Why Trump ?

Grizzly Bear said:
I read through all three pages of the thread. I saw only a select few posts that actually tried to be rational.

The majority of responses refer to Trump supporters as Islamophobes and racists. Hate to break it to people using the Islamophobe label, but have any of those posters paid attention to the news.... at all? Almost every single news worthy terrorist attack between the San Bernadino, and France attacks have been carried out by - quell surprise - Islamist radicals. In all cases it was either a sympathizer or an outright "soldier" of ISIS. Islamists associated al qaeda carried out one of the deadliest terrorist attacks on American Soil - 15 years ago today mind you - and these groups still want to carry out attacks. Pardon a portion of the electorate for not forgetting that. While I do not like painting broad strokes of people with one brush it's stupid to ignore the one common trait shared by the culprits of the vast majority of terrorist attacks. I got no problem with tolerance and acceptance, but people seem keen on using those also as an excuse to forget what lax security has resulted in.
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I want to understand your position better. What precisely do you mean by lax security? What is your description of strong security?
 
logger said:
But you do see many many Muslims who believe in sharia that support democrats. You do see many socialists and communist that support democrats. Point is both parties have objectionable people who support them.

Trump hasn't proposed anything that will help "white supremacy". He has supported closing the border which I'm sure they would love that, but Trumps reasons and mine are not their's. A country like ours cannot have open borders, security and economics won't allow it. That is not a racial view.
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Thanks for proving my point. One party is inclusive, and the other party is not. One party appeals to all Americans of all races, sexual preferences, sexes and religions and one party seeks to make people afraid of others that don't act, dress, look or speak like them.

It's an easy choice for those not afraid of their shadows.
 
acbytesla said:
Thanks for proving my point. One party is inclusive, and the other party is not. One party appeals to all Americans of all races, sexual preferences, sexes and religions and one party seeks to make people afraid of others that don't act, dress, look or speak like them.

It's an easy choice for those not afraid of their shadows.
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Republicans certainly aren't inclusive of sharia. I know your side supports it with open arms.

The Republican Party also doesn't support white supremacy, nothing in their platform or policies would show that.

It's an easy choice to be gutless, accepting people who terrorize women and gays is not who I want in my party.


Thanks for proving my point. ;)
 
logger said:
Republicans certainly aren't inclusive of sharia. I know your side supports it with open arms.

The Republican Party also doesn't support white supremacy, nothing in their platform or policies would show that.

It's an easy choice to be gutless, accepting people who terrorize women and gays is not who I want in my party.
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I am going to have to call a logic error on that post.

Sharia supporters supporting Democrats does not mean Democrats support Sharia law. In a similar fashion, white supremists supporting Republicans does not mean Republicans support white supremacy.
 
logger said:
Republicans certainly aren't inclusive of sharia. I know your side supports it with open arms.

The Republican Party also doesn't support white supremacy, nothing in their platform or policies would show that.

It's an easy choice to be gutless, accepting people who terrorize women and gays is not who I want in my party.


Thanks for proving my point. ;)
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This is not really a threat. It's fear mongering and racism.
 
Ladewig said:
I am going to have to call a logic error on that post.

Sharia supporters supporting Democrats does not mean Democrats support Sharia law. In a similar fashion, white supremists supporting Republicans does not mean Republicans support white supremacy.
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Agreed, which was my point. You could inform acbytesla.
 
Why Trump?

Skepticism, or lack thereof.

Because, with very few exceptions, Americans believe 110% that the sizzle is the steak. And Trump is all sizzle but no steak, nor even cheap hamburger mince, it turns out.
 
logger said:
Republicans certainly aren't inclusive of sharia. I know your side supports it with open arms.

The Republican Party also doesn't support white supremacy, nothing in their platform or policies would show that.

It's an easy choice to be gutless, accepting people who terrorize women and gays is not who I want in my party.
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Of course, the GOP is such a fine and upstanding party that it would never let a (former) KKK Wizard run under its banner.

Oops.

The GOP has been dog whisting the racists since the "southern strategy" of the 1960s. That's an indisputable fact.

On the other hand, you'll not be able to find a single Democrat candidate who supports sharia. And you'll not even be able to substantiate your claim that many American Muslims support sharia, with e.g. a Pew poll, because it's simply not true. Pointing to one person does not make many, and you haven't even given evidence that that one case is true.
 
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logger said:
What are you talking about? What are you now calling racism? :rolleyes:
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I'm saying that this false claim about Sharia is just another dog whistle. It's demagoguery, fear mongering and xenophobia. It's par for the course for some Republicans.
 
Norman Alexander said:
Why Trump?

Skepticism, or lack thereof.

Because, with very few exceptions, Americans believe 110% that the sizzle is the steak. And Trump is all sizzle but no steak, nor even cheap hamburger mince, it turns out.
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Trump Steaks went belly-up in 2014. :)
 
acbytesla said:
I'm saying that this false claim about Sharia is just another dog whistle. It's demagoguery, fear mongering and xenophobia. It's par for the course for some Republicans.
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I'm saying that this false claim about white supremacy is just another dog whistle. It's demagoguery, fear mongering and division 101. It's par for the course for most democrats. ;)
 
ddt said:
Of course, the GOP is such a fine and upstanding party that it would never let a (former) KKK Wizard run under its banner.
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You cannot be serious!!!!!
Do you even realize the dems actually did this in Robert KKK Byrd



The GOP has been dog whisting the racists since the "southern strategy" of the 1960s. That's an indisputable fact.
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And the dems have accepted them into their party.
On the other hand, you'll not be able to find a single Democrat candidate who supports sharia. And you'll not even be able to substantiate your claim that many American Muslims support sharia, with e.g. a Pew poll, because it's simply not true. Pointing to one person does not make many, and you haven't even given evidence that that one case is true.
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Hilarious
But they sure seem to attract them don't they.

Why don't liberals end this game of dividing the nation so they can win more votes. It is truly shameful.
 
logger said:
You cannot be serious!!!!!
Do you even realize the dems actually did this in Robert KKK Byrd

And the dems have accepted them into their party.
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Don't you think it's pathetic you have to come up with a politician who is (a) dead and (b) has recanted those views? You seem to also have missed the 60s, LBJ's Civil Rights Acts, and the subsequent exodus of the racists from the Democratic Party

logger said:
Hilarious
But they sure seem to attract them don't they.
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So, no evidence that many Muslims support sharia? No evidence even that the Orlando shooter's father does? All made up, I presume.
 
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