Why Trump ?

sunmaster14 said:
It is racist because there is no need to refer to them as white beyond the descriptor "white supremacist."
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In my case, it is distaste for them thinking skin color (in this case white) is important.

logger said:
Really, I haven't heard anything from white supremacists for years.
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That you ignore what you do not want to see is not our problem.

logger said:
The only racists who seem to be in the news are the BLM folks. Should we be calling them black pieces of ******
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I would call black supremacist "black piece of ****". That you equate "stop killing us" folks with black supremacists tells A LOT. I won't say anymore, since I don't want to run afoul of moderation again.

sunmaster14 said:
White supremacists are the biggest problem? Hardly. Even among fascist groups, they're like fleas on Muhammad's ass in comparison to Islamic supremacists.
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Other posters already addressed your delusions. White supremacism is significantly bigger threat for USA than islamic extremism. All suicide bombings and terroristic attacks in world can't do what insane fascist clown as POTUS lending ear to white supremacists can do.
 
Mumbles said:
Let's be honest, if Black Lives Matter were walking around talking about "white people are devils" like the NOI, even I would say "yep, those guys are clearly racists." Instead, they're discussing police running up and shooting black people without reason, and then not being prosecuted because the DA throws the case. Now, some of the people in this thread have openly celebrated this, but non-racists are against it.

But this thread is about Donald Trump, , Standard white supremacist lines.
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who insists that Mexico is sending rapists to the US
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Stupid thing for him to say, untrue in my opinion but I don't see it as racist. He didn't say Mexicans were rapists he claimed Mexico is sending their rapists here. Of course I know that must be because I am either racist or living in a bubble.

that calls Senator Warren "Pocahontas",
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This was a funny line and IMO deserved.

and who insists that black Americans have no jobs and no education.
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I don't think Trump has ever said blacks have no jobs and no education. That is different than saying unemployment is higher and graduation rates are lower in the inner cities among black Americans. Plus he is blaming the politicians for that not the people who are suffering because of it. Not racist or supremacist. A good white supremacist would have said the blacks are naturally too lazy to get jobs and too dumb to graduate high school. I do admit you will find people who support Trump who do say this. But what you are able to find on the internet is not necessarily the typical supporter. I know a lot of Trump supporters and that is not typical of them. I do occasionally hear a similar remark about laziness but that is addressed to welfare recipients in general not African Americans.


Instead, they're discussing police running up and shooting black people without reason
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I believe this is an extremely rare occurrence.Can you provide with me evidence to the contrary. I don't know if this is any more common than a policeman killing a white person for no reason. Maybe it is.


BTW I am not a Trump supporter but I am pretty sure I will vote for him over Clinton.
 
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acbytesla said:
And as horrible as that was and is, they still don't constitute the greatest threats to this nation. Those are from within.
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Even though that attack "only" killed 3,000 people, which admittedly is a small number for a country of 300,000,000, where 100 people per day die in traffic accidents, 100 commit suicide, and another 50 are murdered, that attack did enormous damage to the country. Regardless of the fact that I knew people personally who died (and there were probably 1 million more like me who did), it has profoundly affected my life for the worse. It damaged the economy, and it paved the way for a dramatic increase in the security and surveillance reach of the state. Furthermore, the security theater that goes along with that has resulted in major inconvenience every time I fly. I actually fly much less than I did before 9/11 specifically because of the hassle.

Now take the deleterious effects of 9/11 and multiply by 10, or even more, if a terrorist group manages to cause tens of thousands of deaths in a US city with a weapon of mass destruction. It is a huge risk. If a nuclear weapon goes off in a US city, this country will become a police state almost overnight.

It's extremely unlikely that the white supremacist movement in this country, as small and as ostracized as it is, could do anywhere near as much damage.
 
Mader Levap said:
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Other posters already addressed your delusions. White supremacism is significantly bigger threat for USA than islamic extremism. All suicide bombings and terroristic attacks in world can't do what insane fascist clown as POTUS lending ear to white supremacists can do.
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I love getting a lecture about the biggest threat to the US from a guy who lives in Poland. It's certainly an interesting perspective.
 
sunmaster14 said:
Even though that attack "only" killed 3,000 people, which admittedly is a small number for a country of 300,000,000, where 100 people per day die in traffic accidents, 100 commit suicide, and another 50 are murdered, that attack did enormous damage to the country. Regardless of the fact that I knew people personally who died (and there were probably 1 million more like me who did), it has profoundly affected my life for the worse. It damaged the economy, and it paved the way for a dramatic increase in the security and surveillance reach of the state. Furthermore, the security theater that goes along with that has resulted in major inconvenience every time I fly. I actually fly much less than I did before 9/11 specifically because of the hassle.

