Continuation Part 22: Amanda Knox/Raffaele Sollecito

[Welshman]

How would you know how the film portrays it or how Mignini appears as I doubt you've even seen the docu. Twice before I've asked if you've actually seen it and you've never answered. Would that be because you have seen it or because you know admitting you haven't seen it makes your statements even less credible?

Try reading the reviews. Mignini and Pisa are both highly criticized...and not for being honest and credible.

I am curious why Vixen and other members of TJMK go to such lengths to defend an odious scumbag like Mignini with a history of corruption and misconduct.

 

[Stacyhs]

It highlights Amanda's crassness that she began filming Mez from behind, and explains in her book that she was pretending to an on the spot reporter asking her, 'and what do you think of the chocolate festival?'.

Mez smiles politely, turns her head away in embarrassment, looks back and Amanda has the bad manners to STILL be filming her, right in her face. Mez was forced to put her hand over the lens. Wouldn't any normal person?

How bizarre that Amanda should delete it from her phone, but not before emailing a friend the video of Mez.

Intrusive, imposing and improper.

How would you know what it shows as you haven't seen it? All you have is some biased interpretation of it from one of your guilt sites intent on twisting it to meet their need. It's probably the same site that declared how honest and credible Mignini comes across.

 

[Stacyhs]

That's because gullible viewers were conned into believing the 'documentary' was made in good faith, that Mignini used 'Sherlock Holmesian hunches' and that Nick Pisa thought getting a headline 'was like having sex' (what is it with you guys?).

You may have noticed that none of the evidence was mentioned, apart from the bra-clasp and knife, which a hard-faced Vecchiotti proclaimed was contaminated. It was also claimed the pair were exonerated and headlines came up saying 'stunning flaws' and 'media'.

Did you really expect Nick Pisa was going to be anything other than an ambitious hack? And it's true, these guys want to see their stories on the front page. Half the stuff they write is edited, changed and cut by sub-editors. It may bear little resemblance to the original article. In addition, although the hack writes the article, they don't get to write the headlines, so to ascribe all those salacious headlines to Nick Pisa shows ignorance of how the tabloids work. As Pisa said, "That's not how it works.'

You are quite the expert on a film you haven't even seen. What next? A book review on a book you haven't read?

What evidence would that be? The unproved "woman's size 37" shoe? The bloody footprint on the bath mat, the "canoodling"? How about cartwheels? Or maybe the "I could kill for a pizza" quip? Or maybe "Amanda's bloody footprints" that tested negative for blood?

We knew what to expect from Pisa. He'd already revealed himself years ago. What was so surprising was his absolute pride in being such a POS.

 

[analemma]

It's a measure of how manipulative the film is, for Mignini was referring to an 'unknown' man 'would not have covered the victim with a blanket'.

The fact that Amanda and her fanboys had to put in the subtitles (Mignini does not speak English) 'only a woman would have put a blanket over the body,', shows how desperate they are to spin public opinion that they have to resort to fraud in order to portray Mignini as a sexist ****.

In fact, it is very shrewd of him to notice it as a sign of a staged scene.

How strange to taunt, 'you can't prove I did it!'

More lies from Vixen.
Vixen loves it when there are lies directed at Knox, but she cannot take it when the truth is directed against Pisa or Magnini or Poor, Poor Rudy.
I just Love This: and now the net is talking about Vixens mentors at TMJK and Ergon.

 

[analemma]

Yeah, who needs a law court? Let's just make a movie, pretending to be 'objective', and make up an exoneration and wrongful conviction.

But there WAS a Law Court: In fact the HIGHEST Court in Italy.
The Italian Supreme Court Exonerated Knox
You got Nothing left to stand on: You are just ridiculous: and it will be best of all when the entire ire of these newly educated tweeters discover the endless lies of the creepy psychos at TJMK and the other Truther Sites.
I JUST LOVE THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[analemma]

Actually that is an intelligent comment. Do you really think that Mignini is going to make a ridiculous comment that *only* a woman would ever do that?

This underlines the thrust of his reasoning, that whoever did it had some familairity with the victim as a person. Therefore, he reasoned, the body was covered by the same person who staged the burglary.

Forensic evidence proves that Rudy exited Mez' room, straight out of the front door. He went home, changed and went to a nightclub.

Therefore, the only remaining suspect would be one of the housemates, and Amanda was the only one around that weekend.

It is not so Mignini had a fixation on Amanda, for at that stage, Filomena was equally in the frame and was questioned closely.

