared war on lawyers. Trump is sooooo done.

 

[Belz...]

That's what you get with universal suffrage.

Sadly, that's actually true.

 

[uke2se]

"They let you do it."

Did I get the quote right? I'm too lazy to look it up again.

As I said. Consent is apparently very puzzling to you.

 

[Crossbow]

In case anyone is interested, here is a good consolidation of all the public sexual molestation charges that have been made against Trump this far:

http://www.slate.com/blogs/xx_facto...ault_allegations_the_floodgates_are_open.html

The Floodgates Are Open on Trump Sexual Assault Allegations

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Now, new accusers are coming forward with accounts of Trump’s sexual misconduct, some saying they are infuriated by his denials. …

… Still others are making full-fledged allegations of sexual assault against Trump. Below is a list of the women who have so far accused Trump—if we’ve missed any, tell us in the comments.

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It seems more likely that more Trump stories are going to come out, and that these stories will continue to portray a man accustomed to abusing his power. “I was so upset that he thought I was so insignificant that he could do that,” Crooks told theNew York Times.

If and when new allegations come out, we will update this list.

 

[Stacko]

A very good piece, I think. The "county-level" red/blue map is particularly interesting.

That map is deliberately misleading when he's discussing 62% of the countries population living in cities. Look at the division by population density:

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[Darat]

"They let you do it."

Did I get the quote right? I'm too lazy to look it up again.

And if I held a knife to your throat would you accept my excuse of "He let me do it"?

 

[sunmaster14]

"They let you do it."

Did I get the quote right? I'm too lazy to look it up again.

For some reason I'm reminded of a quote from Life of Brian:

Mother: [Your father] was a Centurion in the Roman army.

Brian: You mean you were raped?

Mother: Well at first, yes...

For another reason, I suspect that joke wouldn't fly so well these days.

 

[CapelDodger]

"Donald Trump's campaign is "pulling out of Virginia,"...

How can they tell? (Following Dorothy Parker, when told that Coolidge was dead.)

 

[uke2se]

And if I held a knife to your throat would you accept my excuse of "He let me do it"?

You don't need a knife.

In my experience men are often getting convicted of sexual abuse for unwanted touching when all the girl did was to say "no". Sometimes not even that.

The basic point of consent is that you shouldn't assume that the object of your attention will welcome your hands upon him/her. In the case of a situation of dependency it's even more important to get proper consent.

Trump doesn't care about that. Women are there to be ogled and touched for his pleasure.

 

[marplots]

And if I held a knife to your throat would you accept my excuse of "He let me do it"?

No. That would not be the same. But what does that have to do with Trump? Are you saying being a rich celebrity is like holding a knife to someone's throat?

 

[Stacko]

Why didn't the writer of the twelve year old article in People Magazine mention the "incident" in her story. Because it did not happen!
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This logic would invalidate all of the Bill Clinton accusers Donald is basing his campaign around. Someone should also let him know that it's Hillary and not Bill Clinton he's running against.

 

[sunmaster14]

"Donald Trump's campaign is "pulling out of Virginia,"...

How can they tell? (Following Dorothy Parker, when told that Coolidge was dead.)

And Trump says that he never withdraws.

I wonder if he got consent before going into Virginia, in the first place. I assume you don't need consent to pull out.

 

[marplots]

Look, you don't even have to buy the idea that some women would be attracted to Trump because he's a rich celebrity. All you have to accept is that Trump thinks this is true. That's all that's needed to explain the remarks.

 

[CapelDodger]

The liberal left is mired in hypocrisy; on the one-hand, they've been saying that Trump is "all talk, no action," yet they keep bringing up these women he's sexually assaulted.

It's so unfair, isn't it? Trump tries to find common ground by agreeing he's all talk, and the left changes its story. There's no working with these people; it's just obstructionism for the sake of it.

 

[Bob001]

No. That would not be the same. But what does that have to do with Trump? Are you saying being a rich celebrity is like holding a knife to someone's throat?

Actually, coercion doesn't have to be physical. When someone is rich and powerful, he can control and intimidate without threatening violence. Cosby's accusers mostly didn't speak out at the time because he was an international celebrity and they were nobodies. Are young women -- in some cases teenagers -- supposed to sue or even file criminal complaints against a (purported) billionaire who is also notoriously litigious? As Trump himself said, "You can do anything." Money can be sharper than a kitchen knife.

 

[CapelDodger]

Here's a tough question: Would Trump require Secret Service protection if he is in a jail cell?
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No, don't answer. I'm 'jes funnin' ya.

I'm getting this picture of a prison with "TRUMP" in day-glo lettering down all the guard-towers.

 

[johnny karate]

Look, you don't even have to buy the idea that some women would be attracted to Trump because he's a rich celebrity. All you have to accept is that Trump thinks this is true. That's all that's needed to explain the remarks.

And if the remarks were all we had to determine Trump's behavior, then you'd have a point.

But we also numerous claims of Trump sexually assaulting women. Some describing exactly the kind of behavior to which Trump himself admitted.

 

[marplots]

Actually, coercion doesn't have to be physical. When someone is rich and powerful, he can control and intimidate without threatening violence. Cosby's accusers mostly didn't speak out at the time because he was an international celebrity and they were nobodies. Are young women -- in some cases teenagers -- supposed to sue or even file criminal complaints against a (purported) billionaire who is also notoriously litigious? As Trump himself said, "You can do anything." Money can be sharper than a kitchen knife.

There ought to be some way for the rich and powerful to tell the difference between consent and coercion, or maybe there isn't?