The Theory of Relativity will begin to fall apart in 2016/2017

[Reality Check]

Bjarne: Does not care that Dowdye is lying twice to him

I don't care, even if he had fall down from the moon

9 September 2016 Bjarne: Does not care that Dowdye is lying twice to him !
That graphic is some of Dowdye's many lies and delusions.

1. Gravitational lensing has been detected in "THE EMPTY VAUCCUM OF SPACE" e.g. millions of light years away from lensing galaxies!
2. The bending of light by the Sun has been detected out to 9 solar radii so that graphic lies about no bending at 2R, 3R and 4R.
3. "THE EMPTY VAUCCUM OF SPACE" is a delusion - space is full of plasma.
4. Astrophysicists look at the effects of plasma in space on gravitational lensing (it is negligible).

The idiocy of citing Edward Dowdye:

1. 3 August 2016 Bjarne: Cannot understand that a video from a deluded person is not valid science published in the scientific literature!
2. 4 August 2016 Bjarne: The biography of Dr. Edward Henry Dowdye, Jr. at his web site sceinceinthebible as given to you on 1 August 2016!
3. 4 August 2016 Bjarne: An overt lie of no bending for 2R and 3R in Edward Dowdye's YouTube video (detected out to 9R! )
4. 4 August 2016 Bjarne: An implied lie of "1.75 arcsec" at R in Edward Dowdye's YouTube video.
5. 4 August 2016 Bjarne: In 2012, Dowdye was ignorant of measurements of the deflection of the Sun published in 1973 and even the 1919 expedition results!
6. 6 September 2016 Bjarne: Repeats the link to a deluded, ignorant creationist who has a rival delusion to the RR/dark flow delusion!
7. 6 September 2016 Bjarne: The inability to recognize an deluded, relativity denying, creationist: Dr. Edward Dowdye Jr. Dowdye has a rival delusional theory that would say that Bjarne's RR/dark low delusion is wrong !
8. 6 September 2016 Bjarne: Edward Dowdye was never a astrophysicist at NASA - he was an electrical engineer according to him !

 

[Reality Check]

Bjarne: Does not understand what a NASA astrophysicist is

He did further studies in Astronomy and Astrophysics at Heidelberg.
http://wiki.naturalphilosophy.org/wiki/edward-henry-dowdye/

9 September 2016 Bjarne: Does not understand what a NASA astrophysicist is!
A NASA astrophysicist is a person who works on astrophysics and publishes papers on astrophysics at NASA.

I did "studies in Astronomy and Astrophysics" but I am a solid state physicist because that is what I worked on and published on !

 

[Reality Check]

Bjarne: Lies (quote mines) about his Edward Henry Dowdye source

IHe did further studies in Astronomy and Astrophysics at Heidelberg.
http://wiki.naturalphilosophy.org/wiki/edward-henry-dowdye/

9 September 2016 Bjarne: Lies (quote mines) about his Edward Henry Dowdye source which explicitly states his "research" is not connected to his work at NASA.
Natural Philosophy Wiki: Edward Henry Dowdye

The member is a Laser Optics Physicist and Electronics Engineer (retired) at NASA Goddard Space Flight Center in Greenbelt, Maryland. He is independent researcher in the area of pure classical electromagnetism and gravitation, not related to his occupation at NASA.

Retired is not working at NASA!
Laser Optics Physicist is not a astrophysicist.
Electronics Engineer is not a astrophysicist.

 

[Reality Check]

Bjarne: The idiocy of Dowdye publishing "science" at close to a crank web site

http://wiki.naturalphilosophy.org/wiki/edward-henry-dowdye/

9 September 2016 Bjarne: The idiocy of Dowdye publishing "science" at close to a crank web site.
This is the John Chappell Natural Philosophy Society which as we can see accepts deluded and ignorance papers without checking real world facts, i.e. no peer review.
As soon as we see a title of "Extinction Shift Principle: A Purely Classical Alternative to General and Special Relativity (2007)" we know that the paper is deluded since no purely classical physics can explain the evidence for SR and GR. But that list of Abstracts all point to one "paper" by other authors who e.g. stupidly calculate the fine structure constant from its formula and are amazed that they get its actual value !

 

[Darwin123]

And Bjarne could have thought of all of that?

Bjarne never thinks. He just KNOWS! :

 

[Reality Check]

Bjarne: A paranoiac fantasy that "glaring anomalies" are being hidden by GPS systems

This would mean if your theory is accurate, GPS systems are ALREADY dedicating computational power to compensate for glaring anomalies that are not investigated in specific details

9 September 2016 Bjarne: A paranoiac fantasy that "glaring anomalies" (i.e. caused by a RR/dark flow delusion) are being hidden by GPS systems.

 

[Reality Check]

Bjarne: Your "BW" does not invalidate evidence for the composition of the universe

According to the BW so called dark energy and dark flow make up 97% of the universe,

9 September 2016 Bjarne: Your "BW" does not invalidate scientific evidence for the composition of the universe.

What we have is 6 years of posts about the RR/dark flow delusion that are incoherent, intolerant about science, narrow and arrogant - you still do not know about dimensional analysis taught to school children and think that you write about SR and GR !.
The RR fantasy appearing on 15 October 2009 here, continued ignorance of high school level science and digging a pit of fantasies from Bjarne (167 items of ignorance, fantasy, delusion and lies in this thread alone!).

 

[Reality Check]

Bjarne: A "GPS have anomalies.." lie (no citations)

GPS have anomalies, ...

9 September 2016 Bjarne: A "GPS have anomalies, well known anomalies, and almost the whole world know about these" lie (no citations).
GPS does not have "anomalies" related to the subject of this thread , i.e. SR and GR.