Mignini had a fixation on Amanda because Mignini , as was shown by Netflix, is a creepy, Misogynistic, prude of an as*hole who thinks, by his own admission, that kisses equate to knife thrusts.
The Tweeters are going to say more about Sherlock Magnini and his nutty 'obviously staged' and 'only a women would' prejudices and religious hangups than they EVER said about knox.
I JUST LOVE THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[analemma]

You're living in Cloud Cuckoo Land if you think Nick Pisa was the person who convicted the pair.

Vixen reminds me of the Black Knight in Monty Python and the Holy Grail.....if we come back she will bite us.
I JUST LOVE THIS.............................

 

[analemma]

Vixen reminds me of the Black Knight in Monty Python and the Holy Grail.....if we come back she will bite us.
I JUST LOVE THIS.............................

"Hello. My name is Inigo Montoya. You killed my father. Prepare to die"
I JUST LOVE THIS.............................

 

[Stacyhs]

Actually that is an intelligent comment. Do you really think that Mignini is going to make a ridiculous comment that *only* a woman would ever do that?This underlines the thrust of his reasoning, that whoever did it had some familairity with the victim as a person. Therefore, he reasoned, the body was covered by the same person who staged the burglary.

Forensic evidence proves that Rudy exited Mez' room, straight out of the front door. He went home, changed and went to a nightclub.

Therefore, the only remaining suspect would be one of the housemates, and Amanda was the only one around that weekend.

It is not so Mignini had a fixation on Amanda, for at that stage, Filomena was equally in the frame and was questioned closely.

This is what he said:

“Why was the girl covered with a blanket? A woman who has killed tends to cover the body of female victims, a man would never think to do this."

Yes, not only do I think he would make such a ridiculous statement; he did.

If someone else "staged" the murder then where are their bloody shoe/footprints? And please, no mention of the "bloody footprints" that tested negative for blood. And no mention of Knox's DNA in Meredith's "blood" in Filomena's room that also tested negative for blood.

 

[LondonJohn]

It highlights Amanda's crassness that she began filming Mez from behind, and explains in her book that she was pretending to an on the spot reporter asking her, 'and what do you think of the chocolate festival?'.

Mez smiles politely, turns her head away in embarrassment, looks back and Amanda has the bad manners to STILL be filming her, right in her face. Mez was forced to put her hand over the lens. Wouldn't any normal person?

How bizarre that Amanda should delete it from her phone, but not before emailing a friend the video of Mez.

Intrusive, imposing and improper.

Total crap. Yours is a jaundiced and biased misinterpretation. For shame.

 

[Bill Williams]

Total crap. Yours is a jaundiced and biased misinterpretation. For shame.

It's also part of the extreme creepiness as one of the doc reviewers found when he ran across one of the pro-guilt sites.

Note Vixen's creepy use of the familiar "Mez" as if she were a friend or close family member.

 

[LondonJohn]

You're living in Cloud Cuckoo Land if you think Nick Pisa was the person who convicted the pair.

Once again, I urge - implore - you to read for comprehension.

Where did I ever say or imply that "Pisa was the person who convicted the pair"?? That, I'm afraid, was your rabidly biased misinterpretation of my post.

What I DID say was that Pisa was, and is, a narcissistic hack PoS who exploited the Kercher murder to make money for himself by writing deliberately lurid, salacious, provocative articles - almost all of which focussed on alleged character defects of Knox. He did so with the clear collusion of Mignini, who obviously used Pisa - and other credulous, desperate hacks of his ilk - to push his own agenda (which was to see Knox (and Sollecito) convicted and vilified, and to see himself lauded as an outstanding, Holmes-like sleuth of a prosecutor).

Once again, I'd very much appreciate it if you don't invent wholesale something from your own (lurid) imagination to put words into my mouth (or keyboard) when you attempt to reply to my posts. Thank you in advance

 

[LondonJohn]

What a malicious and disgraceful comment. It has no relevance whatever to this thread. It is a gratuitously nefarious and vindictive attack on a private individual who is not here to defend himself.

It reflects badly on you.

No, it reflects badly on him, the nasty piece of work.

 

[LondonJohn]

It's also part of the extreme creepiness as one of the doc reviewers found when he ran across one of the pro-guilt sites.

Note Vixen's creepy use of the familiar "Mez" as if she were a friend or close family member.

I know. That's all part of the weird and creepy "Mez" myth. Obviously most rational, sane people find that to be somewhat cult-like, bizarre and plain odd. But for many/most pro-guilt commentators, it seems curiously important for them to talk as if they were fond friends with Kercher - I am guessing it makes their True Believer "quest for justice" seem more real to them and their sad little lives........

