Well, what did you expect, it's a Leaver argument. Those have a tendency to be wrong on just about everything.
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Well, what did you expect, it's a Leaver argument. Those have a tendency to be wrong on just about everything.
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In my case I find almost everything about the man objectionable; his political views, his "matey" persona, his rabble-rousing rhetoric, the list goes on.
His views have always been presented with a nod and a wink to the moth-breathing classes. Sure it'll be ability based (but we'll keep those darkies out) and it's not about stopping immigration, it's about controlling immigration (no more foreign accents in the high street)
Just because you're a senior military commander doesn't mean that you're not wrong. Look at all those generals who swore blind that there were WMDs in Iraq.
I'm not sure that anyone suggests that that is the only, or even a major reason why he is described in that way. Finding reasons to dislike Nigel Farage is a "target rich environment".
I agree with you 100%, as much as I dislike Nigel Farage, I wouldn't want any physical harm to come to him.
I would have been shocked, not least because the kinds of people who are opposed to Faraage and his ilk tend not to commit acts of violence like that - it's more of a "right-wing nutjob" move.
I think what would be more illuminating is what his supporters would have said as opposed to those of Jo Cox. Jo Cox's husband was passionate that there should be no retribution:
Brendan Cox said:
OTOH Farage supporters would have been roaming the street looking for darkies to beat up.
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Farage speaking in EU parliament. He is demanding that the European Parliament's lead negotiator on Brexit, Guy Verhofstadt is replaced by someone who is pro British and will give us a good deal. Unless we get it he thinks no deal is the best for us and we should go WTO rules as it will hurt Germany and France more than us. We are their biggest and most profitable customer for German cars and French wine, they heed us more than we need them.
He's still pushing the leavers romance.
He's still pushing the leavers romance.
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And you call them prejudiced ?
What about your own prejudice ?
Are you sure ?
Are you really sure ?
Aren't you aware of the amount of violence UKIP supporters have faced.
Members of the party have been assaulted.
UKIP Candidate Bobby Anwar was hospitalised.
Offices and even peoples homes have been attacked.
http://www.itv.com/news/central/201...ows-and-doors-and-cover-ukip-office-in-paint/
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-27405765
A lot of anti UKIP violence has been recorded and catalogued by http://nopenothope.blogspot.co.uk/
Nigel Farage has been on the receiving end of death threats.
http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/death-thre...nation-nigel-farage-say-ukip-insiders-1568891
Excrement was sent to them
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...e-party-is-sent-blood-and-faeces-9323590.html
"darkies" as you've called them are welcome members of their party and are routinely fielded as candidates.
The real fascists were the people who used violence and threats of death as a political tool against UK Independence Party members.
I'm amazed that you didn't know the threats and the violence towards them was going on.
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I'm not particularly surprised. If he were honest his career and well paying job would be over. He might even be forced into exile by an angry mob or two.
It's the usual "blame the EU for everything" that served the UK so well.
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Whoa, hang on a moment.
He quit the commodities brokering industry and closed down his own business to go into politics to get us out of the EU.
He is honest. You just don't like him.
I'm sure he was very successful and not on the verge of bankruptcy at all.
He is as honest as Earth is flat. You just adore him.
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Sections of the leave campaign (including David Davis - linked earlier) have been open about reducing immigration and deporting recent immigrants.
Yes, the rise in racially motivated attacks post-Brexit seems to show that a section of society have felt enabled by the Brexit vote.
OTOH someone whose wife was killed by a right wing nutjob made it clear that there was more that bound us together - the difference in attitudes is stark.
No, they are occasionally and exceptionally fielded as candidates. Token is not just a type of IBM Ring LAN
A handful of cases as compared to the 14 percent rise in racially motivated attacks
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He became an MEP in 1999, his company was wound up (by Craig Mackinlay MP for South Thanet) in 2002.
He is honest. You just hate him so much your vision is impaired by prejudice.
Yup, from the Daily Fail (of all places)...
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/a...ader-Nigel-Farages-golden-touch-let-down.html
Populist politician, former businessman - the two parameters that, if present, predict the business acumen of the person with utmost accuracy and precision.
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I suspect this is a typo, you must mean "hornet". You also missed the determiner, I recommend you use "a".
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Nothing to do with UKIP.
UKIP destroyed the BNP's electoral chances.
In 2010 the BNP got 564,331 votes.
In 2015 the BNP got 1,667 votes.
Any racially motivated attacks will come from former members of the BNP, not UKIP.
Alleging that the (constitutionally anti racist) UKIP to be a far right racist party, may make members and former members of the BNP think racism is now acceptable.
The UK Independence Party, from it's creation in the early 1990's has always had in it's constitution a commitment to anti racism and anti sectarianism.
The current constitutional statement reads thus:
http://www.ukip.org/the_constitution
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The DRPK, from it's creation in late 1940s, has always had in it's constitution a commitment to fight against oppression and support for personal freedoms.
https://www.constituteproject.org/constitution/Peoples_Republic_of_Korea_1998.pdf?lang=en
You do know how well that worked out, right?
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I note that Airfix has failed to address any of the point raised about the hopeless inaccuracy of the Leave campaign leaflet. Quelle surpise
I notice that you have failed to address any inaccuracies or outright lies of the remain campaign.
Che cosa fare una sorpresa
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This is mostly because you didn't point out any that weren't strawmen to begin with.
Did I say mostly? Obviously I meant exclusively.
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Only in the sense that pledging to support X loudly and legally does not mean you will as much as lift a finger to support X and could in fact work to achieve the complete and utter opposite of X, all the while you loudly and proudly claim to support X.
Since you mentioned it, UKIP is about as trustworthy as North Korea, but that's another story.
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Um, where do you imagine that half million plus went to?
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