There are known effects on GPS that affects their accuracy:

• Space Weather and GPS Systems
• Gravitational anomalies affects GPS function and modern instruments use maps of these to provide better heights above MSL

 

[fuelair]

We already knew math wasn't his strong suit. He brags about topping out at Kindergarten math.

I do not actually think he made it that far!

 

[fuelair]

Must have been a quantum occurrence

**** happens !!!!!

 

[MRC_Hans]

The system you write about is measuring where exactly are the satellites.
Computers are based on Measurement calculating how much to synchronize time dilation hour by hour.
That's all you need to keep the system working.

No. You also need to know exactly where each satellite is, at any moment. So how do you propose that is done if distance measurement (the ruler, you know) does not behave as predicted?

Hans

 

[halleyscomet]

I do not actually think he made it that far!

Now, now, be fair. He's done fine on counting, addition and subtraction. It was division and multiplication where he started having problems. He appears to be able to handle kindergarten math just fine.

 

[Bjarne]

It IS, however still a fact that we have observational evidence of gravitational lensing far beyond any plasma rim, just like the picture I showed you (which is just one of many).

Hans

Possible
What worry me is only, is it all according to the holy book, or have something here too, to be modified.

 

[Bjarne]

No. You also need to know exactly where each satellite is, at any moment. So how do you propose that is done if distance measurement (the ruler, you know) does not behave as predicted?

Hans

The system to measure where satellits are, is very complex as I understand and it happens both from the ground as well from satellits.

The deformation of the ruler is only important to very elliptical orbits.

 

[Bjarne]

Again if "measured orbits" aren't the "same as calculated according to theories." the system will not function as required. "?

Have you hear about the many time dilation synchronization every day

 

[Steve001]

Possible
What worry me is only, is it all according to the holy book,

This book?

 

[halleyscomet]

Have you hear about the many time dilation synchronization every day

That's not often enough.

If General Relativity had the flaws you claim then GPS satellites would be too far out of sync to be useful within a few minutes.

http://www.astronomy.ohio-state.edu/~pogge/Ast162/Unit5/gps.html

Each satellite carries with it an atomic clock that "ticks" with an accuracy of 1 nanosecond (1 billionth of a second). A GPS receiver in an airplane determines its current position and course by comparing the time signals it receives from a number of the GPS satellites (usually 6 to 12) and trilaterating on the known positions of each satellite[1]. The precision achieved is remarkable: even a simple hand-held GPS receiver can determine your absolute position on the surface of the Earth to within 5 to 10 meters in only a few seconds. A GPS receiver in a car can give accurate readings of position, speed, and course in real-time!

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To achieve this level of precision, the clock ticks from the GPS satellites must be known to an accuracy of 20-30 nanoseconds. However, because the satellites are constantly moving relative to observers on the Earth, effects predicted by the Special and General theories of Relativity must be taken into account to achieve the desired 20-30 nanosecond accuracy.

A daily synchronization without an accurate adjustment for relativity would mean consumer GPS devices would be accurate to a few yards shortly after the synchronization and get increasingly less accurate as the day wore on.

Because an observer on the ground sees the satellites in motion relative to them, Special Relativity predicts that we should see their clocks ticking more slowly (see the Special Relativity lecture). Special Relativity predicts that the on-board atomic clocks on the satellites should fall behind clocks on the ground by about 7 microseconds per day because of the slower ticking rate due to the time dilation effect of their relative motion.

A microsecond is a millionth of a second. A nanosecond is a billionth of a second. This means you need an accuracy of 0.02 to 0.03 microseconds. General Relativity predicts a difference of 7 microseconds per day. Even if your mythical, unproven "dark flow" only caused a variance of 1 or 2 microseconds for polar orbits, you're still talking about a MASSIVE difference between the predicted and observable time dilation that's well outside the system's tolerances.

You're proposing daily variances that massive on a system with needs that tight going unexamined in a global system upon which the military relies and is used by billions of consumers worldwide every day, and no consumers noticed. Not a single taxi driver, airline pilot, jet pilot, researcher, marine biologist with GPS tags on whales, Pokemon Go Player, hacker building GPS tags for his gear going to Burning Man, none of them noticed the GPS system telling them where they were to an accuracy of a few yards in the morning and a few miles in the evening?

Do you even have calculations to tell us how big the difference will be?

That doesn't even get into how differences between predicted and actual satellite positions would impact the accuracy of the GPS system.

The sheer scope of the problems that would have to go unnoticed for your system to work, even WITH frequent readjustments to is mind-boggling. The mere need for the constant adjustments would incur enough of a cost that anyone paying for the system is going to demand an explanation.

 

[MRC_Hans]

The system to measure where satellits are, is very complex as I understand and it happens both from the ground as well from satellits.

Yes, its quite complex. That is the reason we know it would detect if GR/SR predictions were not accurate.

The deformation of the ruler is only important to very elliptical orbits.

No, you claimed it would also affect high inclination orbits. Do try to keep your story straight.

Hans

 

[halleyscomet]

No, you claimed it would also affect high inclination orbits. Do try to keep your story straight.

Coherence in account requires coherence of ideas, of which we have seen no evidence in the claimant.

On a related note, Photobucket, which exits for hotlinking, is hosting this amusing comic that I find exceedingly relevant to the OP's claims in this thread:

 

[Daylightstar]

The system to measure where satellits are, is very complex as I understand and it happens both from the ground as well from satellits.

The deformation of the ruler is only important to very elliptical orbits.

What causes your 'ruler object' to be able to measure distance?