Split Thread Signs of the End Times

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Paul Bethke said:
So on the contrary?
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I can't prove that "green ideas don't sleep furiously". You can't prove a negative to the highest standard. But you can provide evidence for a positive. So start proving deities exist, like this Devil of yours, and then prove why your specific deity exists and no one of its alternatives, and then prove that we'll have to bow to your -so far- imaginary friend.
 
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Paul Bethke said:
So on the contrary?
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There is no "contrary." If you want rational people to believe your god exists, has said anything, has the power to enforce his sayings, and acknowledges you as his infallible messenger then you will have to supply evidence of that. So far you cannot without circularity.

You have an uphill battle, as we have already shown that even under the stipulation arguendo that the Bible is canon for the Christian tradition you lack correct factual knowledge of it. Insofar as your claims to this point are testable, you fail the test.
 
Craig4 said:
I don't believe you. This is all just something you cooked up because you have issues with women.
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Not so –this is not my idea, it is written, and I am under obligation to warn you.
If you do not repent, then into the lake you go!



Rev 20:13-15 The sea gave up the dead that were in it, and death and Hades gave up the dead that were in them, and each person was judged according to what he had done.
Then death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. The lake of fire is the second death.
If anyone's name was not found written in the Book of Life, he was thrown into the lake of fire.
 
Hokulele said:
Given that every single one of your other predictions were wrong, I am pretty safe assuming this one is wrong, too.
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This is not a prediction--it is a fact!
My predictions may as yet not have materialized--but the Scriptures are fact----

Mat_5:30 And if your right hand causes you to sin, cut it off and throw it away. It is better for you to lose one part of your body than for your whole body to go into hell.

This is what is written!
 
Paul Bethke said:
This is not a prediction--it is a fact!
My predictions may as yet not have materialized--but the Scriptures are fact----

Mat_5:30 And if your right hand causes you to sin, cut it off and throw it away. It is better for you to lose one part of your body than for your whole body to go into hell.

This is what is written!
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If this is a fact, as you say, then proving Hell exists will be trivially easy.
You quote Scripture saying "your whole body will go into hell". Taking this literally, a position I assume you will have no quibble with, this means that when you die, if you were an unrepentant sinner, you will physically go to hell.
So, then: find the grave of any sinner you care to name. Look for subsidence, or rent a ground-penetrating radar device for a day, and show us the empty grave. They should be all over the place. Easy-peasy.
I await the photos with anticipation.
 
Paul Bethke said:
This is not a prediction--it is a fact!
My predictions may as yet not have materialized--but the Scriptures are fact----

Mat_5:30 And if your right hand causes you to sin, cut it off and throw it away. It is better for you to lose one part of your body than for your whole body to go into hell.

This is what is written!
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There's a lot of tripe written down in that book that did not happen - why should we think that the dire predictions part of it has any more validity?

We know the creation myths are untrue. We know the Flood never happened.
We know there was no "Tower of Babel". We know the Exodus never happened, or the Conquest of Caanan. We know that at least one of the genealogies of Jesus is false, and we know that the Crucifiction would not have happened in the manner described.

With what we know, why should we accept the fantastical stories of a "hell"?
 
Paul Bethke said:
Not so –this is not my idea, it is written, and I am under obligation to warn you.
If you do not repent, then into the lake you go!
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Don't lie. You find pleasure in doing that. I bet your speciality is scaring little kids with your tales.

Paul Bethke said:
Rev 20:13-15 The sea gave up the dead that were in it, and death and Hades gave up the dead that were in them, and each person was judged according to what he had done.
Then death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. The lake of fire is the second death.
If anyone's name was not found written in the Book of Life, he was thrown into the lake of fire.
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And you didn't find anything suspicious in all that babble written by immoral folk under the influence of opiates?

How heathen of you :rolleyes:
 
Paul Bethke said:
Not so –this is not my idea, it is written, and I am under obligation to warn you.
If you do not repent, then into the lake you go!



Rev 20:13-15 The sea gave up the dead that were in it, and death and Hades gave up the dead that were in them, and each person was judged according to what he had done.
Then death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. The lake of fire is the second death.
If anyone's name was not found written in the Book of Life, he was thrown into the lake of fire.
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Hades is not part of the Jewish/Christian pantheon - Johnny is honouring/acknowledging the existence of other Gods! Quick, he must be punished!
 
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