 

[acbytesla]

Heh, so you'll be trading in the old model for a Melania facsimile. LOL.

Hardly, I wouldn't trade in the one I had for 31 years for anyone or anything. But alas I do have to start again. I only wish that everyone has a partner as kind, loving and sweet.

 

[LondonJohn]

Dr Gill and Judge Boninsegna are germane to the case and it is fair comment to criticise the quality of their professional input.

Using the forum to launch a hateful attack on another person just because they have a different view from you, designed to damage their reputation and livelihood and which has nothing to do with the topic on hand, is clearly different.

Would you say that Nick Pisa or Andrea Vogt, for example, are "germane" to the case?

Q.E.D. Emptor caveat.

 

[LondonJohn]

Fan boy, pipsqueak = conman conning seriously ill children.

Do you consider that proportionate?

The directors and producers of the Netflix film are pro-Amanda advocates, thus 'fanboys' is a fair uncontroversial comment. Judge Boninsegna decided to rewrite the Supreme Court's determination. As a minor official compared to a higher court judge, 'pipsqueak' is fair, uncontroversial comment.

Yeah but you see, if you are a conman conning seriously ill children, then its entirely fair comment to be referred to as a conman conning seriously ill children. Do you see how it works?

I wish "Ergon" wasn't a conman conning seriously ill children. But he is.

 

[acbytesla]

"Hello. My name is Inigo Montoya. You killed my father. Prepare to die"
I JUST LOVE THIS.............................

"Inconceivable"

 

[Vixen]

Once again, I urge - implore - you to read for comprehension.

Where did I ever say or imply that "Pisa was the person who convicted the pair"?? That, I'm afraid, was your rabidly biased misinterpretation of my post.

What I DID say was that Pisa was, and is, a narcissistic hack PoS who exploited the Kercher murder to make money for himself by writing deliberately lurid, salacious, provocative articles - almost all of which focussed on alleged character defects of Knox. He did so with the clear collusion of Mignini, who obviously used Pisa - and other credulous, desperate hacks of his ilk - to push his own agenda (which was to see Knox (and Sollecito) convicted and vilified, and to see himself lauded as an outstanding, Holmes-like sleuth of a prosecutor).

Once again, I'd very much appreciate it if you don't invent wholesale something from your own (lurid) imagination to put words into my mouth (or keyboard) when you attempt to reply to my posts. Thank you in advance

A bear ***** in the woods. Hold the headlines!

 

[LondonJohn]

This is what he said:

“Why was the girl covered with a blanket? A woman who has killed tends to cover the body of female victims, a man would never think to do this."

Yes, not only do I think he would make such a ridiculous statement; he did.

If someone else "staged" the murder then where are their bloody shoe/footprints? And please, no mention of the "bloody footprints" that tested negative for blood. And no mention of Knox's DNA in Meredith's "blood" in Filomena's room that also tested negative for blood.

Ah, but Mignini (mendaciously) claimed in his communique to oddball ballet-botherer Quennell that he'd ACTUALLY said something about knowing the victim or not, and that the nasty meanie biassed film makers had knowingly edited what he said to make it LOOK like he'd said a man would never cover the victim but a woman would.

And the credulous pro-guilt masses (including our favourite pro-guilt "commentator" here) gulped down Mignini's KoolAid, and took his self-serving lies as actual evidence that he truly had qualified his comment by talking about knowing the victim - if Mignini said it in his missive to Quennell, well he must be telling the truth! Only those nasty meanie film makers (and any/all pro-acquittal commentators or journalists) would lie to serve their own ends, after all.....

And lo, the film shows, perfectly clearly, that Mignini explicitly and unequivocally stated, to camera, that:

“Why was the girl covered with a blanket? A woman who has killed tends to cover the body of female victims, a man would never think to do this."

Nothing about "knowing the victim" there. I am working on the presumption that the translation is correct - after all, it would be incredibly easy for anyone with even passing knowledge of English and Italian to notice whether something referring to "knowing the victim" had been left out in the translation from Italian to English of that short statement. And obviously, not having seen the film myself, I cannot personally attest 100% to the veracity of the English translation. But on the reasonable basis that it would be a rather glaring (and immediately discoverable) deception if Mignini really had included something about "being known to the victim" within that statement and that had been missed out in the English translation, I'm going to go with the presumption that Mignini's words were accurately translated to English, and that he was lying when he subsequently claimed he'd said something different.