Now take the deleterious effects of 9/11 and multiply by 10, or even more, if a terrorist group manages to cause tens of thousands of deaths in a US city with a weapon of mass destruction. It is a huge risk. If a nuclear weapon goes off in a US city, this country will become a police state almost overnight.

It's extremely unlikely that the white supremacist movement in this country, as small and as ostracized as it is, could do anywhere near as much damage.
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All we have to fear is fear itself
 
Craig B said:
why is "commingling business and government" fascist? If obamacare is fascist,what do you think of the National Health Service introduced in the U.K in 1948? I suppose you think: "it's a pity the fascists won WW2, and the good guys lost", eh?
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Dude just look it up. I don't have time to explain the definition of fascism.
 
sunmaster14 said:
I love getting a lecture about the biggest threat to the US from a guy who lives in Poland. It's certainly an interesting perspective.
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Empty dismissal is empty. Most of world watch Trump's rise with dread.

sunmaster14 said:
If a nuclear weapon goes off in a US city, this country will become a police state almost overnight.
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Who do you think people will be more likely to elect due to such attack? (I will take aside discussion of how realistic it is, I rememeber last time when you gave nonsensical estimations) Who do you think will lead your "police state"?

sunmaster14 said:
It's extremely unlikely that the white supremacist movement in this country, as small and as ostracized as it is, could do anywhere near as much damage.
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Empty denial is empty. Terrorists alone can't make USA police state. It is not like ISIS can move to White House and issue edict that disbands democracy or something like that. Only people in USA can change its system. And guess who is likely to use that opportunity to get into power?
 
sunmaster14 said:
Even though that attack "only" killed 3,000 people, which admittedly is a small number for a country of 300,000,000, where 100 people per day die in traffic accidents, 100 commit suicide, and another 50 are murdered, that attack did enormous damage to the country. Regardless of the fact that I knew people personally who died (and there were probably 1 million more like me who did), it has profoundly affected my life for the worse. It damaged the economy, and it paved the way for a dramatic increase in the security and surveillance reach of the state. Furthermore, the security theater that goes along with that has resulted in major inconvenience every time I fly. I actually fly much less than I did before 9/11 specifically because of the hassle.

Now take the deleterious effects of 9/11 and multiply by 10, or even more, if a terrorist group manages to cause tens of thousands of deaths in a US city with a weapon of mass destruction. It is a huge risk. If a nuclear weapon goes off in a US city, this country will become a police state almost overnight.

It's extremely unlikely that the white supremacist movement in this country, as small and as ostracized as it is, could do anywhere near as much damage.
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So did I. I had clients that I called on a few times a week in those buildings. I had lunch twice in the Windows of the World restaurant.

While there is certainly a concern about Islamic terrorists that threaten countries around the globe the biggest threat has always been from within. Democracy is a much more frail thing than you seem willing to acknowledge. You take it for granted. I don't. Hitler was elected and in one easy swoop he turned it into a dictatorship. This has also happened in countless countries.

Listen to many of Donald's supporters. They want to burn it down. As if they can count on it being better in the next iteration. Trump and his supporters frighten me far more than Islamic terrorists and they can do far more damage than ISIS can if they command the most powerful military on the face of the earth.
 
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sunmaster14 said:
Well, fear is an inextricable part of human nature, and, unfortunately, our country comprises human beings, mostly.
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Of course. Sometimes Fear can be a healthy response to something scary.

But, some can use fear to further political goals and control people.
 
twinstead said:
Of course. Sometimes Fear can be a healthy response to something scary.

But, some can use fear to further political goals and control people.
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And holy crap is it working for Trump. His supporters are horrified that the US is falling apart, and it would be hilarious if it weren't so dangerous.
 
acbytesla said:
Apparently not because that's not fascism. That's socialism, an entirely different thing.
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Not necessarily, Obamacare doesn't take over healthcare like a socialistic scenario would dictate. It's not really even Facism, just closer to it.
 
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