Trump runs for POTUS / Trumped Up! Part V

[sunmaster14]

Rumor has it the source of the tax returns leaks is Marla Maples who filed her taxes jointly with Donald.

That strikes me as an awfully convenient rumor for the New York Times, which arguably committed a crime by publishing illegally obtained personal tax information.

 

[uke2se]

Reality is biased against Republicans.

For example, the reality of the matter is that you people nominated an ignorant, stupid, mentally disordered scumbag to be President of the United States.

Don't forget a racist who flirts with white supremacists. If conservatism has gone to the left, the GOP isn't conservative.

 

[halleyscomet]

That strikes me as an awfully convenient rumor for the New York Times, which arguably committed a crime by publishing illegally obtained personal tax information.

Meh. They're a US newspaper. They'll publish the leaked information, win a Pulitzer and in a few years call for the persecution of their source.

 

[TofuFighter]

He reiterated it in May.

http://www.mediaite.com/online/trum...rla-maples-if-she-spoke-negatively-about-him/

I'm not seeing what you're seeing. This is just a May 2016 rehash of the 1999 story. What am I missing?

He's still trying to use "Big League" as a way to get out of the fact he made up a word "bigly"?

big, adjective, bigger, biggest.
bigly, adverb
http://www.dictionary.com/browse/bigly

 

[Tony Stark]

That strikes me as an awfully convenient rumor for the New York Times, which arguably committed a crime by publishing illegally obtained personal tax information.

As long as they didn't steal it themselves, the first amendment will cover them.

 

[uke2se]

It should be noted that there are studies indicating a liberal bias in the media. Those studies (could only find one, but I'll give sunmaster the benefit of the doubt) are from the mid 'noughts. I also found a study from 2014 indicating that there is no discernible bias in media.

Given the fact that there are studies pointing either way, I'd say it's very controversial to claim that there's a bias in news media in either direction. Evidence is thus needed.

 

[sunmaster14]

As long as they didn't steal it themselves, the first amendment will cover them.

Doubtful. They certainly have a colorable argument about the public's need to know given that the person in question is a major party nominee for President, but I don't actually think it would fly. A handful of pages from a 20 year old tax return, presented without any context, doesn't obviously advance the public good. And the privacy of personal tax information is considered almost sacrosanct in the US.

 

[halleyscomet]

Don't forget a racist who flirts with white supremacists. If conservatism has gone to the left, the GOP isn't conservative.

There's a subtle difference between "flirts wit" and "blows dog whistles constantly."

 

[Tony Stark]

Doubtful. They certainly have a colorable argument about the public's need to know given that the person in question is a major party nominee for President, but I don't actually think it would fly. A handful of pages from a 20 year old tax return, presented without any context, doesn't obviously advance the public good. And the privacy of personal tax information is considered almost sacrosanct in the US.

It in the public interest to know that a Presidental candidate whose only alleged qualification is his business genius lost a billion dollars in one year.

There is no way the NY Times is going to face criminal penalties. I guess Donald could sue them but he would lose and look like the giant baby he is.

 

[Foolmewunz]

As long as they didn't steal it themselves, the first amendment will cover them.

Actually, the executive editor has said he'd publish Trump's tax returns even if it mean jail. This is yet another open invitation for any whistle-blower. http://money.cnn.com/2016/09/12/media/ny-times-editor-jail-donald-trump-taxes/

 

[Tony Stark]

Actually, the executive editor has said he'd publish Trump's tax returns even if it mean jail. This is yet another open invitation for any whistle-blower. http://money.cnn.com/2016/09/12/media/ny-times-editor-jail-donald-trump-taxes/

I'm aware he said that but he's not going to jail.

 

[quadraginta]

Another hit piece from scumbag opportunists, well done!

How dare reporters go and talk to people who worked with your dear "leader" and find out what an unprofessional scumbag he is.

Is NBC, the AP or the interviewees the "scumbag opportunists" in your scenario?

In his scenario it would be anyone with the temerity to question the behavior of his scumbag Fearless Leader.


ETA:

Lol
Are you serious?
NBC has quite the track record of manufacturing news. Look it up.

Like I said.

 

[Crossbow]

That strikes me as an awfully convenient rumor for the New York Times, which arguably committed a crime by publishing illegally obtained personal tax information.

Good luck to anyone who is arguing such a thing in court about a public figure who is running for a national public office.

Essentially, as long as the newspaper did not do anything illegal in obtaining said documents, then they are covered by the 'free press' provision that is listed in the constitution.

 

[eeyore1954]

It in the public interest to know that a Presidental candidate lost a billion dollars in one year.

You could have read Forbes or any of many other publications back in the 90s to know that. Just so you understand what an NOL carryforward is I should point out that we don't know if he lost the money in one year or several years. For that matter we also don't know if he lost more and had already used some of it.

 

[NoahFence]

Good luck to anyone who is arguing such a thing in court about a public figure who is running for a national public office.

Essentially, as long as the newspaper did not do anything illegal in obtaining said documents, then they are covered by the 'free press' provision that is listed in the constitution.

Oh, that's the one that Trump really wants to get rid of. Make America Russia again!

 

[Tony Stark]

You could have read Forbes or any of many other publications back in the 90s to know that. Just so you understand what an NOL carryforward is I should point out that we don't know if he lost the money in one year or several years. For that matter we also don't know if he lost more and had already used some of it.

OK. Still perfectly relevant information for someone who claims he would be a good President based on how great at business he is. More recent ones would be even more relevant. But he won't release those because he is hiding something. I hope someone leaks them.

 

[Regnad Kcin]

He's still trying to use "Big League" as a way to get out of the fact he made up a word "bigly"?

Bigly Sniffleman, or BS for short.

 

[Dr. Keith]

And other normal men?

Know better than to sexually harass women. Especially those they work with.

Is this really such a hard concept? Is it so very very difficult for men you know to interact with attractive women as humans rather than as breast support systems?

 

[jhunter1163]

Good luck to anyone who is arguing such a thing in court about a public figure who is running for a national public office.

Essentially, as long as the newspaper did not do anything illegal in obtaining said documents, then they are covered by the 'free press' provision that is listed in the constitution.

The Pentagon Papers were published, and no one went to prison for that except Ellsberg.

ETA: He actually didn't go to prison; a mistrial was declared after the burglary at Ellsberg's shrink's office.

 

[Tony Stark]

Nvm